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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 7:21:30 AM   
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Kind of early for Me, so if I put My foot in My mouth, blame the lack of caffeine.

A quick side note, I'm curious to know who put all of the time in to design the face/palm above.  If it was done without a computer program, that's some dedication there.

After reading the comment that inspired the thread, it seems there is a lack of disassociation going on that isn't happening between first person participation and third person perspective.  That's the difference between saying that a certain sexual act is not for Me and not being able to remove oneself from the scenario to understand that it really is what someone else wants. 

What Firm says above regarding porn is very true.  In fact, it's why I don't watch what a lot of people consider "straight" porn.  As soon as that scene with the two chicks comes up (generalizing here, but a lot of flicks include those f/f scenes) I've completely lost interest, so I'm basically wasting My time. 


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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 7:38:58 AM   
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Does my disgust and revolt at seeing lasik eye surgery mean that I am secretly wishing for such surgery?  Or that I am a bigot and prejudiced against people who have it?


Another example: I try never to think about my own parents having sex, so much does it make me shudder.  Yet I've come round to the idea that parents having sex is not something that should be outlawed. 

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 8:10:25 AM   
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 In fact, it's why I don't watch what a lot of people consider "straight" porn.  As soon as that scene with the two chicks comes up (generalizing here, but a lot of flicks include those f/f scenes) I've completely lost interest, so I'm basically wasting My time.

I have to admit ... I don't particularly get off on f/f sex either.  I can watch two lovely women rolling around naked ... but it is more about seeing naked women, than about them having sex.

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 8:32:15 AM   
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Does my disgust and revolt at seeing lasik eye surgery mean that I am secretly wishing for such surgery?  Or that I am a bigot and prejudiced against people who have it?


Another example: I try never to think about my own parents having sex, so much does it make me shudder.  Yet I've come round to the idea that parents having sex is not something that should be outlawed. 



DAMMIT, Peon!! I wish you were here..I'd make YOU clean up the nasally expelled beverage!

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 1:22:08 PM   
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which naturally (to you) leads to the question of "why is this attitude so predominantly a hetero male attitude?"


it doesn't naturally lead to it fuckwit, it simply is an observation she made based on her experiences, experiences and observations that all four of us here can back up.




Oh my ...  a bad experience in life, even several of them, from similar observations ... which provokes some to generalizations ...

My oh my.


I've had bad experiences  with black people, with male homosexuals, with at least two Chinese math teachers, with white heterosexual women, with bank tellers, with white males of any sort ... 


And millions to back that up, even more than the four of you. So there.


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well how the fuck do you know if she is curious about that or not, she is discussing the phenomenon of finding homosexual sex repulsive. unrelated to anything you mentioned here -



Guess you missed out on the "teach a child to read" program.

Let's try this again, shall we?   ...


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On another thread a poster said that since he was a straight male he found the idea of a man blowing another man repulsive and disgusting.





Well gosh, how could anyone here have gotten the notion that her obsession was with male response to viewing a homosexual act between males rather than, as you state, mere "discussing the phenomenon of finding homosexual sex repulsive," and which topic as clearly spelled out in the OP, your rant has nothing to do with, nor any indication of comprehending in any real sense.  

Except that you and three others agree with it.

Except that that's not what she's really saying, as noted by your claim above.


But other than that ... 


Got it.


All good here.











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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:00:28 PM   
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Ya know, Edwynn,

You really aren't ever going to get into the pants of any of the members of the CM's own Quick and Quality Quim Quartet of Lesbian Lovelies (Q4L2 for short  ) , I think you realize already.

But you don't have to be all prickly and outraged about it, either.

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:06:51 PM   
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And you're not going to get into their knickers by grovelling to them, FHKY.  Just saying. 

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:09:33 PM   
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And you're not going to get into their knickers by grovelling to them, FHKY.  Just saying. 

No plans, Peon. 

I'm too old for them, and they are too young for me.

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:17:19 PM   
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Yer an old married fart anyway Firm.

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:17:45 PM   
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This is an interesting question to put up in the midst of the grief of your friend being murdered.


Shame on you Sunny. Would you rather she just sit around crying? Getting online and posting on the boards is a wonderful idea.


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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:19:12 PM   
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Yer an old married fart anyway Firm.

That too, but I was afraid if I listed too many reasons, I'd come off defensive, too! 

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:20:06 PM   
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There you go again with the negative waves, FHKY.   Who cares how young they are, so long as you have earplugs? 


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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:21:17 PM   
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And you're not going to get into their knickers by grovelling to them, FHKY.  Just saying. 

No plans, Peon. 

I'm too old for them, and they are too young for me.

Firm



Yeah besides Treasure would beat the crap out of you if you did.


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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:22:57 PM   
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There you go again with the negative waves, FHKY.   Who cares how young they are, so long as you have earplugs? 


Buddy ... I'm getting off this line of discussion ... there is simply no way to do anything but crash and burn ... women on all sides of me?  I don't have eyes in the back of my head, and I gotta sleep at night, ya know? 

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:24:33 PM   
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Yeah besides Treasure would beat the crap out of you if you did.

See post above. 

She's a very strong submissive. 

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:31:15 PM   
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So why do you think there is such a strong reaction? Why, in your opinion, would anybody find it repulsive?


If you think that being male means not only having a desire for women but also having no desire for men when you see or hear about man/man couplings it can shake your faith in your own gender. Getting a good shaking elicts strong reactions.

quote:

And why is this attitude so predominantly a hetero male attitude?


I don't think it is but on a narrowly focused board like this one, it can seem that way. Out in the general public and in several countries it's not so much a gender thing. There are lots of people who just don't like gays, are repulsed by the notion of gayness and wouldn't mind if those who practice such disappeared from the face of the Earth or got 'cured'. Have you listened to Michelle Bachmann on the subject?

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Would you feel you couldn't become as close a friend with a person with a different sexual orientation as you could with a person with the same orientation as you?


Sexual orientation isn't even in the ball park when it comes to establishing ties with someone. Those things tend to develop naturally anyway and when I click, I click and it's all good regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

quote:

Also the format of the statement bothers me, it's as if what doesn't turn you on has to be repulsive merely as a consequence of your sexual orientation. Do you see it this way, or is it a consequence of personal bias & prejudice?

The latter. If it were a consequence of sexual orientation then it would stand to reason that anyone of that same sexual orientation would feel the same way and they don't.




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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:32:02 PM   
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I know Firm, tread lightly in this thread.

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:33:02 PM   
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There isn't anywhere near the same stigma on lesbian/bi girls as their is on gay/bi guys. Men get conditioned to be revulsed by any form of sex they don't intend to participate in so that no one mistakes them for gay, while women can be as bicurious as they like without reprisal. You will even see lots of gay guys who profess to be disgusted by hetero sex, which I'm quite certain is a rather perverse legacy of that same initial social programming.

ETA: Even I find myself revulsed by the thought of gay sex from time to time, and I occasionally partake of it. What chance do straight guys have lol?


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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:43:42 PM   
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Sorry, but WTF!?!

Part of the grieving process is those moments of normalcy that happen inbetween the usual periods of sorrow, and I am surprised that you are not in understanding of that fact.

Ever attend calling hours and hear people laugh, or go back to someone's house after the funeral/memorial service and these moments of healthy near normalcy creep back in?
Ever pause to watch children just be children after crying?

I am most surprised at you, of all the people here, don't see grief and loss for the curvy road that it is.

Edit: typo & clarity

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RE: Gagging at the thought of a cock? - 8/29/2011 2:51:56 PM   
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Not to interpose nature upon human mental contrivances here, but ...

Hetero men are not "conditioned" by nurture to be repulsed by the actual male homosexual activity itself, nature already did that, long time ago, same time as when nature made men and women different.

It is certainly true that society in times past nurtured people to find the very notion of same-sexual attraction at all to be repulsive, and we would hope that we are in the swan song stage of that.

For the unfortunate last bit of it that we find ourselves in, it is true that F/F is generally more accepted than M/M regarding intimacy, but at least in the everyday life that I'm in, there is acceptance of the person him/herself where it matters.

Porno doesn't matter.









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