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lockedaway -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/17/2011 2:03:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You are to fucking stupid perhaps beyond your dishonesty (intellectual? you havent any) realize that Obama has proposed since february of his first year in office, budgets, deals, compromises, and so on regarding this, both to his (minority) and your majority.

And I am not going to go round and round about payroll taxes, because they should be raised on high incomes, and I have said it and said it, you need not worry at the KFC you wont be involved.

Let us not forget that since the days of reagan, every republican has put us deeper in the hole, and like a black hole at some point you cant crawl out, and thats what is destroying the country, and the republicans including you want to borrow and borrow and borrow, and put off your responsibilities onto future generations, thats destroying this country.

You have made the outright statement that by appeasing corporations, one can hold on to their job a little longer, but agreed that they are going away anyhow, no matter how much appeasement is granted by the country destroying republicans, instead of fixing the problem.

And your fucked up shit about payroll taxes...I dont give a glimmer of a fuck about this:


If I am retarded, why not address that I have been saying that payroll taxes should not, under any fucking circumstances be raised (and, yet, now Obama agrees) and I was on the wrong side of that issue? YOUR BOY agrees with me. Was I right all along or is he now retarded?

This of course is intellectually dishonest. Obama had to agree to NO payroll tax increase on top earners as a matter of getting a ceiling extension and some other actual cuts.

And he aint my boy. And you are on the wrong side of the issue, since we are coming to a place that severe and I mean draconian severe cuts must be made. And that still wont be enough. For many years everybody played and put off payment. The entire US is on welfare, borrow against future, and not standing on your own paying your way.

But you come out here dishonest from the get go, you aint a lawyer (it has been proven repeatedly), you are a sockpuppet. But you like to portray yourself as a successful internet millionaire and BMOC when in fact, all you do is prophesy doom and take absurd one sided unworkable and unreasoned simpleminded stances on complex issues, holding yourself out to be the ultimate authority based on this scantily clothed rabidity with the sole exception of the one thing you would show yourself in the best light at, which is to remain totally mute.

so....you come here at the outset in all manner of (very flimsy) deceit and then got the goddamn gall to call anyone but yourself a fucking total imbicile?

go over in the corner by your dish and lay down.


What a JOKE your post is.  That is right, fraud, O'scumbag now embraces no change in the payroll tax and I have been saying it for months before he reached the decision.  Notted-fraud!  That should be your nick!!! :) :) :)

Severe and draconian cuts will not be enough without tax reform.  I have been saying that right along too.  Glad you, at least to some degree, agree with me.

I portray myself as rich.  Wrong!  Find a post where I have claimed to be rich.  I have repeatedly said "I do alright".  Now prove otherwise.....LIAR.  FRAUD. 

I prophesize doom?  Look around, FRAUD!  Did you like the riots in Greece, Italy, London and now the flash mobs in Philadelphia?  If you were one of the store owners that got picked clean of your inventory would you agree that a certain amount of DOOM had befallen you? 

You are a lying, no good, dishonest....................you fill in the blank.

May the doom that, in your view, will not or did not happen, that you ignore so conveniently, appear at YOUR doorstep.





mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/17/2011 2:18:45 PM)

intellectual dishonesty at work, uck. Nowhere did I say you portray yourself as rich.

Flash riots in Philly are not cause and effect for payroll taxes holding the line.

Uck, try for once to say something intelligent, but again the best advice for you is remain mute, because you havent any.

you are only lying and pretending to yourself you anti-semite. Everybody else is onto it.




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 12:05:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

That's the funniest thing about this all.

We keep hearing about the "race card".

But no one but conservativies keep bringing up race.



I'm curious, was your lobotomy expensive?!!





Moonhead -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 4:39:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Can you name these puppet masters?
If the names you provide are the same financiers who were running the chimp, you'll need to explain why you find it so offensive that they're running the Kenyan as well, bear in mind: I doubt you're the sort of leftist who finds it offensive that the Kenyan's as far to the right as the chimp was, after all...


Members of the Bildenburg Group including, but not limited to, Barclay's Bank, the Rockefeller family, Morgan's, Goulds, Rothchilds, etc.  I think that the European Union is a concept that has existed for over 100 years as well as the North American Union.  There are families with MUCH more money than they country of their origin and that includes the U.S.  I think that every president since that creation of the Federal Reserve has been a puppet to that organization, at the very least.  I think, Moonbeam, that the world is controlled by banks...not people, not an electorate.


So yes: exactly the same people who were running the chimp.
Why was it okay for them to be running a Republican but not a Democrat?




DomYngBlk -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 4:53:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Crickets because... the "leadership" (ahem) is a Dem? [;)]

But if youre talking about House leadership, the Republicans have made many proposals and written and even passed several bills designed to get the government out of the way so that free market entrepreneurs can put people back to work

Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

8 months in and still waiting on something the republican leadership......crickets



Isn't a jobs creating bill.




samboct -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 5:33:13 AM)

ST

Given our current situation in the Middle East, I can see why Libya would be another nightmare- it's not like we've been able to really resolve much in Iraq or Afghanistan after how many years and billions?

In terms of the crisis we're facing- it's all the same thing, you just pointed out different sides of the same die. We can't do the simple Keynsian fix of having Uncle Sam going on a spending binge to jump start the economy, because Bush took an economy that was generating a surplus and ran up the debt with tax breaks and unfunded wars- and a massive military buildup which seems to go largely unnoticed. Why is the debt so big? See Ronnie and every Repub. pres. since him. What's the function of this? It hogties who ever comes into office to not be able to fix a bunch of the structural problems you mentioned- such as a housing crisis caused by Democratic idiocy in trying to guarantee an investment. The only guaranteed investment is a savings account, and that's because it doesn't pay as much as inflation in the long run- you can't guarantee something that will be inherently risky.

There's lots of D ideas that need fixing- the housing crunch was one. BTW, I do think that fraud in mortgages is illegal, it's just telling that basically nobody went to jail- I have no idea of how that one happened, other than it smells like Obama appeasement. Maybe at the end of the day, he's just terrified of being seen as an angry black man, and will do anything to avoid that? But the fortune we spend in payroll taxes on SS, Medicare, and Medicaid is a problem- although why the Rs continue to focus on welfare which was pared down drastically under Clinton is beyond me...It's not the elephant in the room...Tort reform would be very helpful which is a big chunk of the health care crisis.

The current paralysis in gov't is from the Repubs though- it's the my way or the highway approach. Democracies require give and take- you can't say that the most I'll pay for something is $10 without giving something to the other guy- unless you hold a gun to his head, which is what's been happening.

From my perspective-the R's are just throwing rocks at Obama because they wanted to be running the show- the last budget debate showed that even when they get 90% of what they want- it's not enough. And there certainly is plenty to fix that could be laid at the foot of the Ds. The problem is that the Rs don't want to fix anything, they just want to be in power- they have no plan to fix anything. The Ds have shown themselves incapable of standing up to R bullying. And you wonder why the man in the street is pissed off at both parties?

The best solution is for the R base to start telling their representatives that we need to get our gov't working again, and that does involve compromise for the good of everybody.


Sam






domiguy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 5:42:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You seem to forget it wasn't just a black rapper who spoke out against Bush.  But that's not the point.  Everyone, including entertainers, are entitled to their opinions.... until those opinions cross over into hate speech.



So what defines hate speech? Is it posting pictures of someone highlighting their supposed resemblance to the ape family? I'm just curious.

And hate speech is still an entitlement. Hate crime is one of the craziest notions I've ever seen as a good many people who are assaulted or killed were hated beforehand for some reason. It's like lining up mothers and saying, your child is worth more than hers.

If you want to increase the punishment across the board, I'll jump in your camp, but not when you essentially create protected classes.



you missed the point about hate crimes. which is not surprising since you obviously have no idea what led to Nixon's dismissal. A hate crime is usually based upon race/ sexual preference as the primary factor in the "hate."

Is gay bashing worse than two guys that have a beef with each other fighting it out in the street? I find the answer to be rather obvious, unfortunately it is lost upon you.




DomYngBlk -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 5:50:53 AM)

Not exactly the only point he can't grasp




Sanity -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 6:30:26 AM)


You are a moron.

There is no such thing as a jobs bill, as has been clearly explained many times on this board. The best the government can do is get out of the way and let businesses create jobs.

How did all that stimulus spending, all those lofty promises work out? It didnt.

If government spending helped the economy we would be in economic heaven right now because government spending is at an all time high.

Now try to get that through that thick meatball head of yours.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Crickets because... the "leadership" (ahem) is a Dem? [;)]

But if youre talking about House leadership, the Republicans have made many proposals and written and even passed several bills designed to get the government out of the way so that free market entrepreneurs can put people back to work

Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

8 months in and still waiting on something the republican leadership......crickets



Isn't a jobs creating bill.




mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 6:33:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
If government spending helped the economy we would be in economic heaven right now because government spending is at an all time high.

Now try to get that through that thick meatball head of yours.



And the spending bills are from the house, which is republican controlled, and we are borrowing the money we are spending, and this all time high of borrow and spend is due to republicans (and any spending they do is mostly on the wrong things)

So, republican borrow and spend isnt working, didnt work in reagans time or any other.......

Get that thru that thick meatball head of yours, dipshit.




rulemylife -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 6:34:25 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


You are a moron.

There is no such thing as a jobs bill, as has been clearly explained many times on this board. The best the government can do is get out of the way and let businesses create jobs.

How did all that stimulus spending, all those lofty promises work out? It didnt.

If government spending helped the economy we would be in economic heaven right now because government spending is at an all time high.

Now try to get that through that thick meatball head of yours.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Crickets because... the "leadership" (ahem) is a Dem? [;)]

But if youre talking about House leadership, the Republicans have made many proposals and written and even passed several bills designed to get the government out of the way so that free market entrepreneurs can put people back to work

Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

8 months in and still waiting on something the republican leadership......crickets



Isn't a jobs creating bill.



Speaking of morons, where are all those jobs the Bush tax cuts were supposed to create?




DomYngBlk -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 6:43:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


You are a moron.

There is no such thing as a jobs bill, as has been clearly explained many times on this board. The best the government can do is get out of the way and let businesses create jobs.

How did all that stimulus spending, all those lofty promises work out? It didnt.

If government spending helped the economy we would be in economic heaven right now because government spending is at an all time high.

Now try to get that through that thick meatball head of yours.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Crickets because... the "leadership" (ahem) is a Dem? [;)]

But if youre talking about House leadership, the Republicans have made many proposals and written and even passed several bills designed to get the government out of the way so that free market entrepreneurs can put people back to work

Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

8 months in and still waiting on something the republican leadership......crickets



Isn't a jobs creating bill.



There are plenty of stimulus bills that are percieved as "jobs" bills. As you pointed out yourself. However, boner and lil eric never portrayed  cut cap balance as jobs bills. They protrayed them as budget bills, no?




rulemylife -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 6:48:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

That's the funniest thing about this all.

We keep hearing about the "race card".

But no one but conservativies keep bringing up race.



I'm curious, was your lobotomy expensive?!!




I'm curious, are you able to have a normal discussion?




outhere69 -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 2:56:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lockedaway
quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead
Can you name these puppet masters?
If the names you provide are the same financiers who were running the chimp, you'll need to explain why you find it so offensive that they're running the Kenyan as well, bear in mind: I doubt you're the sort of leftist who finds it offensive that the Kenyan's as far to the right as the chimp was, after all...

Members of the Bildenburg Group including, but not limited to, Barclay's Bank, the Rockefeller family, Morgan's, Goulds, Rothchilds, etc.  I think that the European Union is a concept that has existed for over 100 years as well as the North American Union.  There are families with MUCH more money than they country of their origin and that includes the U.S.  I think that every president since that creation of the Federal Reserve has been a puppet to that organization, at the very least.  I think, Moonbeam, that the world is controlled by banks...not people, not an electorate.

Brilliant.  Now you spout conspiracies about the NAU, which have been repeatedly debunked here. 

Bush 43 cut taxes 3 times (even he was reluctant to cut them a third time but did so at Rove's urging to "stay on message") and had the weakest recovery since the '50s.  He gave away the surplus because as I've heard from Republicans at the state and federal level, it's "your money, not the government's money".  Then we go to war on credit for the first time ever.

This is from an MBA?




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 5:46:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

That's the funniest thing about this all.

We keep hearing about the "race card".

But no one but conservativies keep bringing up race.



I'm curious, was your lobotomy expensive?!!




I'm curious, are you able to have a normal discussion?



Yes, with a "normal" person. 





willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 8:43:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


You are a moron.

There is no such thing as a jobs bill, as has been clearly explained many times on this board. The best the government can do is get out of the way and let businesses create jobs.

How did all that stimulus spending, all those lofty promises work out? It didnt.

If government spending helped the economy we would be in economic heaven right now because government spending is at an all time high.

Now try to get that through that thick meatball head of yours.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Crickets because... the "leadership" (ahem) is a Dem? [;)]

But if youre talking about House leadership, the Republicans have made many proposals and written and even passed several bills designed to get the government out of the way so that free market entrepreneurs can put people back to work

Youre not really so ignorant that you have never heard of Cut, Cap & Balance (for example) are you?


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

8 months in and still waiting on something the republican leadership......crickets



Isn't a jobs creating bill.



Speaking of morons, where are all those jobs the Bush tax cuts were supposed to create?



You mean the jobs that contributed to increased income tax revenues from when they took hold in the economy unitl 2008?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 8:54:25 PM)

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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 9:04:06 PM)

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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama's Failed Administration (8/18/2011 9:10:25 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


You mean the jobs that contributed to increased income tax revenues from when they took hold in the economy unitl 2008?


Third times a charm? Here they are:



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