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Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 2:37:41 PM)


Here is what some people said about Obamas touching speech, calling for more civility and a "new tone" in national discourse in the wake of the Gabby Giffords shooting:

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This was just what the nation needed: Obama's Tucson address will be remembered as "one of his best moments," says Nate Silver in The New York Times, "almost regardless of what else takes place during the remainder of his presidency." This was the first tragedy of its kind in the "Twitter Age," and from the moment the news broke people jumped to conclusions about the killer's motivations. Obama rose above it all and played the role of the "adult," which was sorely needed.
"A few reflections on Obama's speech in Tucson"

Obama rose to the occasion: What made the speech great was that it rose above politics, says Jennifer Rubin in The Washington Post. In fact, "it was pretty close to a rebuke to his liberal supporters. He was telling them, and everyone, that the entire process of casting blame for a lunatic's crime is foolhardy and simply wrong." Obama "deserves credit" for that, and for reminding us that, in times of tragedy, we should seek comfort in scripture, not in finger pointing.
"Arizona memorial: It's not about politics"

It was moving, but still fell short: "There were genuine moments of inspiration, no question," says Noam Scheiber in The New Republic. "Obama often shines in uniter mode," and who could fail to be moved when he called on us to live up to the expectations of Christina Taylor Green, the 9-year-old who was born on Sept. 11, 2001, and died Saturday in Tucson? But by stopping short of mentioning some of the things that can help us turn this tragedy to good — better mental health care, tighter gun control — "Obama's otherwise eloquent speech left me a bit unsatisfied."
"Obama's moving but ultimately unsatisfying speech"

It was Obama's best speech ever — but it was just a speech: "President Obama delivered a brilliant, spellbinding, and fitting speech about the Tuscon shootings," says Paul Mirengoff in Power Line. His tribute to the victims was nearly "perfect," and his call for civility was welcome. But, remember, "his lack of graciousness towards his predecessor, his references to enemies, and so forth has set a poor tone indeed" — so this was "was a terrific speech, not a conversion."
"The president's speech"

Nice words, but they were overpowered by the crowd reaction: Obama's words "were beautiful and moving and powerful," says John Podhoretz in the New York Post. But Obama couldn't transcend the "wildly inappropriate" cheers from the crowd and overall "sophomoric" setting. "Even Obama's lovely peroration about little Christina Green — 'I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she imagined it' — was greeted by the listeners as though they were delegates at a political convention, rather than attendees at a memorial service."
"Prez perfect — but the crowd was appalling"

This was one for the history books: The "standard comparisons" for Obama's response to this tragedy "have been to Ronald Reagan after the Challenger disaster and Bill Clinton after Oklahoma City," says James Fallows in The Atlantic. Obama's speech "matched those as a demonstration of 'head of state' presence, and far exceeded them as oratory." Reagan and Clinton did a fine job helping the nation memorialize and cope with tragic loss. "Obama turned this into a celebration — of the people who were killed, of the values they lived by, and of the way their example could bring out the better in all of us and in our country."


"Why the Tucson speech succeeded"


Was Jimmy Hoffa introducing the same president?

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Warming up the crowd before President Obama’s Labor Day speech in Detroit this afternoon, Hoffa warned the largely union crowd that the Tea Party was waging a “war on workers.”

“We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We’re going to win that war,” Hoffa told thousands of workers gathered for the annual event organized by the Detroit Labor Council.

“President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march…Everybody here’s got a vote…Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” he concluded.


Or maybe Joe Biden can carry through with the "new tone" ideals that Obama preached in Tuscon

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Biden At AFL-CIO Rally: "You Are The Only Folks Keeping The Barbarians From the Gates" (Video)


The opposition is called "son of a bitches" at one Labor rally and "barbarians" at another rally. Here's an angry Joe Biden at the AFL-CIO rally in Cincinnati Monday afternoon



http://www.hapblog.com/2011/09/biden-at-afl-cio-rally-you-are-only.html


Or maybe not




Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 2:39:31 PM)


That was pretty lame and old by about about the hundredth time you posted it

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

[image]http://www.stargazertwo.com/Database/Scotty/James_Doohan_1980s.jpeg[/image]
Capn, the Ironicator cannae take anymore
The bullshit sensors are overloadin tae





farglebargle -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 2:50:53 PM)

Have I really compromised your thinking so badly that you're going to invoke the gas chambers and ovens which decimated my family?

Not cool, bitch. Not cool.

Why don't you just bail out now before you get yourself banned.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Yeah, I know kid. Anyone who dares to think differently than you far left loonies do is real, real bad... so what are you waiting for. Open the camps and fire the ovens already

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Can we all just take a deep breath and remember who the real bad guy here is....

Sanity.






Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 2:54:40 PM)


I make no apologies for pointing out how you have become the monster, kid.

You are one sick puppy, seek help.





farglebargle -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 2:59:18 PM)

You think I need help, and yet in your world the man who points out the cold, hard facts counter to your delusions is "the monster"...

Well, unfortunately, we all know that's how your addiction works.

Even though it's irrational, you're going to still feel persecution.

I don't know. Do you think that's why you keep returning to the needle?

Since you haven't told us how long you've been clean, we'll have to assume that you're still using right now?

I think everyone agrees that until you seek treatment for your addiction, you should probably not bother coming around.

I know it's harsh, but we need to be clear about this stuff when talking to an addict like yourself.

Get clean and then you can come back. Keep using your junk and you can go fuck yourself.





Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 3:02:41 PM)


How old are you anyway. 12? 14?

Regardless, thanks for your help, no one helps the conservative cause more than people like you.

Seriously, thank you. For all that you do.




farglebargle -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 3:04:02 PM)

Look, I'm serious here. I know you want to stay 'in character' and play this as some sort of lib v con thing, but it's time for you to drop that act and confront your addiction squarely in the face.

You know that. This ain't your first rodeo, of course.




tazzygirl -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 3:35:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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I see... the presidents use if street drugs makes him a better class of druggie. That Limbaugh became addicted while treating back pain makes him a lower class druggie.

And you are strictly non partial, too... 


A druggie is an addict.. proven in rush boys case.


Now making up her own definitions.


Rofl.... you two cant even answer an easy question.

druggie

a habitual drug user.

http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-of/druggie

Substance dependence
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Druggie)

Drug addiction is a state of periodic or chronic intoxication produced by the repeated consumption of a drug (natural or synthetic). Its characteristics include: (i) an overpowering desire or need (compulsion) to continue taking the drug and to obtain it by any means; (ii) a tendency to increase the dose; (iii) a psychic (psychological) and generally a physical dependence on the effects of the drug; and (iv) detrimental effects on the individual and on society.


.............

In 2001, the American Academy of Pain Medicine, the American Pain Society, and the American Society of Addiction Medicine jointly issued "Definitions Related to the Use of Opioids for the Treatment of Pain", which defined the following terms:[3]

Addiction is a primary, chronic, neurobiologic disease, with genetic, psychosocial, and environmental factors influencing its development and manifestations. It is characterized by behaviors that include one or more of the following: impaired control over drug use, compulsive use, continued use despite harm, and craving.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druggie

As evidenced by rush boys habitual dr shopping to get more.

Not just my definition. [;)]




Lucylastic -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 3:41:26 PM)

of course the legal ramifications of the druggies use are totally less troublesome too, because, ermmm ermmmm....hes a republican?? or wealthy? DO they have different dictionaries than the rest of the world?
[8|]




tazzygirl -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 3:42:51 PM)

Obviously they must... for the rich and insane. [;)]




Hillwilliam -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 3:43:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Regardless, thanks for your help, no one helps the Liberal cause more than people like you.

Seriously, STFU. For all that you do.


I fixed it. From someone who is conservative.




Lucylastic -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 3:48:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Regardless, thanks for your help, no one helps the Liberal cause more than people like you.

Seriously, STFU. For all that you do.


I fixed it. From someone who is conservative.

Im feeling some big handsome conservative COCK love here




Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 4:06:04 PM)


Look at this thread. Look at the Orwell thread, and ask yourself what is being presented for discussion here.

I initially posted a news article detailing how despite the lovely theater of Obamas flowery speeches and his partys charade of pretending to be tolerant, open-minded liberals, todays Democrats are anything BUT tolerant, open-minded OR liberal.

But I am running into some resistance here, leftists are denying the over-the-top obvious facts the article in the OP presents.

Hmm. Hoffas hate speech wasnt hate speech? Really? [8|]

So what better than a living breathing demonstration.?

Enter farglebargle, stage right.. [:D]

You wrote that I am "a real bad guy" farglebargle.

For daring to speak my mind? For offering an opinion differing from the dictates of the far left, correct?

And tell us, if I am a real bad guy... what should society do with "real bad guys" as you say. 

Show us your hate, farglebargle. Keep it up, because I can describe the far lefts hate, I can post news articles and describe the madness and the seething hatred of the far left.

But having you, and some of the other haters who are much like you posting here, is pretty much priceless.

So thank you once again, you make a fine specimen demonstrating the hate and intolerance of the far left towards dissenting thought and behavior.

You underscore the premise of my OP far better than I ever could alone, and make the point for me that the far left must be limited in the power they are allowed by voters.

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Look, I'm serious here. I know you want to stay 'in character' and play this as some sort of lib v con thing, but it's time for you to drop that act and confront your addiction squarely in the face.

You know that. This ain't your first rodeo, of course.




Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 4:10:12 PM)


I would prefer he didnt shut up, so I fixed it again

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Regardless, thanks for your help, no one helps the conservative cause more than people like you.

Seriously, keep on posting farglebargle, all the ugly hatred that you do.

Show us what the left is all about, youre the man!


I fixed it. From someone who is conservative.




farglebargle -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 5:08:18 PM)

See what addiction does, I'm trying to do what I can to have an intervention of sorts, and the addict is all "Show us your hate..." When the addict is in denial, everyone is their enemy...

It's not hate that makes me try to get you to stop using. It's compassion for my fellow-man. Normally I have no problem dishing it with you, but it's unfair and unkind to beat on someone who is handicapped by their use of opiates, and since you can't even tell us how long you've been clean for, it's obvious you're still using.

Go get the help you need, and when you're clean for a while come back.




thompsonx -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/11/2011 8:08:08 PM)

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I'm sure the soldiers and vets will really appreciate suddenly running out of bullets and gasoline, then being told they won't be paid. Let alone the other government funded initiatives


Perhaps if they were not involved in wars of agression and agrandisment they would not need bullets or fuel.




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