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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

FR

Does the ruling really mean that their testimony is blocked? It just means that they were not directly impacted by the sale of the gun. What relevant testimony could they even provide?

If they were allowed to be considered victims then any gun dealer could be considered a criminal (unless the special nature of these sales somehow creates a different class of crime).

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

all you do is target lefties, who is the troll?
snorts,
dishonest as it is
its your only talent

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Oh, I pay close attention to alot of the free world, we are supposedly in it.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

FR

Does the ruling really mean that their testimony is blocked? It just means that they were not directly impacted by the sale of the gun. What relevant testimony could they even provide?

If they were allowed to be considered victims then any gun dealer could be considered a criminal (unless the special nature of these sales somehow creates a different class of crime).

Possibly for the civil case? Monetary compensation. Think OJ trial.

Possibly so that they could give a statement at sentencing.

Those are my guesses.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Oh yeah... Don Seagullman

Everyone remembers THAT

Sure...

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I dont recall the Bush administration doing anything like this.

nothing this minor you mean.
http://donsiegelman.org/

Wait 'till this comes up in the election debates, it won't seem so..... "minor" then!
Hey, how's about plane tickets for al qeada? Barakolypse was at a dinner celebrating the holy month of Ramadam last night, I wonder if Reverand Wright was with him?

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Under the federal Crime Victims Rights Act, the Terry family would have the right to confer with prosecutors and speak at Avila's sentencing. Some speculate that the U.S. Attorney's Office may cut a deal with Avila in exchange for information to be used against his associates. That deal could mean little or no jail time, and a controversial sentencing day in the courtroom. Having the Terry family fight that deal, could further embarrass and complicate Burke's case.

Burke may also be trying to protect the federal government. The family may pursue a wrongful death claim against federal agents, including Burke himself.

"If the evidence shows Brian's death was proximately caused by the negligence of government, there may be a cause of action," said Paul Charlton, the family's attorney. Coffey says that puts Burke in a tough spot.

"The government's already been put on notice that they might be facing a wrongful death action by the family. And you have to wonder if the government's efforts to deny the family the status of 'crime victims' is part of a strategy to avoid legal responsibility for some of the tragic mistakes of Operation Fast and Furious," he said.

Burke refused comment when asked why he opposed the family’s motion and his possible conflict of interest.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/11/us-attorneys-office-rejects-family-slain-border-patrol-agent-as-crime-victims/#ixzz1Url9iPtb

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

all you do is target lefties, who is the troll?
snorts,
dishonest as it is
its your only talent

Nice arse.

Just some old fashioned Anglo Saxon speak, incase you are homesick.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


From the same article:

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Under the federal Crime Victims Rights Act, the Terry family would have the right to confer with prosecutors and speak at Avila's sentencing. Some speculate that the U.S. Attorney's Office may cut a deal with Avila in exchange for information to be used against his associates. That deal could mean little or no jail time, and a controversial sentencing day in the courtroom. Having the Terry family fight that deal, could further embarrass and complicate Burke's case.

Burke may also be trying to protect the federal government. The family may pursue a wrongful death claim against federal agents, including Burke himself.

"If the evidence shows Brian's death was proximately caused by the negligence of government, there may be a cause of action," said Paul Charlton, the family's attorney. Coffey says that puts Burke in a tough spot.

"The government's already been put on notice that they might be facing a wrongful death action by the family. And you have to wonder if the government's efforts to deny the family the status of 'crime victims' is part of a strategy to avoid legal responsibility for some of the tragic mistakes of Operation Fast and Furious," he said.

Burke refused comment when asked why he opposed the family’s motion and his possible conflict of interest.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/11/us-attorneys-office-rejects-family-slain-border-patrol-agent-as-crime-victims/#ixzz1Url9iPtb

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Who fucking cares ?

T^T

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


Oh yeah, I can see all the women home alone while their husbands are "down the pub" flicking furiously through the channels trying to find a political debate thousands of miles away!
Suuuuuuure.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


Oh yeah, I can see all the women home alone while their husbands are "down the pub" flicking furiously through the channels trying to find a political debate thousands of miles away!
Suuuuuuure.

Haven't you noticed, Popeye?  Our politics and internal affairs are a very popular soap opera overseas.  We're like Dallas.  They get to look in on our big houses, lavish lifestyles, economic freedom and social mobility, and just have hissy fits about it.  They get all personally invested in Bobby, and they hiss for J.R., and some even make dumb comments about who they support, and who they would never vote for, as if their opinion was even worth a half-pence in the final tally.