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mnottertail -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 1:48:14 PM)

I understand, and the way you wove your points together to make it a reason to repeal Obamacare............

and you will find that nearly any nation (in the first world) is socio-democratic (which is socialist to you guys).

So if you post Duhs, like post 32 and then follow it up with several other Duhs.....we are not going to get real stove up about your mundaneness of mind.





Masta808 -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 1:53:09 PM)

Yeah try reading the whole thread again.




mnottertail -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 1:56:55 PM)

Yeah, I got it the first time, it isnt even gradeschool level thinking. 1917 and its aftermath sort of didn't follow from the idiocy of the OP or waft its way down some wending path of clever logical alliteration as each in turn sounded their personal tocsin.

Thanks for the heads up though.




Masta808 -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 2:02:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah, I got it the first time, it isnt even gradeschool level thinking. 1917 and its aftermath sort of didn't follow from the idiocy of the OP or waft its way down some wending path of clever logical alliteration as each in turn sounded their personal tocsin.

Thanks for the heads up though.


yeah keep telling your self that.




mnottertail -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 2:07:09 PM)

hey, locked you lying little sockpuppet. Law business a little slow out there where they had the nations first corporate enabling law, you know the one you as a high powered attorney had to have me explain to you as well as several aspects of constitutional law that I and others had to explain to you?

Or.......did mom front you for some DSL again for the month?




Masta808 -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 2:20:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

hey, locked you lying little sockpuppet. Law business a little slow out there where they had the nations first corporate enabling law, you know the one you as a high powered attorney had to have me explain to you as well as several aspects of constitutional law that I and others had to explain to you?

Or.......did mom front you for some DSL again for the month?


Typical liberal always resorting to ad homin attacks and changing the subject to constitutional law. The constitution is like the bible every American has read it.






EternalHoH -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 2:20:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Greece is the poster child for cradle-to-grave nanny government.

Sanity



A nanny govt who tried to launder away that debt using Wall Street "innovation", the same innovative tools we used when we tried to launder away mortgage risk.   Don't forget that critical point, there, skippy.

Yes, Goldman Sachs is chest-deep in the Greece mess.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/goldman-sachs-the-greek-connection-1899527.html

Our Financial Weapons of Mass Destruction appear to be working just fine across the pond. So who says nothing seems to be working under Obama?







mnottertail -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 2:23:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Masta808

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

hey, locked you lying little sockpuppet. Law business a little slow out there where they had the nations first corporate enabling law, you know the one you as a high powered attorney had to have me explain to you as well as several aspects of constitutional law that I and others had to explain to you?

Or.......did mom front you for some DSL again for the month?


Typical liberal always resorting to ad homin attacks and changing the subject to constitutional law. The constitution is like the bible every American has read it.






Oh, BOB I would love to play all night, but I am getting ready to lock up.

Have a good one, bruddah.

502




thompsonx -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 8:06:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Masta808

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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This is America Not Communist Russia.


Russia is socialist not communist


Remember the Russia Revolution? oh wait neither do I




If you had a clue what communism is you would know how foolish you now look.
Russia is socialist and never has been communist.
Try to educate yourself about the terms you use in ignornce




Masta808 -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 8:16:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

ORIGINAL: Masta808

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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This is America Not Communist Russia.


Russia is socialist not communist


Remember the Russia Revolution? oh wait neither do I




If you had a clue what communism is you would know how foolish you now look.
Russia is socialist and never has been communist.
Try to educate yourself about the terms you use in ignornce



How about you actually have some source to back up your post. Oh wait thats right leftist are all about feelings.




thompsonx -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 8:27:01 PM)

quote:

yeah forget that whole Stalin taking power and implementing that Stalinism crap.



This from your cite.

Stalinism has been described as being synonymous with totalitarianism, or a tyrannical regime. The term has been used to describe regimes that fight political dissent through violence, imprisonment, and killings. However, given that fascist, theocratic, and otherwise anti-communist governments have used these methods to curb dissent just as much as pro-communist governments have, the term "Stalinism" may only really be accurate when describing a government that is pro-Stalin or that proclaims itself to be a socialist state while taking the above measures.

So how does "stalinism" differ from the actions of a succession of u.s. presidents towards dissent by native americans,blacks,hispanics or women.?
You may want to consult a history book written for someone past the fifth grade to find the answer.




thompsonx -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 8:28:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


News flash - youre not everyone, thompson.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

Im sure he can, he is an expert on everything. Just ask him


Yet you are the one who refuses to discuss anything because you claim that everyone who disagrees with you is too stupid to have a discussion with.




If you are so smart why is it that I punch holes in the moronic drivel you post and you respond with nothing but snark.
Your inability to carry on a discussion is proved by your constant snark.




tazzygirl -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 8:30:35 PM)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia




Masta808 -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 9:13:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

yeah forget that whole Stalin taking power and implementing that Stalinism crap.



This from your cite.

Stalinism has been described as being synonymous with totalitarianism, or a tyrannical regime. The term has been used to describe regimes that fight political dissent through violence, imprisonment, and killings. However, given that fascist, theocratic, and otherwise anti-communist governments have used these methods to curb dissent just as much as pro-communist governments have, the term "Stalinism" may only really be accurate when describing a government that is pro-Stalin or that proclaims itself to be a socialist state while taking the above measures.

So how does "stalinism" differ from the actions of a succession of u.s. presidents towards dissent by native americans,blacks,hispanics or women.?
You may want to consult a history book written for someone past the fifth grade to find the answer.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union

Apparently some one needs to read up on history. They were called the communist party.






Termyn8or -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 9:32:11 PM)

"Can you explain to me why every other country has healthcare but somehow it is going to to break what is considered the wealthiest nation in the world? "

Sorry for the delay.

1. Abuse. The regulatory system is abused. There is more poison in the food than food. The land is played out and yields stretched so thin that to get a day's worth of carotene you would have you eat so many carrots your eyes would be orange. The meat is diseased because of improper diet, all in the name of getting to market weight sooner.

2. Abuse. Not to mention the possible links between the poor and adulterated food causing immune system problems, doctors in this country are pill pushers. New drugs have a paragraph on the benefits and the contraindications read like the congressional record. No doctor can read all that and have any time for patients. Drug companies also court their "business" with gifts etc., and even advertise on TV to get people to find a pusher who will prescribe their pills, to the point of now calling them "prescibers". Now it is getting so bad that pharmacies need to have a database to see just how many people are going to three, four or more doctors to get their chemicals.

3. Abuse. Doctors do double billing, overcharging and whatever they can in many cases just to make money. Some of this money is for malpractice insurance, partly due to ;

4. Abuse. Abuse of the legal system by profiteers who make money making people rich in court. Want to start a lawsuit ? Go for a free consultation, the first piece of evidence has nothing to do with the specifics of your case, the case's merit is chiely based on the D&B rating of the company you can sue, or some other indicator of the depth of their pockets.

5. Abuse. Hospitals are as top heavy as any other form of corporation. Those who do the least make the most. Even making doctors rich isn't wehat's breaking the system, even the nurses at $40-50 an hour aren't breaking the system. It's the topheaviness, and the topheaviness of the suppliers of equipment. They comply with ridiculous regulations that make a ten cent part cost twenty dollars, and there are thousands of those parts in every machine "that goes beep".

6. Abuse. Even if it were possible for patients to take care of themselves, eat right and stay active, they wouldn't. Thet would gorge themselves on sugary junk wrecking their endocrine system all their lives and then expect misacles from a system that doesn't do very well on average. Sure we have some of the best facilities on the planet, but out of how many ? They overeat and wonder why they get too fat to walk. Then they need a $3,000 scooter chair. Where do you think that money comes from ?

There are many other reasons why it won't work here. And, lately there has been some noise made about scaling back care in countries that do have socialised medicine. They are feeling the crunch as the world economy suffers the abuse of those who have learned how to take and are getting more adept at it every day. They will find it impossible eventually as well and it will indeed be every person for themself. We're just first.

T^T




tazzygirl -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 9:33:47 PM)

quote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union

Apparently some one needs to read up on history. They were called the communist party.


Were... not are... per your claim ....

This is America Not Communist Russia.




DeviantlyD -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 9:52:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

Hmm... I got a faint "irony" sense from Masta808's post....


I'm awake now and I'm not finding the irony. ;)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Dear twit

Entitlements, yes. Greece is the poster child for cradle-to-grave nanny government.

Sanity

quote:

ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
Oh really? Greece's health care put them into debt?

Twit.


Awww, aren't you cute to pretend you didn't know what I meant. :P



quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


Youve already explained that you are a twit, we understand.

quote:

ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD


quote:

ORIGINAL: crazyml

Hmm... I got a faint "irony" sense from Masta808's post....


Perhaps my fatigue allowed me to miss it. ;)

Damn...I need to get some sleeeeep!


Perhaps you could use a dictionary to distinguish the meaning of the word "fatigue" from "twit". *helpful smile*


quote:

ORIGINAL: Masta808

Dont get me started on ObamaCare. This is America Not Communist Russia. [snip]


quote:

ORIGINAL: Masta808

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

yeah forget that whole Stalin taking power and implementing that Stalinism crap.



This from your cite.

Stalinism has been described as being synonymous with totalitarianism, or a tyrannical regime. The term has been used to describe regimes that fight political dissent through violence, imprisonment, and killings. However, given that fascist, theocratic, and otherwise anti-communist governments have used these methods to curb dissent just as much as pro-communist governments have, the term "Stalinism" may only really be accurate when describing a government that is pro-Stalin or that proclaims itself to be a socialist state while taking the above measures.

So how does "stalinism" differ from the actions of a succession of u.s. presidents towards dissent by native americans,blacks,hispanics or women.?
You may want to consult a history book written for someone past the fifth grade to find the answer.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union

Apparently some one needs to read up on history. They were called the communist party.


Are you aware that the Soviet Union no longer exists, and as such, Russia is no longer under communist rule, aren't you?

*shakes head*




DeviantlyD -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 9:55:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"Can you explain to me why every other country has healthcare but somehow it is going to to break what is considered the wealthiest nation in the world? "

Sorry for the delay.

1. Abuse. The regulatory system is abused. There is more poison in the food than food. The land is played out and yields stretched so thin that to get a day's worth of carotene you would have you eat so many carrots your eyes would be orange. The meat is diseased because of improper diet, all in the name of getting to market weight sooner.

2. Abuse. Not to mention the possible links between the poor and adulterated food causing immune system problems, doctors in this country are pill pushers. New drugs have a paragraph on the benefits and the contraindications read like the congressional record. No doctor can read all that and have any time for patients. Drug companies also court their "business" with gifts etc., and even advertise on TV to get people to find a pusher who will prescribe their pills, to the point of now calling them "prescibers". Now it is getting so bad that pharmacies need to have a database to see just how many people are going to three, four or more doctors to get their chemicals.

3. Abuse. Doctors do double billing, overcharging and whatever they can in many cases just to make money. Some of this money is for malpractice insurance, partly due to ;

4. Abuse. Abuse of the legal system by profiteers who make money making people rich in court. Want to start a lawsuit ? Go for a free consultation, the first piece of evidence has nothing to do with the specifics of your case, the case's merit is chiely based on the D&B rating of the company you can sue, or some other indicator of the depth of their pockets.

5. Abuse. Hospitals are as top heavy as any other form of corporation. Those who do the least make the most. Even making doctors rich isn't wehat's breaking the system, even the nurses at $40-50 an hour aren't breaking the system. It's the topheaviness, and the topheaviness of the suppliers of equipment. They comply with ridiculous regulations that make a ten cent part cost twenty dollars, and there are thousands of those parts in every machine "that goes beep".

6. Abuse. Even if it were possible for patients to take care of themselves, eat right and stay active, they wouldn't. Thet would gorge themselves on sugary junk wrecking their endocrine system all their lives and then expect misacles from a system that doesn't do very well on average. Sure we have some of the best facilities on the planet, but out of how many ? They overeat and wonder why they get too fat to walk. Then they need a $3,000 scooter chair. Where do you think that money comes from ?

There are many other reasons why it won't work here. And, lately there has been some noise made about scaling back care in countries that do have socialised medicine. They are feeling the crunch as the world economy suffers the abuse of those who have learned how to take and are getting more adept at it every day. They will find it impossible eventually as well and it will indeed be every person for themself. We're just first.

T^T


And your credible sources to back up your claims are where? Oh wait, you don't have any credible sources, just your overactive imagination. [:D]




Sanity -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 9:57:13 PM)


I just saw humor in your signing your name "twit" because it was so ironically fitting




Masta808 -> RE: Another reason to repeal Obamacare (9/16/2011 9:59:21 PM)

So you do admit Russia WAS communist?




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