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Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 12:38:15 PM   
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Monday night, at a “town hall” meeting in North Avondale featuring U.S. Rep. Steve Chabot, video cameras owned by two Democratic activists were seized by a Cincinnati police officer at the direction of Chabot’s staff.

A Chabot spokesman said the had the cameras seized “to protect the privacy of constituents” at the event, although there were at least two media outlets at the North Avondale Recreation Center filming the meeting.

Tim Burke, the chairman of the Hamilton County Democratic Party, has written a letter to Cincinnati City Solicitor John Curp asking for an explanation of “the legal basis for the seizure and the enforcement by Cincinnati police of rules created by the Congressman.”
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/politics/2011/08/24/democrats-cameras-seized-by-police-at-chabot-town-hall-meeting/

also a lead on....
The controversy has yielded a rare moment of agreement between progressives and Tea Party activists. Odom sharply criticized Chabot in an email to supporters on Thursday, writing, "Just when you think you've seen it all... a story breaks about a Republican Congressman (or his staff) instructing police to confiscate cameras from constituents in the audience of a townhall event! Yep, you read that right, at a public townhall event, in a public venue (high school gym), hosted by a public official and coordinated by public staffers, personal/private cameras and cell phones are now being forcefully removed to keep video footage from hitting YouTube
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/25/steve-chabot-tea-party-cameras-town-halls_n_936465.html

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 1:08:33 PM   
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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 1:59:02 PM   
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Protect the privacy of consittuents My ass. He just didn't want people saying later "You're lying like a rug and I can prove it" with video evidence.

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 2:02:18 PM   
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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 2:06:44 PM   
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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 3:13:38 PM   
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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 3:34:36 PM   
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quote:

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Pretty disgusting abuse of power no matter which party he belongs to.

Protect the privacy of consittuents My ass. He just didn't want people saying later "You're lying like a rug and I can prove it" with video evidence.

^^ This.

Well said.

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 5:23:50 PM   
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quote:

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Pretty disgusting abuse of power no matter which party he belongs to.

Protect the privacy of consittuents My ass. He just didn't want people saying later "You're lying like a rug and I can prove it" with video evidence.


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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 8:49:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Pretty disgusting abuse of power no matter which party he belongs to.

Protect the privacy of consittuents My ass. He just didn't want people saying later "You're lying like a rug and I can prove it" with video evidence.



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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 10:56:39 PM   
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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/25/2011 11:24:08 PM   
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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 4:49:27 AM   
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I lived in Cincinnati for a few years. Not surprising this type of thing would happen in a town that had Jerry springer for a mayor and tried to ban Robert Mapplethorpe. That town is shockingly conservative and goddamn proud of it. They aren't afraid to stifle someone's freedom of speech in there either.
Apologies to all Reds' fans for my rant here.

I think you miss the point, sweet.

It isn't about "conservative" Cincinnati, it's about a particular politician.

During the townhall meetings that many Democratic congressional members had over the health care debate, they did the same thing.

Attributing it primarily to "conservative" or "liberal" principles misses the mark.

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 5:24:52 AM   
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I dont believe anyone actually confiscated cameras from the opposition only.......at least not inthe last five years, altho there was that case of locking one in a closet, and I was the one that started the topic.
Edited to addd, I DO remember people like sharon angle and jan brewer, christine o donnell refusing to let the press in... so Im sure there were dems too, but confiscating from dems(or pubs only) ?

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 6:27:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I never heard of anyone confiscating cameras at a health care town hall meeting. Where and which dem? Because there was an endless stream of utube videos about town hall meetings.

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

I lived in Cincinnati for a few years. Not surprising this type of thing would happen in a town that had Jerry springer for a mayor and tried to ban Robert Mapplethorpe. That town is shockingly conservative and goddamn proud of it. They aren't afraid to stifle someone's freedom of speech in there either.
Apologies to all Reds' fans for my rant here.

I think you miss the point, sweet.

It isn't about "conservative" Cincinnati, it's about a particular politician.

During the townhall meetings that many Democratic congressional members had over the health care debate, they did the same thing.

Attributing it primarily to "conservative" or "liberal" principles misses the mark.

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 7:36:35 AM   
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I'm not addressing "confiscating" the cameras.  I'm talking about attempting to prevent the recording, in whatever method they choose to attempt.

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 7:41:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		sorry, im not changing the goalposts.. confiscating cameras was the subject. if you want to go to your "goalpost" be a sport and name them apart from weiner.

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 7:51:48 AM   
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sorry, im not changing the goalposts.. confiscating cameras was the subject. if you want to go to your "goalpost" be a sport and name them apart from weiner.

So it's a property rights issue, and not a 1st amendment issue, to you?

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 7:57:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		you said other libs had done it. kindly point out where a lib has confiscated repub cameras in a town hall meeting and not lib cams???.


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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 7:59:25 AM   
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sorry, im not changing the goalposts.. confiscating cameras was the subject. if you want to go to your "goalpost" be a sport and name them apart from weiner.

So it's a property rights issue, and not a 1st amendment issue, to you?

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Personally, I see it as both. 1st amendment AND being deprived of property without due process. Sleazy as hell no matter who does it and IMO illegal as hell too.

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RE: Democracy by Republican - 8/26/2011 8:02:48 AM   
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