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Bearlee -> FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 4:15:59 PM)

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CreativeDominant

I find the relationships of Dommes to their submissives to be an entirely differing situation than that of the MaleDoms to their submissives. 


I recently noticed this quote in another thread and wondered about it.  How do the FemDom D/s relationships differ from those of the MaleDom D/s relationships? 

Or…do they?

As always my posts are directed to anybody who'd like to add to the discussion...




slaverosebeauty -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 4:30:05 PM)

Good question Bearlee.

I have noticed that Male tops use female bottoms for sexual pleasure and most of the time their relationship has an undertone of sexual domination and pleasure to it. Whereas, Female tops do NOT allow their male bottoms sexual release or pleasure. Mal ebottoms are denied sexual release where female bottoms are often made to orgasm until unconsciousness and beyond.

Female bottoms are typically more; sex slaves' and 'pleasure slaves' than their male counterparts who GIVE and rarely ever get their own release. Times like this I am sooooooo glad to be female. :o)




Azk -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 4:32:22 PM)

Yea, but absence makes the heart grow fonder :)




Bearlee -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 4:52:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Good question Bearlee.

I have noticed that Male tops use female bottoms for sexual pleasure and most of the time their relationship has an undertone of sexual domination and pleasure to it. Whereas, Female tops do NOT allow their male bottoms sexual release or pleasure. Male bottoms are denied sexual release where female bottoms are often made to orgasm until unconsciousness and beyond.

Female bottoms are typically more; sex slaves' and 'pleasure slaves' than their male counterparts who GIVE and rarely ever get their own release. Times like this I am sooooooo glad to be female. :o)


But, what about Queening and such behavior?  And...I know many male submissives who are generally expected to perform oral sex for their Mistresses.  And sometimes both enjoy cuckholding.  Often I hear of males being made to masturbate for their Dommes.  I've sure watched enough women torment males genitals (which they love).  I hear so many FemDoms here talking sweetly about their boys; surely some are in love and include sex in their romances with them?




slaverosebeauty -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 5:00:28 PM)

Male bottoms do not receive physical release unless its milking as in he other thread for the most part.

Like I said 'typically' I have heard and read and talked to a lot of male bottoms over the years and what I said is normal for those I have spoken with. Love is such a complex term that the way a female top shows it for her male bottom may be like night and day from a male top show shows love for his female bottom.

In my relationship, my partner and I mix vanilla with M/s because we have children around [2 under age 10, so far]; I am more of a pleasure and sex slave than a male bottom would be in the same situation.

Absence may make the heart grow fonder, so at this point I am beyond being 'fond' of my parnter, I am down right obessed. lololol




MsIncognito -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 5:22:38 PM)

This is a joke right? I know plenty of femdom/male sub relationships where there's plenty of give and take in the sexual arena and I know plenty of male doms who use orgasm denial with their female submissives as well.  I honestly don't think that what you believe to be typical is actually typical.

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Male bottoms do not receive physical release unless its milking as in he other thread for the most part.

Like I said 'typically' I have heard and read and talked to a lot of male bottoms over the years and what I said is normal for those I have spoken with. Love is such a complex term that the way a female top shows it for her male bottom may be like night and day from a male top show shows love for his female bottom.

In my relationship, my partner and I mix vanilla with M/s because we have children around [2 under age 10, so far]; I am more of a pleasure and sex slave than a male bottom would be in the same situation.

Absence may make the heart grow fonder, so at this point I am beyond being 'fond' of my parnter, I am down right obessed. lololol




Bearlee -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 5:33:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Male bottoms do not receive physical release unless its milking as in he other thread for the most part.


hmmmmmm  I'm really surprised...this is just NOT something I expected to hear.  While I am familiar with milking...I understand it's actually not used all that much.  It's so much easier just to have the boy masturbate if one deems 'release' necessary. 

I'm still hoping to hear from others about what might be the difference in D/s relationships where there is a Domme vs Dom as the dominant.




iliv2servher -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 5:50:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Male bottoms do not receive physical release unless its milking as in he other thread for the most part.



I would have to agree with MsIncognito. But whether or not the submissive or bottom is allowed sexual release is really up to the mistress or top; and there are plenty of times when sexual activity does occur between both parties.  It really depends upon the relationship and how the dominant partner feels at the time, but not necessarily typical behavior.
 
Prodommes typically do not have sexual contact with their clients because it is illegal in most or all states in the USA.  However, sexual denial is often practiced by professionals and non-professionals alike, and for the purpose of keeping a male in a heightened state of sexual arousal for extended periods of time.  The dominant can also decided to use chastity as a method of control and/or as punishment.
 
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Like I said 'typically' I have heard and read and talked to a lot of male bottoms over the years and what I said is normal for those I have spoken with. Love is such a complex term that the way a female top shows it for her male bottom may be like night and day from a male top show shows love for his female bottom.


 
Again, and IMO, not necessarily typical behavior.
 
-1liv2servHer
 




scratchingpost -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 7:11:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Good question Bearlee.

I have noticed that Male tops use female bottoms for sexual pleasure and most of the time their relationship has an undertone of sexual domination and pleasure to it. Whereas, Female tops do NOT allow their male bottoms sexual release or pleasure. Mal ebottoms are denied sexual release where female bottoms are often made to orgasm until unconsciousness and beyond.

Female bottoms are typically more; sex slaves' and 'pleasure slaves' than their male counterparts who GIVE and rarely ever get their own release. Times like this I am sooooooo glad to be female. :o)


HUGE smiles ( your humor always leaves Me smiling)....I am equally sadistic regarding orgasm control/denial and force to cum till they cannot stand to do so anymore...to My girls and My boy hehehe but Yes, for the most part I too, have noticed that trend.




xxmstrchasxx -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 8:24:06 PM)

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I know plenty of male doms who use orgasm denial with their female submissives as well.


I do that from time to time.  Bring her to the point of orgasm then not let her over and over, but it usually makes her have a much harder orgasm in the long run. 

Other times, I just let her go as much as she wants and then some.




HouseofBear -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 8:37:53 PM)

I do not believe that the generalization is true.  I think that each relationship differs, whether it is male dom led or fem dom led.




thetammyjo -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 9:03:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bearlee

quote:

CreativeDominant

I find the relationships of Dommes to their submissives to be an entirely differing situation than that of the MaleDoms to their submissives.


I recently noticed this quote in another thread and wondered about it. How do the FemDom D/s relationships differ from those of the MaleDom D/s relationships?

Or…do they?

As always my posts are directed to anybody who'd like to add to the discussion...


The closest way to how I do things and how things run around here that I've found is in a gay leatherman household. The biggest difference is the amount of sex -- its more focused on sex, at least for the master. But if I talk to both of them without the other present, I discover that the attitude toward sex is pretty much like ours. I just have more things I want to do by myself or with Fox or with Tom or with all three of us or with my friends, etc., than have sex.

This might be a gay versus straight differernce...

I think its more an individual difference frankly.

There are many male bottoms who want orgasm denial and other such things. I have no interest in that at all while the above gay household I mention routinely practices orgasm denial for months on end for the slaves. So it isn't a matter of the slave or submissive being male either.

It has to be an individual relationship difference.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 9:08:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito
This is a joke right? I know plenty of femdom/male sub relationships where there's plenty of give and take in the sexual arena and I know plenty of male doms who use orgasm denial with their female submissives as well.  I honestly don't think that what you believe to be typical is actually typical.
I know it isn't typical for me.  I love sex when in a relationship, and I hate orgasm denial;  some control of when, perhaps, not denial...  In fact for me, folks seeking chastity (more submissive men are interested in it than I am), are incompatible with moi, and I state as much.   M




amativedame -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 9:24:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Male bottoms do not receive physical release unless its milking as in he other thread for the most part.



For me...that's quite far from the truth.  On average, most of my guys will get release at least once every time they see me.  I may be on the higher side of the spectrum, but I don't think that I am part of a small percentage who think that way.




cloudboy -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/20/2006 9:29:21 PM)


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How do the FemDom D/s relationships differ from those of the MaleDom D/s relationships?


I challenge anyone to find the maledom equivalent of this profile:

http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/288251/rz/67150/details.htm





Bearlee -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/21/2006 5:58:31 AM)

Ugg...  surely that was meant as a joke.  It was a joke to me...




MoonGoddessIsis -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/21/2006 6:05:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsIncognito

This is a joke right? I know plenty of femdom/male sub relationships where there's plenty of give and take in the sexual arena and I know plenty of male doms who use orgasm denial with their female submissives as well.  I honestly don't think that what you believe to be typical is actually typical.

quote:

ORIGINAL: slaverosebeauty

Male bottoms do not receive physical release unless its milking as in he other thread for the most part.

Like I said 'typically' I have heard and read and talked to a lot of male bottoms over the years and what I said is normal for those I have spoken with. Love is such a complex term that the way a female top shows it for her male bottom may be like night and day from a male top show shows love for his female bottom.

In my relationship, my partner and I mix vanilla with M/s because we have children around [2 under age 10, so far]; I am more of a pleasure and sex slave than a male bottom would be in the same situation.

Absence may make the heart grow fonder, so at this point I am beyond being 'fond' of my parnter, I am down right obessed. lololol



I too am a bit confused with this and agree with MsIncognio.. Saying that release is only done this way is farthest from the truth.  As a Female Domme I allow My submissives release when I feel I want him to.  Of course I deny him at times, but I know several male Dominants that do so to these female counterparts. 

I do not just use My submissive for mudane tasks but for several different avenues in My life.  

This post confused Me a bit.

In love, light, and true Dominace,
Lady Moon




MHOO314 -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/21/2006 6:11:11 AM)

WHOA, we need to back up and rewind a tad--
 
quote:

I have noticed that Male tops use female bottoms for sexual pleasure and most of the time their relationship has an undertone of sexual domination and pleasure to it. Whereas, Female tops do NOT allow their male bottoms sexual release or pleasure. Mal ebottoms are denied sexual release where female bottoms are often made to orgasm until unconsciousness and beyond.

Female bottoms are typically more; sex slaves' and 'pleasure slaves' than their male counterparts who GIVE and rarely ever get their own release. Times like this I am sooooooo glad to be female. :o)



HUGE HUGE incorrect generalization--
 
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Male bottoms do not receive physical release unless its milking as in he other thread for the most part.


Ditto to the generalization
 
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This is a joke right? I know plenty of femdom/male sub relationships where there's plenty of give and take in the sexual arena and I know plenty of male doms who use orgasm denial with their female submissives as well.  I honestly don't think that what you believe to be typical is actually typical.


WHEW! Thank you for that fresh air--
 
Now if I may begin to offer My opinions--MaleDom relationships are more accepted because as meatcleaver said in another thread--they are closer to vanilla in many aspects (not making a generalization here--but it IS more typical for man  in todays society to be seen as in control). To see the dynamic of the relationship as oriented around sex, does neither any justice--so let's bring it to the HH&S level ( Head, heart and soul)--Dominance says: " I am in charge of the relationship---at the end of the day, you have agreed, I am in control"--submission says: "I allow you to control the relationship"--that is IMHEO gender neutral--One commands, one follows. The fact that I prefer to run My life and My household has at this point nothing to do with the the sexual manifestations of our relationship. The fact that My boy seeks to follow and not lead again has nothing to do with the sexual manifestation. We have agreed to a different Yin/Yang--and I am far from a ball busting bitch and he is far from a "doormat"---
 
Now address the sexual---we are all "wired" differently---which may or may not match the D/s orientation of the dynamic---I have never nor will I ever cuck My man---will I milk him? Yes as a means of humiliation and sexual control--why? because I can, because I am perverted and love that ability.  Will I deny him release? What? I am not nuts! I love him, I love what W/we have, I love sex with him--I LOVE taking it when I want and I love him asking---sure he performs oral--no different than Male Dom--sure there is queening, no different than rimming in Male Dom--(just a feminine term and we happen to have TWO places for the tongue)--
 
But one must separate the physical/sexual manifestations of the dynamic to understand it and realize that it manifests itself very differently across ALL BDSM relationships--please do not make generalizations--when that happens it is an injustice to both types of relationships---for I know many Male Dom relationships that exist NOT for the primary motivation of sex and I am going to bet there are more than a few female submissives who would take issue with the fact that they are "pleasure slaves only".
 




cloudboy -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/21/2006 6:16:50 AM)

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Ugg... surely that was meant as a joke. It was a joke to me...


I laughed too.




RavenMuse -> RE: FemDom vs MaleDom Relationships (5/21/2006 6:16:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MHOO314
for I know many Male Dom relationships that exist NOT for the primary motivation of sex


*Grins*

From a certain Dom's profile:
"Nor am I looking for someone who only thinks of it in terms of BDSM and sex. That is part of the relationship but not the core of it."

Yep *Points at MH* What she said! [:)]




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