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Sanity -> As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 3:48:35 PM)
From the Ready Fire Aim Dept quote: Looters Steal Gadhafi's weapons, including surface-to-air missiles... According to Peter Bouckaert, emergencies director at Human Rights Watch, the weapons the looters want most, and take first, are the SAMs. HRW estimates there are 20,000 surface-to-air missiles in Libya, and many of those are now missing. Some are recent Russian-made SAMs, capable of shooting down aircraft flying as high as 11,000 feet. "They have no military use in this war," said Bouckaert. "Gadhafi is not flying any airplanes, he's not flying any helicopters. So why are people looting these very powerful and dangerous missiles?" Bouckaert suggested that some of the looters might have other targets in mind. "They can be used to shoot down a civilian plane. That's what al Qaeda tried to do in Mombasa a few years ago." http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2281782&spid=

Termyn8or -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:01:23 PM)
Maybe they want to shoot down planes from other countries like the US. T^T

tolovetolaugh -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:02:11 PM)
They probably just want to sell them.

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:04:34 PM)
Whats a Russian Surface-To-Air missile that can shoot down an airplane at 11,000 feet worth on the black market these days

Lucylastic -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:09:19 PM)
What has this got to do with politics? Is Obama going to lob them at republicans from the whitehouse gardens? it is all his fault right?

tolovetolaugh -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:11:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Whats a Russian Surface-To-Air missile that can shoot down an airplane at 11,000 feet worth on the black market these days Probably not as much if the markets going to get flooded. I bet you could get a discount if you bring your frequent black market buyers card.

Lucylastic -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:13:38 PM)
expensive bullets

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:15:33 PM)
You think theres a connection to Obama somehow? No! Say it aint so... [sm=doh.gif] Say... I have an idea! We can just PRETEND that Obama has no involvement in this. Kind of like the way so many leftists like to pretend that Social Security is solvent! [sm=lalala.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic What has this got to do with politics? Is Obama going to lob them at republicans from the whitehouse gardens? it is all his fault right?

Lucylastic -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:19:28 PM)
you have finally gone thru the floor to dementia....Im now putting you on ignore, im gonna have a hernia otherwise from laughing so hard [sm=danger.gif] [image]http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/8/26/128957908813535814.jpg[/image][sm=danger.gif][sm=dontfeedtrolls.gif][sm=Groaner.gif][sm=ignore.gif][sm=ignore.gif][sm=ignore.gif] OOOPs was laughing so hard I added the wrong linky...back to busting a gut

lovmuffin -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:20:19 PM)
Obama certainly could have anticipated this. Those are not the only nasty ass weapons to be had over there too .

rulemylife -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:31:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity You think theres a connection to Obama somehow? No! Say it aint so... [sm=doh.gif] Say... I have an idea! We can just PRETEND that Obama has no involvement in this. Kind of like the way so many leftists like to pretend that Social Security is solvent! [sm=lalala.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic What has this got to do with politics? Is Obama going to lob them at republicans from the whitehouse gardens? it is all his fault right? You are such a fucking hypocritical jackass. You continually applaud what you call Bush's liberation of Iraq while condemning our limited involvement in Libya, where not one American life has been lost. And I've asked you this repeatedly without an answer, why was it a liberation in Iraq but according to you it is not in Libya? Is it just a nicer dictatorship there?

TheHeretic -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:31:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh They probably just want to sell them. I don't take much comfort in that.

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 4:58:58 PM)
Who is hypocritical? Wasnt regime change supposed to be strictly verboten, in leftist politics? Oh yeah, all of that changed when it was Obamas idea... As to what is different - again, and I have explained this to you many times, we put boots on the ground Iin Iraq in order to secure Iraqs future as well as its weapons stockpiles, to the best of our ability Al-Qaeda went into Iraq after the fall of Baghdad (assuming it wasnt there before). But we were there to ensure that we were not just providing a new carte blanche playground for al-Qaeda or any other Islamafascist organizations. In Libya, we may as well have sent al-Qaeda an invitation to take over. What kind of plan is this, we topple their strongman dictator, and hope for the best - in the fucking Middle East? Pure insanity! And here are some of our chickens, coming home to roost. quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife You are such a fucking hypocritical jackass. You continually applaud what you call Bush's liberation of Iraq while condemning our limited involvement in Libya, where not one American life has been lost - yet. And I've asked you this repeatedly without an answer, why was it a liberation in Iraq but according to you it is not in Libya? Is it just a nicer dictatorship there? Edited to fyp

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 5:02:50 PM)
Ah, yes - cheap surface-to-air missiles. And plenty of them... quote: ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Whats a Russian Surface-To-Air missile that can shoot down an airplane at 11,000 feet worth on the black market these days Probably not as much if the markets going to get flooded. I bet you could get a discount if you bring your frequent black market buyers card.

DomKen -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 5:03:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity From the Ready Fire Aim Dept quote: Looters Steal Gadhafi's weapons, including surface-to-air missiles... According to Peter Bouckaert, emergencies director at Human Rights Watch, the weapons the looters want most, and take first, are the SAMs. HRW estimates there are 20,000 surface-to-air missiles in Libya, and many of those are now missing. Some are recent Russian-made SAMs, capable of shooting down aircraft flying as high as 11,000 feet. "They have no military use in this war," said Bouckaert. "Gadhafi is not flying any airplanes, he's not flying any helicopters. So why are people looting these very powerful and dangerous missiles?" Bouckaert suggested that some of the looters might have other targets in mind. "They can be used to shoot down a civilian plane. That's what al Qaeda tried to do in Mombasa a few years ago." http://www.wlsam.com/Article.asp?id=2281782&spid= Just a query, why didn't you post an outraged snarky post when the invasion of Iraq didn't secure all their weapons, including SAM's?

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 5:04:34 PM)
Cant say I will miss you. It will be nice to have a break from your mad cackling for a while...

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 5:05:45 PM)
See post #13, above. quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Just a query, why didn't you post an outraged snarky post when the invasion of Iraq didn't secure all their weapons, including SAM's?

DomKen -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 5:13:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity As to what is different - again, and I have explained this to you many times, we put boots on the ground Iin Iraq in order to secure Iraqs future as well as its weapons stockpiles, to the best of our ability Bullshit. It is well documented that there was no plan to secure even the known weapon and ammo dumps in Iraq. That's how the insurgents were able to use artillery shells to make the early IED's.

DarkSteven -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 5:15:04 PM)
Dude, do NOT use the same acronym as Smart Ass Masochists and expect my brain to think in terms of missiles.

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/10/2011 5:15:25 PM)
We made every effort in Iraq, despite your partisan blindness to the facts. And even if what you post is accurate, why didnt Obama learn from Iraq quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity As to what is different - again, and I have explained this to you many times, we put boots on the ground Iin Iraq in order to secure Iraqs future as well as its weapons stockpiles, to the best of our ability Bullshit. It is well documented that there was no plan to secure even the known weapon and ammo dumps in Iraq. That's how the insurgents were able to use artillery shells to make the early IED's.

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