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Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 6:16:13 AM

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I put my sub into subspace recently for the first time. She became incapable of feeling pain except as a pleasant buzzy feeling. However, she was fully lucid and communicating.

Every other time I've put a sub into subspace, she became semi-incoherent. Is there a name for a lucid kind of subspace?

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 6:19:07 AM

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Not one I've ever experienced, but I want to try it!

I'd love to know what you did to make it happen...

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 6:32:23 AM

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To clarify - this is the first time I had put her there, but another Dom had done it to her previously.

MOS - I simply spanked her. Every other time I've spanked, I spanked her bottom AND the backs of her legs. She had commented that the pain from the legs brought her back sharply. This time, I simply avoided the legs and spanked her bottom.

I don't think it's what I did that kept her lucidity, as much as her response. IOW, it's her "brand" of subspace.

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 6:40:29 AM

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i've had that happen with spanking, once i got to the point of rubber-butt; it's not quite numb, but also not feeling things the same way, and it's kinda swelling and just feels rubbery. =p fun place to be. haha
i don't think there's a special name for it, though.

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 6:58:51 AM

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I have had this before. I processed pain differently. I'll explain:

1. I normally process pain like I meditate. If there is pain involved (and I usually meditate with nipple clamps on) then I take the pain, and channel the pain through my privates (or at least tell my brain I am). While I'm doing this I take deep breaths with my eyes closed, and try to focus beyond my eyelids. This, partnered with long deep breaths, usually brings me into lala land subspace.

2. I encountered the situation differently. I've only been able to do it once, and have failed to re-create it, but I'll be damned sure and keep trying. Instead of processing the pain, I kept telling myself I liked it. Even though it was hurting like hell (wooden paddles are a bitch), I kept telling myself MORE MORE MORE. I was basically yelling in my mind that I wanted more. Before too long, I somehow convinced myself that I was in fact enjoying it. In came an erection (which I NEVER get during beating play), and the next thing I knew I was begging to be hit more. I am not a pain pig by any stretch of the means, and yet I WANTED to be hit as much as possible, and was completely clear headed, and able to ask. I even asked for the bottoms of my feet to be caned (which since then I have not been able to withstand).

The only problem with scenario number 2: If I don't start into scenario number 1 relatively quickly in beatings I find that I cannot get there. If scenario number 2 fails for me, then I'm screwed and usually end up safe wording out of the beating, because I can't handle it. So, it's somewhat of a catch 22 for me, since now I try to reach that OMG GIVE ME PAIN status and somehow can't convince my brain to do it, but once that fails I can't get into normal headspace because my pain threshold is already surpassed.

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 7:53:07 AM

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I think this is common with spanking just the ass. After awhile the ass just becomes numb. It gets used to the feeling. If you continually do this the skin becomes what is usually termed "leather ass".

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 7:56:11 AM

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I have not experienced this before "leather ass". For me it just hurts more and more lol

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 7:59:20 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I put my sub into subspace recently for the first time. She became incapable of feeling pain except as a pleasant buzzy feeling. However, she was fully lucid and communicating.

Every other time I've put a sub into subspace, she became semi-incoherent. Is there a name for a lucid kind of subspace?

jeeeeez does there have to be a label for everything??

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 8:12:58 AM

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As far as I know, there aren't any specific terms to classify one kind of space from another. That isn't to say that one specific individual doesn't experience different kinds of space. It's just that folks haven't separated the different types to stick a label on them that describes one type from the other in such a way that it means anything significant to anyone more than the individual attempting to create the term.

It's not that unusual for some to experience different kinds of space depending on the activity or even changing certain elements to a specific type of play. Even as a top, I can tell you that I get two different kinds of euphoria from an impact play session than I would from a needle scene. It doesn't just have to be a difference in activities, either. Sometimes, it can just be dependent on the circumstances surrounding the scene itself.

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 8:13:28 AM

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quote:

jeeeeez does there have to be a label for everything??

How does this have any substance to the current discussion?

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 8:20:51 AM

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Dunno Steve.

The lucid kind rather than the slobbering vermiform kind?

I dunno I imagine that subspace is not a point but a line.......and some forms go deeper than others and more and more primal, and some are happy glows.......like the difference between a couple glasses of wine that redden your face and warm your soul on a cold blustery day, and the 20 drinks of brandy that will find you stiff as a pecker in the morning, blue and dead in a blizzard from going across the street to get mail..........

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 8:28:22 AM

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nice points, mnottertail. ^_^

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 8:59:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stoni23

quote:

jeeeeez does there have to be a label for everything??

How does this have any substance to the current discussion?

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Is there a name for a lucid kind of subspace?

One could just not wonder about the name/label...and just enjoy it ;)

@OP
My previous slave talked while being in subspace.
Mostly because I found her way to quiet and started to ask her things.
She looked like frozen..eyes wide open..but talking.

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 9:50:00 AM

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In my deepest journeys to subspace I wasn't able to do much beyond mumble affirmatives.

However, in my not so deep journeys I can still get the high feeling without being a vegetable, and speak somewhat clearly.

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 10:18:50 AM

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Yes, my partners are often very active and lucid in the scene. Rarely is there a lull in their participation that allows them to drift off into that dreamy semi-lucid endorphin enhanced sub-space. Quietly laying against a cross while getting a nice flogging can be trance educing. Torturing someone dangerously with choking, cutting, drowning, burning, shock and triggering their "fight or flight" . . . or gently commanding their interaction during a scene that is painful enough to release endorphins should keep them alert, even if the endorphins have them buzzing and pain free.
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ETA: About the name for it. I have been with a lot of masos and they just call it an endorphin rush not sub-space.

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 10:28:05 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I put my sub into subspace recently for the first time. She became incapable of feeling pain except as a pleasant buzzy feeling. However, she was fully lucid and communicating.

Every other time I've put a sub into subspace, she became semi-incoherent. Is there a name for a lucid kind of subspace?

There is no special label for this lucid state where the submissive is on an endorphin high and so is able to well tolerate pain, she has feelings of deep submission, she is unnaturally fluid in movement and she is still able to communicate well and also periodically take water or ice cubes as needed to hydrate. I and all the other Doms I've personally witnessed in action do accomplish this routinely and fairly soon after the hand spanking warmup session. We do not think this is the final objective but a necessary step in making our submissive fly, the state where she is only connected to reality by a thin thead focused on one person, us.

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 10:42:15 AM

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*sighs* I miss a good hand spanking lol

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 10:46:47 AM

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This sounds like me when I'm really getting beaten by somone who has a clue. And I'm talking a full body flogging and ass spanking. By gradually increasing the intensity, he can take me to the point that I'm a huge blob of mush, yet I am cognizant of the things going on around me. I don't care about what's going on, but I know exactly what's happening. I was once beaten for three hours, my first really serious attempt at taking one, and I felt like my mind was split off from my body. There was NO pain....none......and he was using a pretty evil strop at the end.....just the sensation of the impacts. I actually fell asleep by the time he had undone the restraints! The next day, I felt like I'd been...well, beaten, but during the time it was going on.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Anytime I get a sustained beating done right, I slip into the state of bliss and comfort.

Yeah......let's just call it total bliiiiiiisssssssssssssssssssssssss!

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 12:40:16 PM

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quote:

There was NO pain

quote:

I took a pain pill........why are you still here?

you have a solution now ;)

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RE: Is there a separate name for this kind of subspace? - 8/17/2011 9:04:37 PM

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quote:

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Is there a name for a lucid kind of subspace?

Yeah... "endorphin rush".

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