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slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 11:17:48 AM)

Sgt.Dakota Meyer is to appear on the David Letterman show tomorrow night...another chance to take a bow.Maybe Leno can have him on later in the week....lol




slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 11:58:27 AM)

Sgt Dakota Meyer gets the 60 Minutes treatment tonight...good deal.




Masta808 -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 2:04:50 PM)

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That's just fuckin' stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopid.

Personally, I think that is the point. I happen to think he is satirizing ABM and Sanity, et al.

And kudos to the new MoH winner, an inspiring story indeed.



Well if you check the post I replied to, you will see that I posted long before I got to the end of the thread, back at the point where everybody was actually arguing with him. Sorry for not waiting till I got to the end to post. [sm=dunno.gif]


I guess its the first youve seen of Masta then...my bad. He's a confused little boy who thinks he's being clever, and cant even remember whether he's pretending to be conservative or liberal.


So I m a confused because according to you "I knowingly wrote satire" You should look up the word satire.


You might want to pick up a copy of "CM Boards for Dummies" and learn how to use it. I said no such thing.


You may want to pick "Debating for Dummies: How Personal Attacks is the Hallmark of losing a Debate"




Masta808 -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 2:10:06 PM)

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Is that little whiny troll bitch still posting here?

Y'all want a laugh. Go read his blog. All of it is a whinefest about all the fakes and cam whores and money subs and how he can't tell when people block him and the poor guy sends out bazillions of emails and can't get a reply.


POOOOOR widdle Twoll.


Resorting to cyber bullying I see. Good for you. and I thought leftist were trying to stop cyber bullying. As always leftist cant debate and will always result to bullying tactics and personal attacks. .


Then I guess Im not a leftist am I if they're the ones trying to eliminate bullying?

If you weren't so fucking stupid, you'd be more fun to abuse.


Ok then your no Conservative either. I suggest you should start listen to more Rush, Hannity, Beck, & O'Reilly and their talking points if you really want to be Conservative.


Once again, Ive never claimed to be conservative. Im an Independent. As for using the above 4 for talking points, sometimes I do and sometimes I use others.
You're not a conservative either. You're just a brainwashed little boy that does what some person on TV tells him to a right-wing 'sheeple' as it were. I think one of our more liberal posters calls them "Rushfelchers". You really should get out more. 2 days alone in your apartment without speaking to anyone isn't healthy mr 'kinky ninja'.[sm=rofl.gif]


More Personal Attacks, the mark that someone is unable to debate back or has no retort, used as deflection tactic.  Which apparently you dont and never did.





JstAnotherSub -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 2:14:02 PM)

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Sgt.Meyer,the first living Marine to be so honored for service in the Afghanistan or Iraqi conflict,received the Medal of Honor today at the White House.
I have nothing to add save to mention how moved I am by the telling of this man's bravery and unflinching courage.
21 years old when he performed his heroic deed.....God bless him and all of our other men and woman in uniform.
Amen




Hillwilliam -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 6:55:38 PM)


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More Personal Attacks, the mark that someone is unable to debate back or has no retort, used as deflection tactic.  Which apparently you dont and never did.



Not an attack. Just pointing out verifiable facts.

How's that BDSM mansion full of women making lesbian porn to pay your expenses coming along?




thompsonx -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 7:19:45 PM)

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You may want to pick "Debating for Dummies: How Personal Attacks is the Hallmark of losing a Debate"

You have already excused yourself from debate or discussion when you told us that your opinion and feelings were all that counted and that facts were not important to you.




Masta808 -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 7:31:42 PM)

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More Personal Attacks, the mark that someone is unable to debate back or has no retort, used as deflection tactic.  Which apparently you dont and never did.


Not an attack. Just pointing out verifiable facts.

How's that BDSM mansion full of women making lesbian porn to pay your expenses coming along?


So what does my person wants of having BDSM mansion full of women who do lesbian porn have anything to do with having a secret muslim anti-american kenyan born president awarding a medal to a true american soldier? Wait it doesnt. AKA a Personal Attack, the mark of a person who lost a debate.




Owner59 -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 7:36:21 PM)

A loser is someone who got booted from the boards for being a total jerk but sneaks back with a fake profile.




Masta808 -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 7:37:32 PM)

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You may want to pick "Debating for Dummies: How Personal Attacks is the Hallmark of losing a Debate"

You have already excused yourself from debate or discussion when you told us that your opinion and feelings were all that counted and that facts were not important to you.




So using an actual statement such as George W. Bush's statement on Harriet Miers about how we conservatives feel about proof when asked about proof isnt debating.  Someone needs to read Debating for Dummies: How to follow a debate.




TheHeretic -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/18/2011 8:58:13 PM)

I caught the 60 Minutes piece, Mike.  What a cluster-fuck.  Thank God for young Americans like this man, and those who were with him that day.





slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 7:29:08 AM)

Wasn't that a sobering piece Rich...American troops stripped of artillery and air support...that shit isn't supposed to happen.
Though I fully understand the viewpoint of the mothers,I don't think they understand what an official reprimand in their jacket actually means...it is a death knell to their careers....as was appropriate.




thompsonx -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 8:17:57 AM)

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So using an actual statement such as George W. Bush's statement on Harriet Miers about how we conservatives feel about proof when asked about proof isnt debating. Someone needs to read Debating for Dummies: How to follow a debate.


You have already excused yourself from debate or discussion when you told us that your opinion and feelings were all that counted and that facts were not important to you.





thompsonx -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 8:39:09 AM)


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Wasn't that a sobering piece Rich...American troops stripped of artillery and air support...that shit isn't supposed to happen.
Though I fully understand the viewpoint of the mothers,I don't think they understand what an official reprimand in their jacket actually means...it is a death knell to their careers....as was appropriate.




Rules of engagement mikey.
If you want to reprimand or court martial someone the appropriate person would be the one who issued the rules of engagement not the ones who followed them.
I did not get to see the 60 minutes piece so I have less data to deal with than you have but I have been wondering why the driver got the navy cross and the gunner got the moh?
Both responded to the primary directive (marines do not let other marines hang out to dry)while ignoring the secondary directive of "too dangerous,don't go". My understanding of the incident is they both did it, long deep and again.
Do you have any more data on this?




slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 9:32:55 AM)

Okay,first off the two officers reprimanded were found to be negligent in the performance of their duties....one for actually being absent,for period of time,from the command center.I assume this was not a ROE issue...as they were officially reprimanded.




slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 9:35:38 AM)

On the other issue...the driver would not have been as exposed as Sgt Meyer so less risk...no MoH instead the Navy Cross.Interestingly there is another Marine up for the Medal from the same action.....the delay is due to the fact that they lost the paperwork(as Rich said,what a clusterfuck).




thompsonx -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 10:16:00 AM)


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Okay,first off the two officers reprimanded were found to be negligent in the performance of their duties....one for actually being absent,for period of time,from the command center.I assume this was not a ROE issue...as they were officially reprimanded.


Yes I understand that they were reprimanded...(from my time in the service I also know that shit flows down hill and payday is on the 1st and the 15th). I only have bits and pieces I can find on the net. From the 60 minutes transcript of what sgt. meyer said the lt. had called for artillery support and was told that his position was too close to some non-combatants and that the fire support was prohibited by the roe. I am not trying to argue with you here, rather, I am relying on you for relevent data which I do not have.
thanx.




thompsonx -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 10:21:45 AM)


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On the other issue...the driver would not have been as exposed as Sgt Meyer so less risk...no MoH instead the Navy Cross.


It would seem that they were both in the same gun truck...unless the driver's armor is somehow better than the gunner's it would seem that the risk was the same.
I have no idea what the vehicle looks like or what the relative armor is for the two positions. I would be grateful for any additional data you can give me.
thanx




Hillwilliam -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 10:30:00 AM)


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On the other issue...the driver would not have been as exposed as Sgt Meyer so less risk...no MoH instead the Navy Cross.


It would seem that they were both in the same gun truck...unless the driver's armor is somehow better than the gunner's it would seem that the risk was the same.
I have no idea what the vehicle looks like or what the relative armor is for the two positions. I would be grateful for any additional data you can give me.
thanx


I THINK the gunners position is more exposed on an armored hummer, thompson. I also saw on one report that he repeatedly left the hummer to collect wounded men and pull them inside while the driver kept the engine going for a fast getaway as it were. Face it, the driver leaving his station would cause delay in getting the heck out of dodge. That might explain the difference in award status for the 2 men.




Hillwilliam -> RE: President Obama awards nations highest honor.... (9/19/2011 10:34:13 AM)


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More Personal Attacks, the mark that someone is unable to debate back or has no retort, used as deflection tactic.  Which apparently you dont and never did.


Not an attack. Just pointing out verifiable facts.

How's that BDSM mansion full of women making lesbian porn to pay your expenses coming along?


So what does my person wants of having BDSM mansion full of women who do lesbian porn have anything to do with having a secret muslim anti-american kenyan born president awarding a medal to a true american soldier? Wait it doesnt. AKA a Personal Attack, the mark of a person who lost a debate.


Both show that you watch too much niche porn and Right fringe media instead of getting out of your apartment and seeing what the big bright world is all about.
Both show that your touch with reality is tenuous. Get out and meet people for fucks sake. They aren't going to come to you.




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