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Owner59 -> Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/24/2011 11:02:16 PM)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/new-hampshire-republicans_n_935689.html


The chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party, Tea Party leader Jack Kimball, will be notified Thursday that members of the party's executive committee will vote on whether to remove him at a Sept. 1 meeting, sources in the state told The Huffington Post.

Two sources said at least 20 of the 36 committee members support removing Kimball. Only 19 are needed to do so. If Kimball is voted out, longtime vice chairman Wayne McDonald would take over the chairman's spot.

Kimball called the meeting himself in response to growing controversy over his seven-month-old chairmanship that has spilled into the national spotlight this week, following accusations by Kimball that national and state Republicans are withholding money from the state party to force him to step down.

DeLemus also told HuffPost that many Tea Party activists will leave the Republican party if Kimball is ousted, though he downplayed any talk of forming a third party.

Since then, however, his performance has drawn little praise even from his staunchest supporters. He has been a lackluster fundraiser, he has not built relationships with either Republican officials and activists or with the press, and he has not been an aggressive or loud voice speaking out against Democrats. Instead, he has drawn media attention by making several gaffes -- the most recent being his signature of a petition to allow the Libertarian party on the ballot in the general election.

Besides the fact that a Libertarian candidate would siphon votes away from a Republican presidential candidate in 2012, Granite State Republicans believe that Kimball has violated the party's bylaws by signing the petition.

In addition to all this, the Republicans have also lost two special elections for state legislature seats, prompting more criticism of Kimball and also raising questions about the actual influence of Tea Party groups.

In response to all this, Kimball and his supporters have resorted to accusations of bribery by national Republicans. Kimball told the Manchester Union-Leader that O'Brien told him the Republican Governors Association was withholding $100,000 from the state party on the condition that he resign from the chairmanship. It was an allegation first aired on a Tea Party-affiliated blog. The RGA has denied this. O'Brien is not commenting on the matter.

But early Wednesday morning, an anonymous e-mail was sent to reporters that claimed to be from a new Tea Party group, the Granite State TEA Party. It attacked Sununu for opposing Kimball last winter, and said the chairman " has been operating with one hand tied behind his back" because of the lack of support from others in the party.

The email described the $100,000 that was supposedly being withheld as "blood money" and said that "an all out civil war is brewing in New Hampshire between 'establishment' and TEA Party Republicans."





FirstQuaker -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/24/2011 11:30:16 PM)

As Napoleon once noted, you likely don't want to interfere with your enemies when they are doing your work for you.

In the case of the Tea Party, it appears they have shot their bolt, and unless some remarkable things happen in the US congress, during the next year they will appear as a new improved party of 'no' for the 2012 election.

Even now their sun is waning -
Poll Shows Negative View of Tea Party on the Rise
Unless they show the voting public some Tea Party instrumented results rather quickly, they can likely lose much of the independent vote during the next election. And the reports indicate the debt fight cost them -

quote:

In the most recent poll, most Americans took a negative view of the debt-ceiling negotiations, seeing them as “mostly about gaining political advantage.” With Republicans in charge of the House, more of the blame fell on them. And many people — a 43 percent plurality — saw the Tea Party as having too much influence on Republicans. Perhaps not surprisingly, Democrats were most likely to have an unfavorable view of the Tea Party. But a plurality of independents, too — 40 percent — viewed the Tea Party negatively, and said it had too much influence on the Republican Party.


But we will see next year, at about this time.





farglebargle -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 4:57:13 AM)

Yeah, it's pretty clear ( at least in New York ) that a tea-party candidate means a lost election.

( See also: NY-23, where the teabaggers lost the republicans a seat they've held since the civil war... )




DarkSteven -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 5:58:19 AM)

I'm not sure what he stands to gain by not resigning at this point.




pahunkboy -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 7:01:41 AM)

Dude-  he is a RON PAUL supporter-  the 100k is a PERRY stunt.  




EternalHoH -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 7:20:37 AM)

Regardless of that, his performance seems pretty lame.






Moonhead -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 7:27:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59
Besides the fact that a Libertarian candidate would siphon votes away from a Republican presidential candidate in 2012

I know that the Republicans like to claim that they're in favour of small government while increasing government powers and handing out tax revenues to their lobbyists, but I'm always puzzled that there's actually people who describe themselves as libertarians who are stupid enough to fall for that one.




popeye1250 -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 7:47:27 AM)

Wow, you'd think "the Teas" numbered 100 million!
I just got back from N.H., Mass, and Maine yesterday and they fucking HATE Obama up there!
He's all done, stick a fork in him.




mnottertail -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 7:47:30 AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNoouLa7uxA&ob=av2e




popeye1250 -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 11:49:05 AM)

"And they fell in love with an image."




DomYngBlk -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 11:53:50 AM)

Not talking about obama old man. Talking about your New Hampshire Republican party that seems to be coming uglued. Fucking glad you are back to put the pieces back together..lol




mnottertail -> RE: Teas and Cons battle each other in New Hampshire (8/25/2011 11:55:12 AM)

Well, you see they fell in love with an image up there, those republicans, unfortunately for them, nobody else has.




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