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Fightdirecto -> "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 10:15:39 AM)

Statement By Congressman Jesse L. Jackson, Jr. (D-IL-2)
GOVERNOR RICK PERRY AND THE SLAVE AMENDMENT
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Governor Rick Perry wants to be the champion of the Tenth Amendment and states' rights, which grants to the states all rights not explicitly in the U.S. Constitution. [POSTER's COMMENT: The word "explicitly" is NOT found anywhere within the 10th Amendment - only in the minds of Governor Perry, Senator Demint and other anti-government obstructionists] He said he wants to "work every day to try to make Washington, DC, as inconsequential in your life as I can." He wants to get the federal government off your back. He thinks that when the Preamble to the Constitution was written and it said one of the nation's purposes was to "promote the general Welfare," it didn't mean programs like Social Security - which he believes is unconstitutional. He apparently believes, as Ronald Reagan did, that the federal government is not the solution. The federal government is the problem.

Truer words or more faithful ideas could not have been attributed to Confederate President Jefferson Davis or his Vice President Alexander Hamilton Stephens. After-all, it was the Tenth Amendment and states' rights that protected the institution of slavery. The words "slave" or "slavery" did not appear in the Constitution. The institution of slavery, the Tenth Amendment and states' rights are joined at the hip.

It was the Tenth Amendment and states' rights, the South argued, that gave it the right to secede from the Union in 1861 - an act of treason. But it didn't really secede to protect states' rights. It seceded to protect the institution of slavery
- which was protected by the Tenth Amendment and states' rights. And the new Confederate government was honest about its racial foundation as Vice President Stephens made clear in his famous "Cornerstone" speech: "Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea" (of equality of the races); "its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition." Governor Perry said if Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke "printed more money" it would be tantamount to treason, yet he is advocating a philosophy that provided the foundation for actual treason...

...from 1870 to the present the Tenth Amendment has been used primarily to keep the Federal Government from bringing equality within and between the 50 states on such critical issues...

Governor Rick Perry is using his campaign to attempt to resuscitate this ancient 18th century legal dinosaur and bring it to life again in the modern 21st century...

Progress in this country for labor, women, minorities and the environment, among other things, has been made by making this nation into a more perfect Union, not by perpetuating a more perfect states' rights. While Governor Perry's advocacy of the Tenth Amendment and states' rights is not a campaign to restore slavery, that is the origin and history of both. But there still remains a "chip on Rick Perry's southern shoulder" that is resentful of what Abraham Lincoln, his Union troops - including colored troops - and the Federal government did to the South in defeating the Confederacy and ending its treasured institution of slavery. That's the Tenth Amendment and states' right bad root, and Governor Perry should be questioned about his understanding of it, as well as the national good fruit that came with establishing a more perfection Union - Social Security, Medicare, the Wagner Act, the Clean Air & Water Acts and much more.




Hillwilliam -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 11:31:29 AM)

Statement By Congressman Jesse L. Jackson, Jr. (D-IL-2


consider the source Director.

I have absolutely no love for Perry but Jackson is a sleaze that will say or do anything to get into the limelight like his old man.




ArizonaBossMan -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 11:32:14 AM)

I see Jesse Junior is as big a a blowhard punk as daddy. How nice. Who cares.




Hillwilliam -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 11:34:43 AM)

HOLY SHIT, STOP THE PRESSES. Im agreeing with ABM




Real0ne -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 11:43:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

It was the Tenth Amendment and states' rights, the South argued, that gave it the right to secede from the Union in 1861 - an act of treason. But it didn't really secede to protect states' rights. It seceded to protect the institution of slavery
- which was protected by the Tenth Amendment and states' rights.




And the new Confederate government was honest about its racial foundation as Vice President Stephens made clear in his famous "Cornerstone" speech: "Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea" (of equality of the races); "its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition." Governor Perry said if Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke "printed more money" it would be tantamount to treason, yet he is advocating a philosophy that provided the foundation for actual treason...

...from 1870 to the present the Tenth Amendment has been used primarily to keep the Federal Government from bringing equality within and between the 50 states on such critical issues...

Governor Rick Perry is using his campaign to attempt to resuscitate this ancient 18th century legal dinosaur and bring it to life again in the modern 21st century...




This is such a mess one does not know where to start.

1) States are E-States, aka plantations of the sovereign.

same thing as you have real E-state in early times your estate was your castle and you had sovereign power.

It was all about PRIVATE "property" rights!

The reconstruction made everyone slaves by stealing the property rights by FORCE and granting them to the feds and the states governments.

2) slavery was in FACT a property right of the owner regardless how anyone wants to spin it.

The south was correct and the feds not the north did not follow proper procedure in equity to settle with the slave owners.

Next this idea slavery was not the original intent is purely bullshit.

You all need to look up what or who the "candid" people are!

Thats just for starters with this bullshit.







mnottertail -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 11:49:58 AM)

That is the largest amout of horseshit you have piled in one place to date. And you have piled boxcar upon boxcar of it out here.

There was nothing to settle with slaveowners, they were free in thier slaveholding states (yanno, 10th amendment) to fuck em, to kill em, to jail em, to work em, to do whatever those states allowed them to do. There were no rights taken by the federal government that required a 'procedure' for settling a claim.

The civil war started over the siezure and occupation of federal land (Ft. Sumter) by a state militia.





Real0ne -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 11:57:13 AM)

more asswipe from the swamp.

what "started" it is wholy irrelevant.

someone could have shit in their cheerios for all we give a damn.

The point still remains the reconstruction usurped, that means STOLE the property rights of the people and transferred them to the states and fed wherein they declared themselves sovereign and still are today.  You know those old outdated articles of confederation notwithstanding!  puke!


in fact I think the feds should walk into your place tomorrow and empty it out to set your products free.

Then you would have a clue how the south felt.  DUH






popeye1250 -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 12:59:55 PM)

And Obama sounds like Karl Marx.




mnottertail -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 1:04:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

more asswipe from the swamp.

what "started" it is wholy irrelevant.

someone could have shit in their cheerios for all we give a damn.

The point still remains the reconstruction usurped, that means STOLE the property rights of the people and transferred them to the states and fed wherein they declared themselves sovereign and still are today.  You know those old outdated articles of confederation notwithstanding!  puke!


in fact I think the feds should walk into your place tomorrow and empty it out to set your products free.

Then you would have a clue how the south felt.  DUH






LOL. Make war on the government, you better win then.

To the victor belong the spoils.




Real0ne -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/2/2011 2:57:44 PM)

I cant even imagine how you came to your make war on the guv position, but now that you mentioned it, it was the gubafia in fact that made war on the people of the south who were within in their property rights and the feds breach of the articles of confederation was in fact justification for the south to void the union.

OI course might makes right so contracts dont count.  Just ask the indian, the people whos rights have been aboished, the mexicans and anyone else who was foolish enough to make a deal with the gubafia.




Real0ne -> RE: "Gov. Perry sounds like Jefferson Davis" (9/3/2011 9:14:31 AM)

and my point was that we have politicians running for office that do not know the first damn thing about either the constitution or history of this country.  They are lucky to know how to change the stanky shorts at the end of the day much less administrate the biz of a country




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