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iliv2servher -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 5:31:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GeekFreak

I see things like this all over the place. I really have no idea what it's supposed to mean, but I've never seen it until visiting here. Would anyone mind explaining the purpose and meaning of this?


GeekFreak,

I have seen it used by some and not by others.  I usually take the lead from the dominant when addressing them.  However, I personally am too anal-retentive (no, not that way) to use it because I have had some journalistic training and it doesn't follow the rules of popular useage outside of this scene.

I believe some doms/dommes consider the use of caps and lower-case distinctions as a sign of respect.  But then respect can be exhibited in other ways that are not quite so controversial.

-iliv2servHer




juliaoceania -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 5:33:13 PM)

I was just making fun.. I have capitalized things too... my One, my former Dom...and I even read the posts that have A/all and E/everyone..... It really doesnt bug me, and I do not care what people write like. It is all good to me... or is that A/all good...smiles... some feel they are being respectful by doing that, and what is wrong with being respectful?




slavejali -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 5:40:25 PM)

Its actually laziness... instead of writing out in entirety... "Dear masters, mistressses, tops, bottoms, dominants, dommes, submissives, slaves, switches, gender benders and other general kinky freaks"... you can simply write.. "Dear A/all"  *grin*




juliaoceania -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 5:44:36 PM)

I have been known for my shortcuts and other lazy things I have attempted to do... But I just cut to the chase and start writing...lol. I am not even polite enough to do an A/all.

I find myself in a pickle when referring to a sub slave...will I offend them if I capitalize their nic? I kinda solve this problem by referring to them as they have their nic capitalized or not capitalized on their profile. Doms I tend to capitalize their nics... I do take some care for politeness I suppose.




preciousgem -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 6:12:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

A "chatism"!  I love that.  It is a silly little affectation that people who play online dabble in.  I am sure there is someone who will come along and in a long winded post claim it decended from the ancient greeks or some other nonsense, but till then, it is something online people to so they can pretend they are doing D/s.



i would like to know how doing the A/all is pretending that they are doing D/s? please tell me how You got that info.




mistoferin -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 6:38:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom
I am sure there is someone who will come along and in a long winded post claim it decended from the ancient greeks or some other nonsense.


I know that I'm not supposed to reveal this and will probably pay for it with my life, but this was actually started in 1468 by the first Templar Knight who became associated with the Priory of Scion. I feel much better now that is finally off my chest....even if it does mean that I will have to live in hiding from this day forward. Gosh, I wish I had paid more attention when I was young and my brother was trying to teach me that "Hide and Seek" game.




RSWingman -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 6:53:39 PM)

Yes, just for the sake of consistancy, I'm doing it the traditional way:

It's no more laziness, than to say "all" instead of listing everyone individually.  If anything, it's going to a lot more trouble, to be conscientious of the "D/s-proper" capitalization.  It's what I call "D/s form".  It acknowledges one's place in the "pecking-order".  And yes, one does get used to it (to the point that it interferes with the traditional way).  Depends on how much time one spends typing one way or the other.

When you see something like "M/me", that usually indicates that the person is a S/switch.  "A/all" acknowledges E/everyone, Dominant or submissive (and not that everyone is a S/switch.  As a S/switch, who leans toward the submissive side, I usually sign my lifestyle-related stuff this way:  m/Myname, indicating that the submissive side is heavier.  This is only a personal choice, and I doubt that even the strictest "D/s-form Police" would have a problem with that. 

But some "circles" and Dominants, simply expect the submissives to acknowledge their place, by only trying to be consistant in this form.  (It certainly can't hurt if you're vying for the attentions of a certain Dominant).  I doubt they'd get in trouble for missing one here and there; it's more about the effort of "respect".  Yes, it can help to enhance feelings of humility.  Imagine, if you had to address your Dominant always, using this form.  It's a constant reminder of your place.  It doesn't allow you to forget.  And if you start missing too many, They're gonna call you on it.  There's hardly a worse feeling than as though you've somehow failed Someone you respect.  But expectations are subjective.

Literary propriety teaches us that "I" (the author) am ALWAYS more important than everyone else (why else do we capitalize it?  But then we don't capitalize "me".  Looks like a Subject/object issue.  But no, the subject isn't always capitalized either.  What's up with that?  Other than to be literarily proper (because that's how you were taught), have you ever asked yourself why you are supposedly, by default, more important than everyone who will read you (but only if you're the subject)?

Well, I'm a literary rebel:  I try to do what feels most right for me, and screw the "Professors"; and I try to be as consistent as practical.  I have my own style that evolves.  I usually capitalize words like Parents, & Police (besides, "proper" names and titles ARE supposed to be capped).  I do try to reserve my capitalization, to indicate contrasts in D/s relationships (and I mean in everyday vanilla life; not just lifestyle).

Since I'm not "out" about my lifestyle, I have to juggle the two forms, according to whom I'm speaking.  And sometimes, when typing something that's intended for vanilla eyes, I'll intentionally leave "i" lowercase, just to perhaps inspire people to think.  They'll check the rest of my spelling and form, and see that it's correct, "so why does he leave the 'i' lowercase?"

r/RS




RSWingman -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 7:05:47 PM)

BTW:  I wasn't sure to whom I was supposedly replying, as I am obviously new to forums.  My intent was to just put-up another parrallel post.

r/RS




RSWingman -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 7:12:38 PM)

Ah; I think I'm getting the hang of this:

No; "S/she" would imply that "she" is a S/switch.

As a s/Switch who leans toward the submissive side, I sign my name with the lowercase first.  I doubt anyone would mind.

r/RS





ladyseekinglord -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 9:36:38 PM)

my First had asked me to use that style of capitilaztion in my communications with Him.  The following link talks about its origin. 

http://www.domsub.info/historical.html

lady




feastie -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 9:42:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: CrappyDom
I am sure there is someone who will come along and in a long winded post claim it decended from the ancient greeks or some other nonsense.


I know that I'm not supposed to reveal this and will probably pay for it with my life, but this was actually started in 1468 by the first Templar Knight who became associated with the Priory of Scion. I feel much better now that is finally off my chest....even if it does mean that I will have to live in hiding from this day forward. Gosh, I wish I had paid more attention when I was young and my brother was trying to teach me that "Hide and Seek" game.


You could always wander over to the Deal or No Deal thread and see if you can pick up million bucks for having a sex change.  Then you'd be hidden and you'd have a little extra pocket money.




Eroticsoulcatchr -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 9:46:56 PM)

Who really cares if the name is capped or not, anyone with any sense would realize that even despite protocol has to know whats really in the heart.

Just because some Doms do it because it "shows their place," I still feel its as bad as some one who types "u" or "r" etc in emails or in chat etc, and usually I cross them off my list. 

I believe, and even though this post is not exactly grammatically correct, in use of proper English to the best of my ability, so there for if you are another dominant, don't expect me to cap your pronoun just because of that. I have  better things to do with my time then pressing a shift key....

In all seriousness, its whats in your mind, heart and soul, not about upper or lower case.




FelinePersuasion -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 10:09:42 PM)

No it implies the dominant is mentioned first and the sub or slave later Dom/sub

quote:

ORIGINAL: RSWingman

Ah; I think I'm getting the hang of this:

No; "S/she" would imply that "she" is a S/switch.

As a s/Switch who leans toward the submissive side, I sign my name with the lowercase first.  I doubt anyone would mind.

r/RS






MsMacComb -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 11:50:14 PM)

I/i think its a R/royal pain in M/my ass. Especially when it comes to a fickle chronically vacillating switch with bipolar and multiple personalites. [:)]




RSWingman -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/21/2006 11:50:23 PM)

I don't doubt at all, that it serves that purpose as well, but if it only meant Dom before sub, we wouldn't cap the Dom, and not the sub.

I was referring to it's use in singular pronouns such as he, she, her, him.  When one sees "S/she", the only thing that I can think of it signifying, is that "she" is a switch.

r/RS




RSWingman -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/22/2006 12:45:01 AM)

quote:

Who really cares if the name is capped or not, anyone with any sense would realize that even despite protocol has to know whats really in the heart.

Just because some Doms do it because it "shows their place," I still feel its as bad as some one who types "u" or "r" etc in emails or in chat etc, and usually I cross them off my list. 

I believe, and even though this post is not exactly grammatically correct, in use of proper English to the best of my ability, so there for if you are another dominant, don't expect me to cap your pronoun just because of that. I have  better things to do with my time then pressing a shift key....

In all seriousness, its whats in your mind, heart and soul, not about upper or lower case.


Looks like someone took me more seriously than I take all this.

First:  A guy had a question, and my primary focus has been to give him a good explanation.  Like I said, I'm a grammatical rebel; I do what works for me.

But if i should take the attitude, "who cares about a stupid shift-key", and it should turn-out that most Dominants are impressed by such a subtle gesture, i will possibly pay the price of being overlooked for someone who made that extra effort.  I'd say it's just the opposite of someone who types "u" or "r".  It's a show of effort.

We can't do what it is that we do 24/7 or over distance, so we look for little things that we can do, that remind us. 

And what would happen if all men started to say "flowers?  How stupid; they serve no useful purpose, and they die"?  I know; some Women will contend that it's already happening now.

Long story short:  I do it because I choose to, and because it helps to make distinctions & clarifications that would otherwise, probably not be picked-up in text; not because i'm a doormat.  Just by the way I sign my name, it tells others who recognize it, how I identify.  If I didn't want to, I wouldn't.  And I don't have that expectation of anyone else.

Otherwise (for me), consistency is good practice.

r/RS




KatyLied -> RE: What's up with the S/she A/all, ect? (5/22/2006 5:42:18 AM)

I find slash speak to be one of the more annoying things I've encountered here.  




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