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RavenMuse -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/21/2006 7:33:03 AM)

OK am I being dense here? If you are meaning chatting in the sense of simply talking to folks on-line like we do here on the forums.... why would I want to restrict her in any way? Quite the opposite unless she was neglecting other things by spending too much time on the net and needed some restriction then I would activly encourage her participation in places like this. Only the most insecure of people try to isolate a sub from other points of view and advice/opinions. Discussions in a place like this can lead to points being raised between us that might not otherwise be raised and that is something I think is good for a realtionship.

If however you mean Chatroom 'play' then it would be something requiring a lot of discussion. It isn't something I do or would get anything out of and I would have to understand why she wanted to in order to decide what if any limitations I wished to put on it.




yourMissTress -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/21/2006 7:39:03 AM)

I have no issue with a sub or slave chatting online with anyone. Unless it's taking away time that he needs for work, chores, or Me I could care less what they do online.




Arpig -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/21/2006 7:41:24 AM)

The only real issue I have with my Pet's online activities is that we have only 1 computer at the moment [:o][:@][:@]
Her profile states that she isn't allowed to chat without my ok, and that is basically to weed out the dweebs. So far I have not refused her the right to chat with anybody, and i doubt I ever will, unless that particular person is a right jackass.




slavejali -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/21/2006 8:14:33 AM)

Master doesnt like me chatting when He is at work, so I dont. We used to *chat* quite a bit, I think this was largely because Master is deaf and typed chats are a very easy social situation for him. These days however, we have just been too busy to chat online.

I think he likes me posting to the forums, he reads all my posts. Sometimes He will tell me to stop posting for awhile, or tell me a certain time limit I can spend reading postings, when he thinks im getting too wrapped up in it.

I wish he would post more to the forums, He has a wealth of knowledge and experience to share.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/21/2006 10:05:49 AM)

He met me online. When he took me as his trainee, he implemented chat rules for me. Why? Because i needed them. Because i was not a strong person then. Because he saw potential in me and wanted to protect me from myself. Because he knew my history. i was allowed to talk to any current friends i had. i was not allowed to IM with men i did not previously know. Period. No camming for other men, even friends. Not even a facial smile. He had his reasons, and i respected them and obeyed them. SO MANY people asked, "Gee, your Master must be insecure." "Gee, your Master must not trust you." (Okay they didn't actually say "gee"). my response? Thank God he knows me well enough, and cares about me enough to know exactly what i need and provide it.

Now i am free to chat whenever and with whomever. i just don't really want to much anymore. Most of the chat rooms i have gone to are filled with folks who can't handle the things we discuss in this forum.





amayos -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/21/2006 11:43:00 AM)

While I take no issue with any property of mine making use of the internet for journaling and other such common things, I do from time to time limit their exposure to chat boards such as these. While there are many wise dominants and well-trained submissives making their mark in these forums, the majority hyper-inclusive, often politically correct 'everything is acceptable / it's all interpretation and reinvention' culture that is fostered at times in these communities trivializes structure and works to undermine the beginning foundations of slave training.

In MY world there is a right and a wrong way of doing things. Once a slave is complete in her education, she sees the difference clearly and is immune to the corrosive influence of the circus.









amayos -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/21/2006 12:27:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

He met me online. When he took me as his trainee, he implemented chat rules for me. Why? Because i needed them. Because i was not a strong person then. Because he saw potential in me and wanted to protect me from myself. Because he knew my history. i was allowed to talk to any current friends i had. i was not allowed to IM with men i did not previously know. Period. No camming for other men, even friends. Not even a facial smile. He had his reasons, and i respected them and obeyed them. SO MANY people asked, "Gee, your Master must be insecure." "Gee, your Master must not trust you." (Okay they didn't actually say "gee"). my response? Thank God he knows me well enough, and cares about me enough to know exactly what i need and provide it.

Now i am free to chat whenever and with whomever. i just don't really want to much anymore. Most of the chat rooms i have gone to are filled with folks who can't handle the things we discuss in this forum.




owned, again...dead on.




Littlepita -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/21/2006 4:36:32 PM)

I am allowed to chat with my friends. We did have an agreement that we wouldn't cyber of course. Once we are living together our computers will be in the same room so he will be able to see what I do whenever he wants. But, like others have said this is a relationship built on trust and I since I love him so much I have zero desire to go cybering or doing anything wrong with people online.




destinykitty -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/22/2006 7:23:45 AM)

Master allows me to chat online to whoever I want when i want as long as he doesn't want me for something else at that point in time. He sometimes plays onlines with subs and I sometimes with dom and we don't mind each other doing that as we see it as just a game and not real. Our computers sit next to each other so he can see what i am doing when ever he wants to and i csn see what he is doing. We really don't mind each other playing online as long as it never gets to phone or real life.

destinykitty




petcerina -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/22/2006 6:21:24 PM)

i'm allowed to go into chat rooms unless He has specified otherwise. However, i am not allowed to speak in PM to anyone-sub or Dom- without His approval. If someone wishes to speak to me, i ask them why and give their request and answer as to why they wish to speak to me to my Master for approval. If they are approved, they are usually added to my buddy list. This was done because i am not a good judge of character and i would add Doms as friends whose real purpose was to wait until it was their turn... which was never coming. i go into chat rooms less and less, but i still pop in every now and then.




Evanesce -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/22/2006 10:51:51 PM)

I chat with whomever I please. While I don't visit chatrooms much any more (I find them to be a complete waste of time, what with all the hellos and goodbyes and not much of anything else in between), I do belong to some 30-odd discussion groups, along with this forum. Master and I live together, and our computers are in the same office, but He's rarely home, and even more rarely online. While I've heard many slaves say their Owners will not allow them to speak with other Doms, or they can only speak to female submissives, or some other such thing, Master puts no restrictions on to whom I am allowed to speak. He knows I'm not going anywhere, and I'm simply too jaded to get excited over a few naughty words typed on a computer screen (I talk dirty better than most would-be cyber-wankers, anyway).

So I talk, and I post, and once in a while I put something on my blog. And once in a while I get a live one that just keeps hanging on - and then I send the IM to Master so He can get a good laugh, too.




Estring -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/23/2006 3:56:26 PM)

I completely trust my slave online. She is after all a slave, not a child. She is not real big into chatting anyway, but I don't see any reason why chatting would be a problem if you trust your slave. There are times when there are so called Doms who are so obviously chatting to her with one hand, we usually laugh at that and she terminates the chat.




MasterDaddy123 -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/27/2006 2:23:10 PM)

First, All My slaves live with ME in My Stable.

slaves earn tiem on the net and can only go onto the net with My permission and yes, I am right there next to them. They ask permission to to post or IM..tellling Me what they are going to say first. They can only speak to others with permission. I read ALL thier IMs and emails first before thay do.




BeingChewsie -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/27/2006 2:34:18 PM)

quote:

While I take no issue with any property of mine making use of the internet for journaling and other such common things, I do from time to time limit their exposure to chat boards such as these. While there are many wise dominants and well-trained submissives making their mark in these forums, the majority hyper-inclusive, often politically correct 'everything is acceptable / it's all interpretation and reinvention' culture that is fostered at times in these communities trivializes structure and works to undermine the beginning foundations of slave training.

In MY world there is a right and a wrong way of doing things. Once a slave is complete in her education, she sees the difference clearly and is immune to the corrosive influence of the circus.


I agree with you. Early on R limited my access to e-mail lists and forums. There was so much conflict. He wanted to shape and alter my beliefs and not have those be undermined early on. Now I'm rock-solid in the things he needed me to *get*. So now he has no issue with me being on lists and boards. In fact it tends to reinforce the things he has instilled. It was important to the enslavement process that I come to hold as a core belief that his way is the best way for me, the only way for me. I have no issue with an owner restricting his property from having inputs that he has not screened, to make sure that the content is consistent with his goals.




PlayfulOne -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/27/2006 3:40:24 PM)

I do not restrict my little one. She has friends she still keeps in touch with, she often finds others we might be interested in being friends with an emails them.

It is about trust for me, I trust her to conduct herself in a proper manner. When others make comments are ask questions they should not she reminds them she is owned and suggest they discuss their thoughts with me.

K




Evanesce -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/27/2006 4:06:57 PM)

quote:

slaves earn tiem on the net and can only go onto the net with My permission and yes, I am right there next to them. They ask permission to to post or IM..tellling Me what they are going to say first. They can only speak to others with permission. I read ALL thier IMs and emails first before thay do.


Why?

Please don't say, "Because I can," or "Because I'm the Master." I'd really like to know what drives some dominants to be this restrictive with their property.




Dragonzaymaster -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/27/2006 5:35:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterDaddy123


slaves earn tiem on the net and can only go onto the net with My permission and yes, I am right there next to them. They ask permission to to post or IM..tellling Me what they are going to say first. They can only speak to others with permission. I read ALL thier IMs and emails first before thay do.



May I ask if you are that worried what someone will say and the slaves reaction, would be so severe or detrimental.

I have experienced where the net can get out of hand. No less then RL can as well. Sometimes it is a mix of both.

As I have to tell myself this from time to time as well, I share it with all " If you don't or can't fully trust those in your household , someone has a problem and it needs to be resolved". Life is too short as it is, live to the fullest and the best. Be well.
Dragon




ownedgirlie -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/27/2006 5:57:33 PM)

Sometimes, and particularly with a new slave in training, it boils down to the Master not yet being secure in her judgment. If i had listened to all my "concerned friends" when initially in training with my Master...i would be in a much different place.

Maybe his view is unrealistic; Maybe not. But...sometimes i see us jump into a reply with an assumption that the slave is already trained and developed (at least it sometimes seems that way) and we forget that someone new in her/his training and might need extra supervision and attention.




amayos -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/27/2006 7:44:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

quote:

While I take no issue with any property of mine making use of the internet for journaling and other such common things, I do from time to time limit their exposure to chat boards such as these. While there are many wise dominants and well-trained submissives making their mark in these forums, the majority hyper-inclusive, often politically correct 'everything is acceptable / it's all interpretation and reinvention' culture that is fostered at times in these communities trivializes structure and works to undermine the beginning foundations of slave training.

In MY world there is a right and a wrong way of doing things. Once a slave is complete in her education, she sees the difference clearly and is immune to the corrosive influence of the circus.


I agree with you. Early on R limited my access to e-mail lists and forums. There was so much conflict. He wanted to shape and alter my beliefs and not have those be undermined early on. Now I'm rock-solid in the things he needed me to *get*. So now he has no issue with me being on lists and boards. In fact it tends to reinforce the things he has instilled. It was important to the enslavement process that I come to hold as a core belief that his way is the best way for me, the only way for me. I have no issue with an owner restricting his property from having inputs that he has not screened, to make sure that the content is consistent with his goals.


You described it perfectly. Your Master is very wise, and has trained you well.




HoosierScorpio -> RE: Chatting-Slaves (2/27/2006 8:02:28 PM)

I know allot who are in the lifestyle do not see the internet being real. So in their eyes it is ok to play and they do not need to show any respect. For some they act the same way on line as they do in person. I would expect my girl when and if I get her to show respect to every one on and off line at all times. I have use the net as a training ground before we meet in person. Some things on net open the door for discovery but I also have seen some girls play games on line.




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