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angelikaJ -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:25:55 PM)

As being someone who does not fit your demographic (over 25, overweight, and attractive, [we do exist]) I think you are missing the boat.

3) You think I haven't tried that? They don't respond. Girls <30 on this site do not respond to PM's about 98% of the time. Regardless of how polite, nice, well-written, interesting, unique, personal, or how many photos you attach (I've done up to 10).

How many of these sent photos are you actually dressed in? Sending up 10 photos to someone you are sending a first cmail to is excessive. It will make you seem desperate, vain or even worse, creepy.

And polite, well written genuine initial cmails do work. But if you happen to not be what someone is looking for then it is a moot point. If the women are looking then they are responding to
Read the profile very well before you send the cmail. See if there are things in your profile that would exclude you as a match.
This line for example: "Besides, American wimmin have a well-deserved reputation for having the worst attitudes in the world."

And you have your own standards: attractive and not overweight. Why is your preference more valid than someone who prefers a non-caucasian partner?

I think your main issue in meeting women may be how you present yourself.

My Master, who found me here, had no pictures in his profile. And he didn't send me any either.
He is gorgeous.[:)]
He presented himself quite differently than you do, but I expect his age and related maturity level might have something to do with that.

Along with the fact that he may just be a very different type of dom than you are.

His profile has wit in it. And it made me smile when I read it.

Yours gave me an understanding as to why you aren't getting responses.
(Hint - that is not a good thing, unless you are willing to compromise your current approach.)

edit: clarity




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:29:32 PM)

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When you come across practically any semi-attractive sub female on this site, click on the profile and, if it's not an obvious fake, bam, there it is - black men only. Is this real life?


So are you saying I'm fake or just unattractive?








hausboy -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:31:10 PM)

You are seeking only: skinny, under 25 women who you deem attractive.  Those are the parameters of your search.  Yet you question how wrong it is that some women are actively seeking only black men. 

Did you actually state that liberal men from SWPL states are pussies? Or imply that gay and/or effeminate black men are as well?  And you have the audacity to accuse others of being close-minded.

If you've been around this site for any length of time, (which, incidentally, is NOT all about sex hookups)  you'd find that most women receive so many crap in their inbox that they often ignore more mail than respond.  Given the delightful impression you've already made, I can only imagine that most women are completely turned off by your personality.  And yes, 10 photos is remarkably excessive for making a first impression.

And while I'm here.... your final question: is this real life?

I'd say yes.  It does represent real life....such that in real life, life isn't fair....people often judge you strictly by appearances....and some people have preferences that limit their "dating pool" (and yours).  Fortunately the dating pool (and gene pool, thank god) is large enough that we can all just keep looking.








BitaTruble -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:31:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama


It's the explanation of their preference that is missing from their profiles, as if he is entitled to a reason.

I missed that so my bad. It does make me wonder if I should go ahead and explain why I don't like peas though.. what if pea eaters try to write to me! Ick!

Problem is though.. I really don't know why I don't like peas. I just don't. Ugh.. what a quandry! [8D]




dovie -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:36:31 PM)

"Over 25, overweight and attractive Black/Latino slave looking for White Master preferably with blue eyes. *My caramel cinnamon milkshake needs some milk![sm=shake.gif]


*bats eyelashes*
dovie

edited to add..Hope this helps the OP..  Rofl




OsideGirl -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:36:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ


I think your main issue in meeting women may be how you present yourself.
You mean misogynistic, shallow and self important?




OsideGirl -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:38:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

[sm=yourock.gif] BlkDaddysGirl... great first post! Welcome!

I second this!




sunshinemiss -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:42:31 PM)

ORIGINAL: Aderious

Did you try white men from different parts of the country?

YES

What about different countries altogether?

YES.  In fact, my friends called me the United Nations Ambassador of Love.  I think I'm pretty well qualified to talk here!

European men are nothing like white Americans.

I agree.

There is simply far too much diversity out there for me to believe that a young girl could be turned off by "all white men".

Again, WOMAN...  But hey I know what I like.  I don't know why that's hard to understand.


We DON'T all play from the same rulebook. What's likely happening is that these girls are encountering some white pussies in their local area and then making the fale assumption that all white men are the same.

Not my experience at all.  By the way, even I find your use of the word "pussies" to be insulting - both as a woman who loves my pussy and as a lover of men who are strong and capable.


An American girl who's never been with a Euro man has no idea what "all white men" are like. For example, what would a guy from Russia have in common with an American man raised in a liberal, progressive area? Absolutely nothing.

Why in hell would you think Russians are all white?  It's an incredibly diverse population!  Oh and of course being the intellectual you are, you realize that Russia is half in Asia and therefore the men are Asian.  Right?  You knew that though.


Incidentally, what were your actual complaints/dislikes about white men? What's in that book?

The book?  It's like this - dinner, movie, sex.  Dinner, movie, sex.  Dinner, movie, sex.  What does sex look like?  X>Y>Z... always the same way.  I did have a white boyfriend who I called my Pirate - he lived on a boat.  Great fun!  He was an exception.

They bored me.  Not all of course, but enough of them that I don't generally get involved with them. 




StrongSpirit -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:44:50 PM)

1. Poster is just wrong about women's desires. The three likely reasons are a. he is racist and vain b. he is actively seeking out women that are into race play, or c. he simply does not understand the sheer number of men on this site and the low odds of finding a women here. Most likely it is a combination of all three causing him to attribute all rejections as "they must be looking for black men because I am perfect."

2. Some of the people here yelling at him are just as prejudiced and silly as he is. sunshinemiss demonstrates stupidity as well as prejudice and silliness - though that may just be anger speaking.

3. Women of any age and of any weight have an easier time picking up men here then perfectly proportioned men. It's a numbers thing - at least here. You put 100 women in a room with 5,000 men and guess what happens? Most of the women date a lot, most of the men get nothing. It has NOTHING to do with dating skills, race, attractiveness, of the women. All those things go out the window for women, they just need to be here and willing to play.

To be successful here, a guy has to be dramatically different than 99% of the men here, or just be plain lucky. I know women that simply stop accepting emails after the first 100.






Caius -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:49:36 PM)

Well, you leave a lot to get a handle on there, what with the imagined personal slights, obvious latent self worth issues, borderline racism, massive (and from what I can tell, completely undeserved) sense of entitlement, hypocritical superficiality,  and just general lack of perspective.  But the one thing I keep coming back to is your apparent perception that these women (who are obviously nowhere near the majority you perceive them to be, not even statistically relevant to anyone who's not actively looking to be offended or for an excuse of some sort) owe you a defense of their desires and personality simply because they happen to be on the same social site as you are.  Or wait, did I miss something in the terms and conditions? Are all genuine, physically fit 18-25 women who define themselves as submissive required to answer any question any male "dominant" to the complete satisfaction of said man? Because holy shit, that would really be a game changer for this place.  But wait, that picture's not like a requirement to qualify as an ubermensch, right?  Because I for one wouldn't want to look like I'm pimping myself out on a meat market.  I mean, obviously, that is the most dominant pose a man can ever strike, but I just don't think it would be for me.  Oh well, I guess there's always trying to establish a correspondence based on mutual attraction...damn this world!




Lockit -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:50:25 PM)

LOL This just gets better and better! He is racist or something... but damn... women just have to be here and willing to play and men have it so much harder... because no effort is enough... they just have to be lucky!

To all the guys I've fucked before.. you lucky bastards... it was the effort.. but you were lucky too!

This is like.. all women have to do is lay there... the man does all the work! [:D]




DarkSteven -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:50:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

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And why is it that none of them bother to explain this preference in their profiles?
Why do you think they owe anybody an explanation? It's what they are looking for.



I still want a full explanation of why they don't favor 55 year old Jewish men living in Colorado.  And I expect the explanation to be typed in Arial font, double spaced, and to conclude with a written apology.

Seriously, dude, what's your problem?  Find some women who ARE compatible instead of whining about the ones who aren't.  And to answer your question, I HAVE found some women that want black men only (not just the 25 year olds - there's one in Boulder in her forties).  I've also found some who prefer Caucasians, some who like older, some who like younger.... you get the idea.




OsideGirl -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:54:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I still want a full explanation of why they don't favor 55 year old Jewish men living in Colorado.  And I expect the explanation to be typed in Arial font, double spaced, and to conclude with a written apology.

What size font?




Iamsemisweet -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:54:20 PM)


Maybe they don't like your profile, your picture, or your attitude, and they just don't want to talk to you.  That's their choice, you know.

Or maybe they aren't looking for sex partners.  Maybe that is just you, and your assumption.  It is possible they are looking for relationships instead.
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ORIGINAL: Aderious

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ORIGINAL: stoni23


3) You think I haven't tried that? They don't respond. Girls <30 on this site do not respond to PM's about 98% of the time. Regardless of how polite, nice, well-written, interesting, unique, personal, or how many photos you attach (I've done up to 10).





angelikaJ -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:55:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aderious

1) Give me a break. This is a site for finding sex partners. If you have the goods, you show them off. Especially in a profile photo, where the whole point is to draw attention to yourself and make someone click through to your profile. There are thousands of female profiles on this site with profile photos just like mine (a body shot). Do you think they're being vain as well?



This is where you are really misguided in your thinking: the majority of women do not like cock shots. Many women here upon seeing such will simply hide the profile from their view.
Women may have a full body shot, but that is because they know that many men are very visual and are okay with exploiting that.
You will attract a woman with your intellect and wit well before she will want to know what your willy looks like.

What draws a woman to a man's profile is how well his profile lets you know what kind of man he is, and is that kind of man attractive to you.

You want a woman who desires bimbofication. That is a specific type of woman, you have other wants that make the potential pool even more narrow.

The issue is going to be finding someone who is compatible with your wants... in the "real world", there are likely far fewer of that type than you imagine.




NuevaVida -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 5:59:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

This is where you are really misguided in your thinking: the majority of women do not like cock shots. Many women here upon seeing such will simply hide the profile from their view.
Women may have a full body shot, but that is because they know that many men are very visual and are okay with exploiting that.
You will attract a woman with your intellect and wit well before she will want to know what your willy looks like.



This. Some men don't yet realize that women are affected differently than they are.  Generalization here but men tend to be more visual (they like the girly sex pics) and women are less visual (they want their minds to be wowed and could give a damn about manly sex pics, in fact, can be turned off by them).

That, and we all have preferences.  Some men like blondes. They don't owe brunettes and redheads any explanation for this.  Nor do we ask for them.




hausboy -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 6:05:18 PM)

I'm telling you, Steven...

as soon as "short, bald and middle-aged" becomes the new "sexy," I'm gonna ride that train for all it's worth! 




hausboy -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 6:07:07 PM)

double-posted.  sorry folks.




Caius -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 6:08:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

This. Some men don't yet realize that women are affected differently than they are.  Generalization here but men tend to be more visual (they like the girly sex pics) and women are less visual (they want their minds to be wowed and could give a damn about manly sex pics, in fact, can be turned off by them).



Actually, quite a few cognitive studies have suggested that this is no mere generalization but closer to an outright inaccurate stereotype.  In fact, using the (admittedly imperfect) measures of brain scans, heart and respiration rate, temperature, and some other gauges of arousal that are a little more, ahem, direct, women have consistently been found to respond to pornography and other forms of visual stimuli at least as strongly as men -- if, admittedly in sometimes curiously different ways in terms of what they focus on.  Still, the overall variation in such clinical observations as have been made so far is that the greater variation is between individuals than it is between the sexes. 

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

That, and we all have preferences.  Some men like blondes. They don't owe brunettes and redheads any explanation for this.  Nor do we ask for them.



But this is obviously true.





NuevaVida -> RE: White Sub Girls for Black Men Only? (8/17/2011 6:13:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Caius

quote:

ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

This. Some men don't yet realize that women are affected differently than they are.  Generalization here but men tend to be more visual (they like the girly sex pics) and women are less visual (they want their minds to be wowed and could give a damn about manly sex pics, in fact, can be turned off by them).



Actually, quite a few cognitive studies have suggested that this is nothing more than a stereotype itself.  In fact, using the (admittedly imperfect) measures of brain scans, heart and respiration rate, temperature, and some other measures of arousal that are a little more, ahem, direct, women have consistently been found to respond to pornography and other forms of visual stimuli at least as strongly as men -- if, admittedly in sometimes curiously different ways in terms of what they focus on.  Still, the overall variation in such clinical observations as have been made so far is that the greater variation is between individuals than it is between the sexes.


Genuinely interested in links to those studies, if you have them.

I know I'm hardly affected at all by sex pictures of men and certainly not of cock shots.  Most of the women I know feel the same, and it's a sentiment often shared by many women on these boards.

All anecdotal of course.  We're not talking pornography here, which may be a visual sex act between two or more people. We're talking cock shots, ass shots, etc.  I'd recommend that's not a way to capture a woman's attention in the positive.


ETA:  Hmm...I'm Googling and finding articles on these studies - interesting, although they appear preliminary and they leave me with questions.  But interesting, none-the-less!




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