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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 9/14/2011 12:53:30 AM   
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I didn't mind reading over this thread at all. Even when the OP said some obnoxious commentary. The topic of cumming is enjoyable. Cumming hard is great. But wow! a breath right strip for a blow job? That's fucking genius! I need to read quotes more often.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 9/14/2011 8:50:46 AM   
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Female ejaculation is believed to originate in the Skene's gland. It is not clear that all women have a Skene's gland, or at least a functional Skene's gland. Women who do not possess a functional Skene's gland are not physically capable of ejaculating, which might explain the variation you are seeing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene%27s_gland

Talk to your Sub. Assuming you understand the anatomy and know what you are doing, she simply may not be capable of squirting. It's not the end of Rome if she can't.



Yep, and the skene gland is only small and can only at best produce a couple of ounces of fluid.
I recall one set of research where the women 'all squirters' had their bladders drained and catheterized before being stimulating into squirting. Some of the women excreted small amounts of milky-white fluid from the urethra outside of the catheter tube. Others expelled something like 900 ml straight into the catheter bag but how could this be so if their bladders had been drained? They concluded that this large amount of fluid must of come from post draining kidney output. The fluid in the catheter bags was tested and all results were consistent. The concentration was greatly reduced making the fluid clear and odorless. It was lacking creatine and urea (two components normally found in urine).
It wasn't strictly urine but an altered form of urine from a chemical process that goes on when a woman's being sexually stimulated.

So is a large gush ejaculation fluid or piss? its probably both but the piss is clear and odorless through chemical change during sexual excitement.


More and more women are bragging, (I blame it on the porn industry) about how much they squirt. Its no longer about being able to ejaculate, its about how much you can ejaculate! If you can’t produce a tidal wave then you simply aren’t doing it right!!
I don’t see a problem with a gush containing diluted urine but it seems that many women do.

What I don't understand is, the amount of men and women who adamantly insist there is no urine mixed in with this huge output of ejaculation fluid (is that because they think urine is dirty?) and that all of this fluid has come out of some magic pouch, when every researcher working specifically on this subject will tell you otherwise. One scene gland researcher recently said, even if it were possible for the scene glands to swell to half pint capacity, the pain and discomfort would be unbearable
but more importantly, the damage to the urethra would be irreparable.

I don't think we should be overly convinced by watching porn. Commercial porn is all smoke and mirrors. There is big money to be made in delivering a fantasy in cinematic form. When it comes to squirting, what most camera girls produce is a steady stream of liquid (urine) that they break up and make gushy, by a patting motion of the hand. Insertions and expert patting can make that pee look like ‘explosions’



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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 9/14/2011 9:41:53 AM   
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I went through this exact thing with my former Master. He would try and I would pull away from it thinking I had to pee. He would make me go try to pee, only to find that I couldn't and then he'd try again. Each time I failed miserably at just letting go and allowing him to take that from me; to take me to that place.

UNTIL....

I was bound! (Which I found works wonders for me at breaking down walls)
Hisfreedom thank you for this---it only proves that just because one person says, " Um, fella, if you've got a lady that's afraid to squirt for whatever reason, restraining them and forcing them will ensure that you will never see her again.  And if you care about your local rep, you'd never do something stupid like push her to do something that's a limit with no concern for her. "  That doesn't mean it's a right answer.   We all work, react and do things differently in our personal lives and relationships.   If we all did things the one TRUE way we might as well be friggen robots.  

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 9/14/2011 6:38:24 PM   
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I went through this exact thing with my former Master. He would try and I would pull away from it thinking I had to pee. He would make me go try to pee, only to find that I couldn't and then he'd try again. Each time I failed miserably at just letting go and allowing him to take that from me; to take me to that place.

UNTIL....

I was bound! (Which I found works wonders for me at breaking down walls)
Hisfreedom thank you for this---it only proves that just because one person says, " Um, fella, if you've got a lady that's afraid to squirt for whatever reason, restraining them and forcing them will ensure that you will never see her again.  And if you care about your local rep, you'd never do something stupid like push her to do something that's a limit with no concern for her. "  That doesn't mean it's a right answer.   We all work, react and do things differently in our personal lives and relationships.   If we all did things the one TRUE way we might as well be friggen robots.  


Read her quote again...it does not say she was forced, only bound. I take that as she was bound of her own free will. A lot of subs understand that when they are bound, they might encounter situations that they will have no control over, but they still AGREE to be bound, thereby giving consent to whatever takes place, unless otherwise specified. I see a difference between that and actually being forced.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 9/15/2011 4:59:23 AM   
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The point is people have different ways of doing things.   Some people MIGHT be into the whole forced thing.    I am just saying that people have different ways of doing things---it may work fine for some people and may not work for another.   There just isn't one TRUE way.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 9/15/2011 6:57:27 AM   
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I agree there isn't one true way, but I just can't wrap my mind around the use of true force in a relationship. If someone has truly lived this way and actually been happy with it, I would be very interested in talking with them so I can better understand it from both the dominant's view as well as the sub's.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 9/15/2011 7:21:40 AM   
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I used to be very weird about anal sex,   due to a really bad experience with another partner.  So although I liked it---I would get tense nervous and would fight being penetrated that way after the bad experience.   My first Dom literally forced it on me---he was gentle, not being an asshole, but there was no way I was able to get out of his hold and flee from it.    It got me over the tense nervous feelings and we were able to have anal sex afterwards with no issues.     Yes it was forced but I trusted this guy---it's sort of like teaching someone to ride a bike---"Are ya holding on Daddy,"--"Yep."---"Don't let go Daddy."---"I won't...you are doing it you are doing it and I am not holding on."   You force that child to let go of their fears and ride that bike.   

That is how I took the OP.   Not force as in gun to your head---but---tied up--and c'mon baby you can do it--it's okay---no no I can't---yes you can---(she can't get away so it happens.)   I think the word force may have been taken a bit too literally.  

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 9/15/2011 7:40:54 PM   
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Ok, the way you explained it is a little different than what I was visualizing, and I apologize for misunderstanding.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/4/2011 4:55:37 PM   
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I used to have this problem too and still will make myself stop before I squirt because I don't want to clean my bedsheets.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/5/2011 6:12:56 PM   
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All you have to do is buy a square hospital pad and put it on top of your sheets, they're about 3x3 or so, completely waterproof underneath and you won't have to worry about a wet spot on your bed.  I've got one and it's great.  Most medical supply places associated with pharmacies carry them and I don't think they're too expensive.  

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/5/2011 7:14:57 PM   
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thanks for the replys, some good and bad replys lol! i have had gal in the past use a towel so incase they feel the urge or feeling of pee there comfortable with it and they let themselves go although people here like me know its not pee to start with.
darksteven your an idiot, i guess you have never had a real sub/slave in your life lol.
making a slave do what you want is half there fun and yours! i guess when you realize that you have 17000 post here like a chronic masterbater lmao you have no real life!. tantriqua you sound like you have experience and not an idiot in the squirting/cumming time experience thanks!
sorry but i have not ever met a gal that couldnt squirt yet, i guess im just a real dom asshole, id say 90% never knew they could have an orgasm or squrit period that good and are happy to finally have a really nice squirting orgasm that i will lick clean and love it.


What an arragant p.o.s. you are. I seriously doubt you ever leave your keyboard.
and for the record. Ive never squirted .. not ever.

In fact I rarely cum when having sex. But only due to the fact that most men are complete nightmares in bed .. so much so, that I could seriously fall asleep. And the funny part about it, is that they think they are so fucking cool and are such rockstars ... kind of just like the bullshit you brag about.

Ive found through experience .. the bigger the brag .. the bigger the bore.

Now there are the few exceptions that have made my eyes roll back into my skull, and I promise you .. you wouldnt catch them dead mentioning shit like youve posted. Not even close.

Have fun jerking off.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/5/2011 7:42:25 PM   
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sorry but i have not ever met a gal that couldnt squirt yet,


That's because you haven't met many. It's a medical fact that not all women can squirt.

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i guess im just a real dom asshole,


The dom part of your statement is suspect.

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id say 90% never knew they could have an orgasm or squrit period that good and are


so your sample pool is what...10?

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happy to finally have a really nice squirting orgasm that i will lick clean and love it.


Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/24/2011 9:23:57 AM   
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Pee on her first. Then she will understand it's okay. :-)

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/24/2011 9:40:43 AM   
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Pee on her first. Then she will understand it's okay. :-)


brilliant advice... love it.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/24/2011 10:07:01 AM   
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forcing them to go through with it

In the first place, forcing someone sexually is rape. Secondly, it's also the best way to make sure she leaves you and never comes back AND an excellent way to ruin your reputation in the local community so no one will have anything to do with you. CONSENSUAL bondage and FORCING are two DIFFERENT things.

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ORIGINAL: scdom4submissive
darksteven your an idiot, i guess you have never had a real sub/slave in your life lol.

I can tell you here that you are SO WRONG on BOTH counts.

quote:

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im just a real dom asshole

You're partly right, but I question the "dom" part. The rest I'd say is pretty accurate statement.

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i have not ever met a gal that couldnt squirt yet, i guess im just a real dom asshole

I'm sorry your sex life is so lacking. There are many women out there who don't squirt. There are are some that do and some that do only part of the time.

Also, to come on here asking a question and then insult people who are giving you good answers is just B.S. You don't get to pick what kind of answers you're going to get. Put on your big boy panties and deal with it Mister. You're too full of yourself. Why not grow up and stop hiding your profile. You're insulting DarkSteven yet you don't have the nuts to come out of hiding.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/24/2011 1:51:22 PM   
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sorry but i have not ever met a gal that couldnt squirt yet, i guess im just a real dom asshole, id say 90% never knew they could have an orgasm or squrit period that good and are happy to finally have a really nice squirting orgasm that i will lick clean and love it.


I'm incapable of coming from a man's actions. Trust me... I am... I've certainly tried enough times.

However, with the +250 lovers I've had, I've had plenty like you who think that every woman MUST be able to come and set out on this "mission" to make it happen.
It's fucking annoying, and insulting, and EVERY time it ended up with me finally giving in, faking it, and leaving the guy to think that he's the first one who ever managed to get it done.
It also resulted in me not enjoying sex with them at all, and no longer seeking it out.

So if you're really convinced that you've made every gal you've been with come... think again...
My bet is that most of them think that you're an immature, self-obsessed freak, who has no consideration whatsoever for what THEY like to do in bed...

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/26/2011 2:27:33 AM   
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Female ejaculation is something that has always fascinated me, but the more recent popular squirting porn videos are betraying the truth behind what female ejaculation actually is. It is no longer about being able to ejaculate but about how much you can squirt!

The milky ejaculate is not dependent on orgasm. It can appear at any time during sexual arousal. It is also not dependent on stimulation of the G-spot.
Some women will ejaculate only from the skenes glands (which are numerous but quite small and swell with fluid during arousal) The urethral sponge is made from the same materiel as the male prostate and just like males it manufactures acid phosphatase and PSA during arousal. This fluid can then get expelled during sex, maybe orgasm, by the Skene's ducts into the urethra Some women will also gush post kidney output ( chemically changed diluted urine during arousal) This large volume of fluid has been analyzed in scientific studies and is shown to contain prostatic fluid. It neither looks, smells or tastes like urine but that is not to say it isn't chemically changed urine.

Some people get very upset if you mention the word 'piss' they don't even like the sound of 'chemically changed piss' and insist that all this fluid comes directly out of the urethral sponge (skenes glands) . During arousal things get compressed in this area, as all the organs are engorging with blood and the uterus raises up in the body cavity. The urethral sponge doesn't get a lot of room to grow in size and so its impossible for large amounts of fluid to be stored in the Skene's glands without it looking like the woman has a large orange in her vagina and that we know would be rather obvious and somewhat uncomfortable.
It can't be stored in the urethral sponge either (not for long anyway) and so any female ejaculate needs to be manufactured during arousal.

Unfortunately, thanks to porn, female ejaculation has become more about how much you squirt than can you squirt. Contrary to popular belief women can't squirt on demand and so squirting porn is made up of a lot of smoke and mirrors. There is big money to be made in delivering a fantasy in cinematic form.
When it comes to squirting, what most camera girls produce is a steady stream of liquid (piss) that they break up and make gushy, by a patting motion of the hand and small insertables.
Many women ejaculate small amounts of milky fluid during arousal but because they have been conditioned to believe that ejaculation means squirting a large stream of liquid and not just a small damp patch, they often don't realize they have ejaculated at all.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/26/2011 3:07:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mysubhasatemper

Female ejaculation is believed to originate in the Skene's gland. It is not clear that all women have a Skene's gland, or at least a functional Skene's gland. Women who do not possess a functional Skene's gland are not physically capable of ejaculating, which might explain the variation you are seeing.



Hi mysubhasatemper, there is presently a lot of controversy around this. If women don't just ejaculate from the skene's gland but also from post kidney output, then in theory all women can ejaculate.
All women do have skene's glands but the larger ones that produce the prostate fluid that ejects itself through the urethral wall are, like you say, undeveloped in some women and so the ejaculation that we know and scientifically understand may not be possible. She can however still squirt without producing any prostate fluid.

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/26/2011 5:21:45 AM   
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It's cute that you think ur a real dom for forcing ur sub to cum. Go you!
Listen to what DarkSteven says, fucker. You might learn a thing or two. There is consensual "force" and there is "force". You imply the second, which, if correct, makes you a jackass, not a "real dom".

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RE: Squirting, gals have the fear of pee all over thems... - 11/26/2011 6:48:08 AM   
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You can't force anyone to squirt unless you sit on their belly when they are full of piss

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