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Sabella -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/21/2006 5:13:07 PM)

Hasn't been a problem here at all? I will wait on him, fix his plate, make and fetch his coffee, defer to him whether we are in public or private.
He is the same everywhere we go as well. Now we don't use alot of the phrases like "girl" or "Master" that some do so that has never come up. I do say "my Husband" which is the equivilant of calling him "Master" and he (and everyone else I think) knows it, or at least suspects.

We don't have children in the house so that is not an issue. When we are visiting family I will not drag out my latest toy if there are children there, but I have for my sister, aunts and cousins, to their amusement. They often ask for a demonstration [8|] but change their mind when he offers to demonstrate on THEM *LOL* They all love my collars as well ;) They were actually the ones that asked US if we were in an "old fashioned" or "traditional" relationship and we said yes.

We have gotten some strange looks in restaurants when he orders for me, but I just smile and he ignores them.

Ironically, my older aunts and his mother say that our relationship reminds them of THEIR relationship with their husbands, and they are very fond and respectful of him. It amuses me to no end to see him Dom THEM (telling one no she can't have a sugary dessert because of her diabeties; no he WILL open the door for them and they will let him - or else; the next that it's getting late and she's entertained enough, she will goto bed NOW) and they just love it!!!

I got a bit sidetracked there but I am proud we have so very little to "hide" from the outside world.




faithNZ -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/21/2006 7:24:07 PM)

It's funny - I'm pretty sure that some of my colleagues think that I'm a Domme, probably because in my day to day life I can be quite bossy.  But there are very few people (as in I can count on one hand) that know the real me as being a submissive.  I'm very conservative and BDSM and my current job would not mix very well. 
 
Although I do have a tendency to wear collars that look like ordinary necklaces...




SweetSarijane -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/21/2006 7:45:54 PM)

My family doesn't know of that part of my life nor will I tell them. It's my business and quite frankly not something they need to know. Were they to know, they would not be in any way accepting of it and I don't need that negativity. I have friends both lifestyle and non that I can talk to about various things. It is also not something I would tell work collegues or bosses of. My lifestyle is my business and not something they need to know about.




apb -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/21/2006 8:38:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Raethepain

My family are so wonderfully prudish that it'd never come up. Even vanilla sex is not allowed to exist.


i'm so glad i am not the only one!  Sex doesn't exist in my family either (except for the two times my parents conceived ... )

Bad enough that my parents found out i was a lesbian almost 25 years ago ... i think my latest move in to bisexuality AND BDSM would just blow them away.  Luckily for me they live on the opposite side of the pond in the old country [:)]

i will say that i have learned not to say anything to vanilla friends.  my one unfortunate true confessions session with my "best friend" didn't go so well ...

So, i guess i would say i don't "hide" it per se ... i just don't go around proclaiming it either!




proudsub -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/21/2006 11:04:26 PM)

The only time this came up with my children, now grown, is when they would say to Hubby something like "why don't you do it yourself" or "get it yourself" when He has asked me to do or get him something. I would simply answer that i enjoy doing things for Him. I also worry about our toys and videos if something were to  happen to us and the kids found them.




Raethepain -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/22/2006 4:58:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MouseTrapp

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ORIGINAL: Raethepain

My family are so wonderfully prudish that it'd never come up. Even vanilla sex is not allowed to exist.


i'm so glad i am not the only one!  Sex doesn't exist in my family either (except for the two times my parents conceived ... )

Bad enough that my parents found out i was a lesbian almost 25 years ago ... i think my latest move in to bisexuality AND BDSM would just blow them away.  Luckily for me they live on the opposite side of the pond in the old country [:)]

i will say that i have learned not to say anything to vanilla friends.  my one unfortunate true confessions session with my "best friend" didn't go so well ...

So, i guess i would say i don't "hide" it per se ... i just don't go around proclaiming it either!


My rule is very simple; anyone I would usually discuss sex with I discuss my submissive life. Any one I wouldn't, I wouldn't. Some of my friends just aren't comfy with letting their private lives in to the forum, and I respect that. But all my vanilla friends that discuss their partners sexually with me know.




mastersayed -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/22/2006 5:59:50 AM)

whether you are into BDSM or not people dont want to know about your sex life...especially kids. It would really grose me out to find out anything about my parents sex life.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/22/2006 7:46:53 AM)

Since my relationships have nothing to do with what we DO, but how we relate to eachother, we don't really worry about it.  We just are who we are. 

That being said, we live normal lives.  We don't have chains and equipment around, we don't wear kinky stuff when we're laying on the couch and watching TV. 

I think it's only a double life for people who aren't just living life.  For the ones who make this a fantasy, make it into what they DO/WEAR/SAY, then it becomes a problem when context requires them to DO/WEAR/SAY something else.

The one's who do this long term, 90% of the time you wouldn't see anything different from any other vanilla relationship.




cabaretgirl -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/22/2006 4:15:02 PM)

great advise, thank you




spankmepink11 -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/22/2006 5:05:05 PM)

I'm very  lucky in that i don't have to lead any sort of double life.  My clients could give a hoot about my private/sex life so my employment isn't at risk. My friends and family consider me a traditionalist/freak type (i'm conservative in many ways) , although the level of their awareness of my chosen  lifestyle doesn't even scratch the surface....My close , confidant/girlfriends are  a little envious...and sometimes ask some very interesting questions of me.  
I DO  however, have a designated friend to clear my home of any items/toys/books, including things on my computer that might cause my family any discomfort.
I feel for anyone who has to indeed lead a comletely double life, it would have to be incredibly stressful .




spectreandnectre -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/25/2006 1:49:41 PM)

my family (sort of) knows, they believe that i am a spiritually submissive woman, i was raised in Amish country with pretty strict values so its not to far off, but if they only knew how far i take it they would fall aghast on the floor.
i have lifestyle friends that i can talk lifestyle related problems too so it doesn't become much of an issue for me.




sophia37 -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/25/2006 4:10:19 PM)

to sskitten.

Tried to get into the yahoo group but it doesnt seem to work Do I need to sign up? It would be nice if it were a board like this one. Im trying but having no luck with it. I cant seem to email you thru here either. I'd like to somehow take a look at what you offer. Sophia




slaveladyj -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/25/2006 5:10:44 PM)

I kept my submissive side hidden most my adult life. I raised my family to their own adulthood in a strictly vanilla relationship. Now, it's my turn. My kids know of my submissiveness now,  as do the rest of my family. I do keep it from those I work with, but that's because it has cost me one job.




SweetEscravo -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/25/2006 5:13:30 PM)

I personally enjoy it.  With different doms and friends in the scene we've created little code words and sayings so we will be discussing something without others knowing about it.  I think it is kind of fun to have a secret lifestyle.  Of course it is sometimes difficult to hide something that important from someone I care about, but if he or she is someone I deeply trust or who I feel would understand, I might let them know.  It's just not my families business at all. 





sskitten -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/25/2006 8:04:13 PM)

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Tried to get into the yahoo group but it doesnt seem to work Do I need to sign up? It would be nice if it were a board like this one. Im trying but having no luck with it. I cant seem to email you thru here either. I'd like to somehow take a look at what you offer. Sophia


Yes, you do need to sign up if you wish to read or respond to the messages in the two_flavors group.  Those who subscribe can choose to receive messages by email or can log on to read them online (so it can be accessed sort of like a bulletin board like this).  I set it so that only those who have subscribed can read the messages and post messages.  Please bear in mind that most of those who signed up were uncomfortable with some of the dynamics on the Collarme Message Boards and they did not feel comfortable with the thought of people peeking in casually and possibly judgmentally to read what they were sharing in the "safe haven" I set up.  So I changed the settings so that only subscribers can read the online messages, to help protect the privacy of the subscribers.
 
So far it is quite a small group, but those who have joined have been grateful for the opportunity to share with and receive support from people who are sympathetic and nonjudgmental and who are facing double-life conflicts of their own. 
 
(I am sorry you had trouble reaching me.  I've received other recent messages so I don't know why you could not send me one.  I could not locate your profile and wasn't sure if it is hidden or deleted, so I attempted to send you a message by putting your username in the "to" field of a reply to someone else's message.  The message seemed to be delivered that way.)
 
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akisha -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/25/2006 8:55:29 PM)

Oddly, sex in general was not a taboo subject with my family. My mom was the one all my friends came to when they had questions. We were basically home nudists etc. Though she now comes to me with questions more often then I go to her *s*

I could discuss or tell my mother anything. But when i bring up anything to do with BDSM she doesn't want to discuss it. *g* when i moved the last time she was helping me pack while i was at work and she thought she's pack my closet for me lol. I got home and all she said was i could do my own room and what people do behind closed doors is their business. I think she found the toybox lol

But really, going from having a completely honest open relatinship with my mom to having to hold things back is hard. But I do it for her comfort level. The last discussion we had was regarding poly relationships.. She's relaxed her views on it but still doesn't like the idea. I just learned not to make her go where she doesn't want to and leave it at that.

I am being more open and honest with more of my friends though. I just got tired of trying to hide who i am, plus i suck at keeping secrets hehe.




Divinesub -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/26/2006 4:40:55 AM)

The hardest thing that I had to do was outting myself to my family.  But it is now done - My ex-Dom sent me a threatening letter yesterday in which he indicated that he would send my Pastor, church  videos and pictures of me.  Now everything he has, he has received in the course of our relationship .  But because he also threaten my life, I took the chance of telling them everything vs. finding me injured and wondering why.






shivvy -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (5/26/2006 5:20:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Raethepain

My family are so wonderfully prudish that it'd never come up. Even vanilla sex is not allowed to exist.


my mum and dad are the same. a few of my friends know, but that's about it for now, but i'm kinda in the middle of "coming out". as for a double life, well, i'm me all the time. my Master always said i woz a natural born submissive, because i am just submissive be nature.
 
my daughter doesn't know, but then she's only 5. but when she asks questions, i will answer her honestly and in langauge that is appropriate for her age and level of understanding.
 
as for guilt, i wasn't aware i had anything to be guilty of...




diamonddreamlove -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (6/5/2006 10:18:10 AM)

hmmm cheaters lol what a word sounds terrible but my marriage vows did Not include forsaking all others or for that matter obey.  Those were omitted for a reason.  Perhaps i am a cheater but then i am cheated by the vanilla husband that does not give me what i need as well.  Guilt i already addressed i am more concerned in protecting my family as in husband and son than worried about feeling guilty.  i am who i am and will not be less than that because of a vanilla marriage.  Why not divorce?  Well for the simple reason i love my husband, he just does not fullfill this part of my life and emotionally can not fullfill it.  He knows my interests and tries to fill my days and nights with alternatives, he also looks into my eyes and knows although it is never spoken.  Someday i will bring it out that i am doing "real time" but until then i will protect and even then i will protect because that is my role/job in my family to protect their wellfare.  The main thing i see is that the choosen Dom needs to understand my situation and only He can decide if He can live with that dreadful cheating stain.  Aww well has not been a problem so far and if it becomes one then i would say the Dom would need to release me for it would be His problem of acceptance not mine.  In short i don't feel guilt unless i am shirking my vanilla responsibilities then it is time for a reevaluation of time not activity.




Daddysredhead -> RE: Coping with Double Lives (6/5/2006 8:49:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: puella

I think it is one thing to sit down with your 80 year old father and say... Yeah so dad... just for your own edification, I am a consensual slave and this guy you think is great in my life... he likes to occasionally take a whip to your daughter, we have wonderful sex afterwords and I am, on more than an occasional basis, chained, blindfolded and used as a slut.



Puella, I read this and almost fell out laughing, but probably not for the reasons you might think.  My 81 year old father and I were having a discussion just this evening about BDSM.  (OK, now you can pick your jaw up because I didn't use your verbage while talking to him, however, I just kind of mentioned what the triskellion stood for - in very vague D/s (not BD or SM) terms - as I've been considering getting a small tattoo of one.) 

However, my dad knows that I am in a Dom/sub relationship (or "traditional" as my father would call it) with my Master (or as my dad calls Him, my "fella"), who is very much a man's man and with whom my father gets along famously.  I have told my father that I see my relationship with my "fella" like the relationship that my parents had with each other.  (In the way that Sabella describes in her post in this thread.)  My father tells me often that he loved taking care of my mother and taking on the responsibility of being the head of the house, and in return, my mother took care of and adored my father and made sure that he knew he was loved and appreciated by her.  My father tells me that he sees me at my happiest in this relationship and thinks that the pre-established roles Master and I have are probably the reason for that happiness as there's never a power-struggle.

Master and I have minor children, so we can't be as open as those without kids, but a lot of our friends know, including some of our vanilla friends.  Some think it's interesting and others are just secretly curious about wiitwd.  I joke a lot about spanking people who annoy me, so I have my own little "secret" - it's just funnier when Master is there to share the secret code with me.  

Growing up in a sexually uptight family, I fancy myself the one who can just be a little "out there" and call a spade a spade (although respectfully).  Before my mother passed away, I used to be able to tell her slightly risquee jokes and make her giggle.  It was very sweet and just so funny to hear her say, "Awww!  You're bad!" and giggle.

I don't think it's necessarily a double life, but not everyone I know needs to know all my business.  And by the way, my father likes the triskellion symbol for my next tattoo!  I hope I'm that cool when I'm 81!!!  [:)]




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