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transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 8:14:34 AM

soledevotion

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i am intrigued by a practice i have heard of where Masters transfer any aches or ills they may have to a slave - having it lay under their bare feet and pressing hard against the slave stomach - aches and ills supposedly drain from Master and into slave. i am told the Americans used this with African slaves regularly and that it was also used by Mexicans, Spaniards and some other cultures. i am told it has to do with Earth's magnetism, body heat - but mostly mind power.

Have any Masters tried this healing method, have any thoughts on it etc?

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 8:21:57 AM

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er... are you serious?

I mean.. at one point, it was thought that people having epileptic seizures were possessed by Satan.... ?

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 8:41:55 AM

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soledevotion,

I tried this once and it backfired and got the subs aches and pains and was sick for a week with PMS. j/k

Actually, I have heard of this before but never tried it.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 8:59:38 AM

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I do not find this concept that foriegn to me.Part of what makes me a submissive personality is the empathy I have for another's suffering. I will get "sympathy" pains for people I see that are suffering. It was extremely difficult for me to care for my stepfather that recently passed away because of this.... His suffering was sooooo deep.

I can see how this "synpathetic pain" syndrome could lead a Master to believe their slave could drain their pain away.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 1:54:00 PM

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This technique was demonstrated in the movie called Mandingo, starring Robert Duval, Ken Norton, Susan York. Robert Duval was a southern plantation owner who would sit on his plantation home front porch in a rocing chair, with a juvenile slave boy laying on his back under Duval's bare feet to take away all of Duval's sickness and ills. The movie was in large part about fighting male slaves (mandingos, who fought bare handed to the death of one mandingo), and the plantation owner's attempts to breed new mandingo fighting stock slaves.

If you've never seen the movie, check if Blockbuster has it available to rent on DVD or VHS tape, it will enlighten you to many old days and old ways regarding slavery.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 4:22:18 PM

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That probably would make a slave fart or pee, and would probably make a Master feel worse, not to mention the slave.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 4:34:23 PM

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I'm not a Master ;) but we do have experience with this, and have for years.
I'm an empath, and very easily pickup emotions and feelings from other people and crowds. He is NOT but together we share a symbonic relationship often knowing what the other is thinking, planning, about to say (keeping suprises surprises is difficult, to say the least).

In the years since he has suffered from back pain from an old injury, most of the time he can "block" the pain from me - especially once he realized I was picking up on it and actually having real physical pain from it. When he is tired or in extreme pain, he cannot keep me out, or from sharing it - especially if I am in physical contact. When I am in extreme pain he also feels it. We both have come up to each other and touched the painful area and described whether it was burning or throbbing, muscle or joint, cold or hot pain and the exact extent that it covers.

For example one evening while watching TV with friends I knew he was in pain but blocking me. I casually lay my leg against his back and within minutes my right shoulder began to ache and burn, extending up to my neck but it was radiating from my back about 8 inches down. A fiercely cold spot developed in that area, about the size of my palm. A few minutes later he looked up at me and ordered me to stop. I was draining it away and he could feel it. Our friends were confused (but not amazed, we do many odd things) when I lay my hands on him and told him exactly how and where he was hurting - and that I would stop if he would relent and take a pain pill *LOL*

I have felt his pain when I was in another room, and he was ASLEEP.

The bonus is if we relax and meld, especially while touching - alot of the shared pain does dissapate.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 4:59:48 PM

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An interesting corsican concept, is the effect limited to pain or discomfort?
How do you feel after he takes a pain pill?

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 5:08:27 PM

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I am empathic too, I do not know if it is "psychic" or not, but I get sympathy pains for people. I also pick up when people are happy too and it makes me feel good, especially when giving pleasure... does that count?...lol

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 5:23:54 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

An interesting corsican concept, is the effect limited to pain or discomfort?
How do you feel after he takes a pain pill?

No, unfortunately

We feed off each other's general frame of mind (anxious, angry, excited) sometimes which can be very annoying for both of us. But once we're aware of it then work to improve the mood (or get out of traffic *G*).

After he takes a pain pill I'll feel it when it "kicks in" but by then he's battling hard to lock me out

. I wish he wouldn't do that, because I DO help with it. He's so stubborn *grrrr!*

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 5:45:43 PM

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I think we can transfer energy..and do all the time.

Simple example: Ever talked to someone who is feeling down...they end up feeling really good but you walk away from the conversation feeling drained or down yourself?

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/21/2006 6:23:50 PM

Sabella

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*nods* yes exactly! I call those folks "vampires" because I'm usually exhausted afterwards, ugh! Or siphoning energy off a happy crowd of folks ;)

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/22/2006 7:16:42 AM

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Transferring energy, including to the point of physical sensations, is nothing new nor is it specific to Ms or Ds. My mother and I would regularly give eachother our headaches and ills.

I've had to learn over the years how to shield myself so that I don't "take on pain" from others and thus wear myself out- but sure, happens a lot.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/22/2006 7:54:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sabella

*nods* yes exactly! I call those folks "vampires" because I'm usually exhausted afterwards, ugh! Or siphoning energy off a happy crowd of folks ;)

Psychic vampires is what they are called. They feed off the emotions of others.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/22/2006 7:30:57 PM

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I have heard of empaths, of course, but I've never known one. This sounds like fascinating reading. Can anyone recommend some literature on this?

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/22/2006 7:36:36 PM

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I have heard of empaths, of course, but I've never known one. This sounds like fascinating reading. Can anyone recommend some literature on this?

We're not talking about empaths. Empaths are sensitive towards and can feel others emotions and states of being- they don't take it away from them. That's a completely different skill and process. Psychic/energy vampires aren't being empathic, in fact they are likely being very blind to what they are doing.

Now, there's no reason a person can't be an empath AND take on someone else's energy, but they aren't the same thing.

Trust me, I'm about the LEAST empathic person I know, but I instinctively have taken pain from others for as long as I can remember and had to teach myself how to STOP.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/22/2006 7:42:31 PM

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Energy exchange happens all the time. As a massage therapist I experience it often. There are times when my first client of the day will drain me and I will feel like I have done a full days work...other times I can be on my 8th massage but the person is so full of good energy that I feel like I spent a day at the spa myself when I am finished. Imagine the energy exchange between intimate partners.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/22/2006 7:49:10 PM

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I have been an empath all of my life. I can feel pain sense memories and more with my ability. I can also project and take pains and ills with consent. I can suck energy and I can also share /enhance pleasure. One of my favorite things to do is allow my partner to experience things I feel physically and also feel their sensations. Something I have always done and just honed over the years, I have not read on the subject. I have spoken to a number of empaths over the years and do work with people on this subject. On a side note, if I pull pain I give it to the earth where it can do no harm. Taking on anothers pain or giving another pain does noone good unless you are sadistic to the core. Giving pain which is the bodys way of giving messages to us does not stop the issue that caused the pain....just gives outlet for a larger message of pain or dis-ease....

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/22/2006 7:54:22 PM

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There are times when my first client of the day will drain me and I will feel like I have done a full days work...other times I can be on my 8th massage but the person is so full of good energy that I feel like I spent a day at the spa myself when I am finished.

When a client drains me I usually go take a shower (it works)..I've got pretty good at not allowing people to leach off me though, so doesnt happen all that often now. Can so relate to what you're saying though.

More on empathy:
I saved my late husbands life numerous times from knowing what was going on with him by feeling it myself and being able to act on it.

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RE: transfering aches and ills to a slave - 5/23/2006 6:00:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: bklynbbw
Imagine the energy exchange between intimate partners.

Exactly how and why I can enjoy random anonymous sex so much with others :)

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