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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/30/2011 2:40:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		No it is not OK to slap anybody, nor is being slapped a valid reason to do so in return.Violence is never the correct response unless somebody's life or physical well being is being directly threatened, and even then the absolute minimum of violence or physical force should be employed.


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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/30/2011 2:49:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let's say it was glancing blow, or it was blocked, but the intent was there?

And yes some men can, at first, they may be briefly stunned but will quickly fill with an adrenaline fueled rage fit. When that happens, pain just isn't felt the same. I have seen it, it is scary. Seen a guy stabbed in the kidney area, within a second or two, this guy regained himself and stomped the piss out of the other guy, damn near killed him. It's a risky move to attack anyone unless you know how that person will react and how you stack up. Look how many people can just wade through a pepperspraying and still make it to their victim, or even get shot yet continue to move/fight for a long time. Survival instincts can be a powerful thing.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/30/2011 3:31:43 PM   
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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/30/2011 3:34:22 PM   
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Let's say it was glancing blow, or it was blocked, but the intent was there?

And yes some men can, at first, they may be briefly stunned but will quickly fill with an adrenaline fueled rage fit..................... Look how many people can just wade through a pepperspraying and still make it to their victim....................Survival instincts can be a powerful thing.


Obviously they haven't been sprayed with Fox pepper spray. Most of the other brands are sub par. Google it. Sorry to get off the subject of the OP but I'm just sayin.
 



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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/30/2011 5:23:56 PM   
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No it is not OK to slap anybody, nor is being slapped a valid reason to do so in return.Violence is never the correct response unless somebody's life or physical well being is being directly threatened, and even then the absolute minimum of violence or physical force should be employed.



You say that, Arpig, but you should have met my ex-GF.  God, could she take a punch!  Even in hospital, she could crack me up laughing.  Hell, I loved that woman. 

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 2:28:57 AM   
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No it is not OK to slap anybody, nor is being slapped a valid reason to do so in return.Violence is never the correct response unless somebody's life or physical well being is being directly threatened, and even then the absolute minimum of violence or physical force should be employed.


Yes. Non-consensual violence has no part in human relationships. Age gender sexual preference race etc are irrelevant. Whoever initiates the violence bears responsibility for whatever follows.

However, unlike some here, I don't feel that being the victim of assault entitles a person to do whatever they like in response. A level of violence necessary to subdue the assailant and terminate the assault is justifiable. Anything exceeding this is not.

Not should we let any of the above blind us to the fact the overwhelming majority of violence in today's world is committed by males. Women and children are often virtually defenceless victims of that violence.

While some degree of defensive violence may be necessary to stop aggressive violence by others, let's not delude ourselves into thinking for a moment that the solution to problems of violence is more violence. It's not, never has been and never will be.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 5:08:07 AM   
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While some degree of defensive violence may be necessary to stop aggressive violence by others, let's not delude ourselves into thinking for a moment that the solution to problems of violence is more violence. It's not, never has been and never will be.
i don't fucking know about that, when some fucker is wailing away on you, sticking 6" of sharpened steel into his guts tends to make him reconsider his actions really fucking quickly.

you go ahead and putz around with your "reasonable levels of violence" if you want, not me. i'm going to drop the cocksucker and end it right fucking then and there.

i'm not going to fuck around with my safety or that of those i love, i'm going to stop that motherfucker cold in his or her tracks. if you fuck with me or mine then its your own damned fault, you ordered up a world of hurt and i'll fucking well deliver.


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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 5:21:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course it's okay.  If it's consensual, and if you know what you're doing (lots of breakable bones in the face - hard slapping is not for casual play).

Otherwise no.


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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 5:23:39 AM   
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Guys have you ever been slapped by a girl. What was your reaction. Did you hit back or did you do the Pc thing and walk away. And Girls do you think PC has become ridiculous now and that some girls are taking the argument if i slap you you can t slap me because Im a girl to ridiculous extremes. After all generally lads are st ronger than girls but not in every case. Is there any justification for ever slapping a Woman or is it just plain WRONG WRONG WRONG no matter what. should guys just take a beating from a girl because Women are said to be weaker. And girls who really want equality can they really complain if after hitting a man if the man hits back after all they instigated it right
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Yes been slapped. Unfortunately I laughed which made her cry...It was confusing.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 10:19:38 AM   
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A redneck? Someone who think that Women should not be hit because they are Women. So that must be a redneck belief that Feminists give us that Women should not be hit at all even if they instigate the violence because they are Women. This forum is indeed an education. i have learned something new
thank You
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The thought that women should not be hit just because they are women did not stem from rednecks, or feminists, in my opinion. It came from a time when women still got vapors and fainted when they saw something like a rat, blood, etc. A time that happened a long time ago. Don't get me wrong I am not a feminist. I have a few issues with "modern" feminism and I'm not saying that men should be allowed to do whatever they want either(which for some is a very redneck thought) I am just saying that where/how I was raised we were taught that you don't start a fight if you can't back up what comes out of your mouth. And you don't assume someone won't take a shot at you just because of your gender, handicap, race, age, etc.

*oh* ETA- I said yay for being a redneck because I am one, and none others I know believe that you don't hit girls....at least not if they hit you first.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 10:29:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		So what do you think about modern feminism that inhibits Women or lets just say puts Women on dangerous ground re their independence. i definitely think it may be the view of SOME feminists that Women can hit with impunity or take their violence out on a man and have the law uphold this , ie they do not get into trouble legally if they are violent and have the law on their side
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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 10:34:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		i also think the Woman can slap hammer strike or punch men and men can t hit back philosophy or view is dangerous because one day a man maybe fed up with being beaten will say shag this you never hit a Woman crap and think perhaps if a Woman can hit like a man then She should be expected to be treated like a man ie if a man hits me i hit him back a Woman hits me no different and this view will put Women at risk of serious injury or even death if they take it out on the wrong man, it wont be me but it will be an aggrieved male somewhere who is fed up of being beaten etc
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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 10:49:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		If a woman believes that she is big enough to take a swing at a man (or woman) First, she had best also believe that she is big enough to take it. 

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 12:38:23 PM   
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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 3:06:34 PM   
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While some degree of defensive violence may be necessary to stop aggressive violence by others, let's not delude ourselves into thinking for a moment that the solution to problems of violence is more violence. It's not, never has been and never will be.
i don't fucking know about that, when some fucker is wailing away on you, sticking 6" of sharpened steel into his guts tends to make him reconsider his actions really fucking quickly.

you go ahead and putz around with your "reasonable levels of violence" if you want, not me. i'm going to drop the cocksucker and end it right fucking then and there.

i'm not going to fuck around with my safety or that of those i love, i'm going to stop that motherfucker cold in his or her tracks. if you fuck with me or mine then its your own damned fault, you ordered up a world of hurt and i'll fucking well deliver.




Thank you HLH. Your post is a compelling example of why violence is not the solution to violence, never has been nor never will be.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 3:11:17 PM   
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Thank you HLH. Your post is a compelling example of why violence is not the solution to violence, never has been nor never will be.


I really hope for your sake you are never put in a life threating situation as a result of someone's malice. Your ass will be dead with all of that I am unwilling to defend myself philosophy. Your kindness doesn't melt the hearts of crazed maniacs.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 3:52:31 PM   
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Thank you HLH. Your post is a compelling example of why violence is not the solution to violence, never has been nor never will be.


I really hope for your sake you are never put in a life threating situation as a result of someone's malice. Your ass will be dead with all of that I am unwilling to defend myself philosophy. Your kindness doesn't melt the hearts of crazed maniacs.

Thanks for your good wishes.

Where did I advocate a " I am unwilling to defend myself philosophy"? I don't believe I did.

Fortunately I live in a society with very low murder and serious assault rates (which is not to say that violence isn't an issue here). It might help explain my antipathy towards using violence as a solution to violence.

It seems self-evident that the least possible level of violence in a society is desirable. If you read my posts, you'll find that is what I advocated.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 4:19:03 PM   
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No it is not OK to slap anybody, nor is being slapped a valid reason to do so in return.Violence is never the correct response unless somebody's life or physical well being is being directly threatened, and even then the absolute minimum of violence or physical force should be employed.



Did anyone ever tell you that you're really no fun?

Find me a cute redhead and she can slap the shit out of me.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 4:27:29 PM   
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So what do you think about modern feminism that inhibits Women or lets just say puts Women on dangerous ground re their independence. i definitely think it may be the view of SOME feminists that Women can hit with impunity or take their violence out on a man and have the law uphold this , ie they do not get into trouble legally if they are violent and have the law on their side
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The law doesn't uphold that.

Women get arrested on domestic violence charges frequently.

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RE: Is it ok to slap a guy - 8/31/2011 9:18:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok a few things to cover here (because you asked my thinking on the matter)

Modern feminism....I take issue with the idea of "We want to stand on equal ground" when it really isn 't equal ground. We want equal pay for equal work...but you can't make jokes or look at our boobs. We want our jobs...but we want paid leave if we get knocked up.Umm why? They don't pay men for having kids, and before anyones says it I am a parent and I went back to work two days after my son, who had to stay in the hospital was born. I got little to no sleep.No one offered to pay me to stay and worry. No one offered to even let his dad have time off to visit. And don't start the men don't give birth thing either, because yes I know that too. I also know if they did they would have to make plans for things like babies...women should too. There are other things, but it would only start a fight so I'll stop about that.

Your comment about a larger man having been fed up with the attitude and taking it out on a smaller woman...ok and, so what? I still stand by the thought that you shouldn't start a fight you can't finish. *oh* and would you think the same way if it were a small man and a larger woman. I am by no means small. My pet is taller but thinner than I am. We got in an arguement some ago time about the way he was acting(nothing to do with D/s) and a neighbor called a cop. When they showed up the two of them asked if it were a domistic thing. The problem was they both looked at me when they said it. Not him, who I could snap in half without breathing hard....me. They asked because I am female so they assumed I most be a victim. Sorry no I'm not a victim. I have never stood beside a man a day in my life without thinking "if I had to protect myself how would I dissable this guy" You said if this happens with the wrong guy. I assume you mean someone big mean and maybe a little mental....so I have to ask if you would care if it was a little guy getting in a fight with him. He might very well kill another man too. Gender has nothing to do with it.

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If a woman believes that she is big enough to take a swing at a man (or woman) First, she had best also believe that she is big enough to take it. 


^ This ...you agree with but asked, and came up with excuses, for me. I have been saying the same thing she did, but not with the same words.

I quote no one but myself again on this one..."DO POINT A GUN AT SOMETHING YOU DO NOT INTEND TO KILL, AND DO NOT START A FIGHT YOU CAN NOT END"



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