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farglebargle -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 5:58:18 AM)

So, are we supposed to forget the fact that he fraudulently filed required financial disclosures apparently in an attempt to conceal sources of income?




DomYngBlk -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 5:58:48 AM)

Who or what is frodo baggins?




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 6:22:45 AM)

In this case he is used as a metaphor..... and a pretty good one at that




TheHeretic -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 6:44:13 AM)

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Are there any lefties using made up bull shit smear tactics




So I'm guessing you either missed the video this week of Bachmann being edited and falsely captioned as saying "who likes white people," or you are hoping everybody else missed it, huh?




Edwynn -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 6:46:14 AM)



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Either way....

Liberal Democrats have been caught flat footed




Right.

A complete fabrication in one opinion piece which selectively abstracts from another complete fabrication in another opinion article which together conduce to supporting the ongoing fabrication in your own mind constitute "Liberal Democrats have  been caught flat footed."



Got it.







Iamsemisweet -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 8:00:46 AM)

Yes, well, this is one man's opinion. I have yet to meet any credible legal scholars who think Thomas is anything other than a hack and scalia's bitch. I did read The Nine, though, and he is apparently very well liked although bitter.




Sanity -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 8:16:58 AM)


FR-

In my opinion, these two are the most noteworthy paragraphs of the article:

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How Real Is The Fear?


The prospect of a serious judicial rehabilitation of the Tenth Amendment is real, though perhaps not immediate.  And change this sweeping is unlikely to come simply because a relative handful of judges and lawyers change their minds on an issue of constitutional interpretation.  A broader change would need to take place in society so that the idea of transferring more activities from Washington to the states appeals to public opinion to the point where presidents appoint judges who share this philosophy, the Senate confirms them, and the new majority begins to set a new direction for the law.

Arguably, we are nearing a zone where something like that could happen.  The apparent Republican front-runner Governor Rick Perry has strong views on the Constitution.  His book Fed Up! Our Fight To Save America From Washington is essentially an essay calling for a return to the concept of a federal government limited to its enumerated powers.  Let unemployment stay above 8 percent through November of 2012 and President Perry could be sending the names of judicial nominees to a Republican Senate. With a couple more allies on the Supreme Court, Justice Thomas could get pretty close to the lava pits of Mount Doom.





Edwynn -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 8:33:47 AM)



Of course they are the most important paragraphs to you, mr. dead-cat-face, being as that they present the most far flung breach of anything to do with reality, and spin a most creative rendition of mankind's dive into the abyss as the latest sunflower.

As always.









mnottertail -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 9:08:30 AM)


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The real problem will come if Thomas can figure out how to get the Tenth Amendment back into constitutional thought in a serious way.  The Second Amendment was a constitutional landmine for the left; the Tenth is a nuclear bomb.
Damnit, FDD!

We pretty much already got the 2nd Amendment back by stealth!  Now your going to wake the bastards up that we are on target for the 10th!  [8D]

Firm



LOL. An imaginary Ragnarok, the second amendment hasnt changed since......geez, it was passed, and there were no real threats to it, couple of dipshits, and the 10th historically hasnt been used for much, since the checkbook has the effect of law, don't want to drive 55? No federal highway funding, no problem, that is indeed a states rights issue. Don't want to raise the drinking age to 21? States rights issue, goodbye federal funding.

Yanno, it is the poor southern states that are still at the forefront of that 10th amendment battle, they want their states rights, are they willing to forego the federal monies?

I think that once they have been to that dance with the ribbons in their hair, they aint gonna wanna shuck that party dress again.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 9:11:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

So, are we supposed to forget the fact that he fraudulently filed required financial disclosures apparently in an attempt to conceal sources of income?


No, he didnt.




DomKen -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 10:25:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

So, are we supposed to forget the fact that he fraudulently filed required financial disclosures apparently in an attempt to conceal sources of income?


No, he didnt.

What do you call checking the box that says his wife had no income? For 10 years? In which she made in excess of $500,000?




Lucylastic -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 10:40:42 AM)

an error in box checking?




farglebargle -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 10:43:40 AM)

If Clarence Thomas is that negligent in required financial disclosure filings, can he be trusted to do anything correctly?

Raise your hand if your wife has a half-million in income you just forgot about. Bueller? Bueller?.....




FirmhandKY -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 11:15:42 AM)

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The real problem will come if Thomas can figure out how to get the Tenth Amendment back into constitutional thought in a serious way.  The Second Amendment was a constitutional landmine for the left; the Tenth is a nuclear bomb.
Damnit, FDD!

We pretty much already got the 2nd Amendment back by stealth!  Now your going to wake the bastards up that we are on target for the 10th!  [8D]

LOL. An imaginary Ragnarok, the second amendment hasnt changed since......geez, it was passed, and there were no real threats to it, couple of dipshits, and the 10th historically hasnt been used for much, since the checkbook has the effect of law, don't want to drive 55? No federal highway funding, no problem, that is indeed a states rights issue. Don't want to raise the drinking age to 21? States rights issue, goodbye federal funding.

Yanno, it is the poor southern states that are still at the forefront of that 10th amendment battle, they want their states rights, are they willing to forego the federal monies?

I think that once they have been to that dance with the ribbons in their hair, they aint gonna wanna shuck that party dress again.

No, the words of the amendments haven't changed: just the interpretation of what they mean.

As far as the 2nd not being changed by the current court ... go tell that to Chicago and DC.

As far as federal monies and the 10th ... of course they are going to take it.  It's green mail.  Otherwise, the states are bled through taxes, and receive nothing for it.

But we all know that the issue can't be settled state by state, by an occasional refusal to kowtow to the federal behemoth.  The article was quite clear that going back to the more correct legal interpretation of the 10th won't be easy, and may never occur.  However, it is certainly one way to reign in the ever growing power of government (federal, at least).

Firm




Sanity -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 11:20:37 AM)


Oops

My fault probably, for winding you up a little too tight

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn



Of course they are the most important paragraphs to you, mr. dead-cat-face, being as that they present the most far flung breach of anything to do with reality, and spin a most creative rendition of mankind's dive into the abyss as the latest sunflower.

As always.










willbeurdaddy -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 11:20:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

So, are we supposed to forget the fact that he fraudulently filed required financial disclosures apparently in an attempt to conceal sources of income?


No, he didnt.

What do you call checking the box that says his wife had no income? For 10 years? In which she made in excess of $500,000?


The same thing some call Geithner's "fraudulent tax returns"




mnottertail -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 11:26:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

The real problem will come if Thomas can figure out how to get the Tenth Amendment back into constitutional thought in a serious way.  The Second Amendment was a constitutional landmine for the left; the Tenth is a nuclear bomb.
Damnit, FDD!

We pretty much already got the 2nd Amendment back by stealth!  Now your going to wake the bastards up that we are on target for the 10th!  [8D]

LOL. An imaginary Ragnarok, the second amendment hasnt changed since......geez, it was passed, and there were no real threats to it, couple of dipshits, and the 10th historically hasnt been used for much, since the checkbook has the effect of law, don't want to drive 55? No federal highway funding, no problem, that is indeed a states rights issue. Don't want to raise the drinking age to 21? States rights issue, goodbye federal funding.

Yanno, it is the poor southern states that are still at the forefront of that 10th amendment battle, they want their states rights, are they willing to forego the federal monies?

I think that once they have been to that dance with the ribbons in their hair, they aint gonna wanna shuck that party dress again.

No, the words of the amendments haven't changed: just the interpretation of what they mean.

As far as the 2nd not being changed by the current court ... go tell that to Chicago and DC.

As far as federal monies and the 10th ... of course they are going to take it.  It's green mail.  Otherwise, the states are bled through taxes, and receive nothing for it.

But we all know that the issue can't be settled state by state, by an occasional refusal to kowtow to the federal behemoth.  The article was quite clear that going back to the more correct legal interpretation of the 10th won't be easy, and may never occur.  However, it is certainly one way to reign in the ever growing power of government (federal, at least).

Firm




BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!

Survey says ZERO!!!!!
Those are states rights issues, see the 10th. Chicago wants to limit usage and has no state constitutional beef with Illinois, go get em tiger.

They are not anywhere saying you cannot own them, that would be sorta unconstitutional, if you get my drift.

DC. Not a state, but same with Fed.

Strawman and red herring. Not your average pickled fish, I guess.




DomKen -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 12:17:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

So, are we supposed to forget the fact that he fraudulently filed required financial disclosures apparently in an attempt to conceal sources of income?


No, he didnt.

What do you call checking the box that says his wife had no income? For 10 years? In which she made in excess of $500,000?


The same thing some call Geithner's "fraudulent tax returns"

So felonius behavior then. Glad we cleared that up.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 12:32:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

So, are we supposed to forget the fact that he fraudulently filed required financial disclosures apparently in an attempt to conceal sources of income?


No, he didnt.

What do you call checking the box that says his wife had no income? For 10 years? In which she made in excess of $500,000?


The same thing some call Geithner's "fraudulent tax returns"

So felonius behavior then. Glad we cleared that up.


Why don't you show us some of your posts condemning Geithner. And it didnt clear up anything, since neither did anything felonious.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Clarence Thomas America's Frodo Baggins (8/31/2011 12:35:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

So, are we supposed to forget the fact that he fraudulently filed required financial disclosures apparently in an attempt to conceal sources of income?


No, he didnt.

What do you call checking the box that says his wife had no income? For 10 years? In which she made in excess of $500,000?


The same thing some call Geithner's "fraudulent tax returns"

So felonius behavior then. Glad we cleared that up.


Why don't you show us some of your posts condemning Geithner. And it didnt clear up anything, since neither did anything felonious.

I've never supported Geithner. They're BOTH fraudulent.




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