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A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 9:49:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is a local attorney here who runs commercials advertising how he can help the downtrodden sue anyone who hits them in a car.  He nicknamed himself the Strong Arm.  I have read that getting the less-than-bright to file and then soaking up almost all the proceeds is lucrative.

The housing loan crisis was precipitated largely by fraudulent loan qualification and securities evaluations making totally uncreditworthy people able to get loans.

This is a new phase of the economy.  It used to be that the middle class was necessary as a consumer class, to buy goods and services, and that people got wealthy from selling to them.  Now, it seems like there is a shift towards making money from the have-nots.

Needless to say, if the economy can run without a need for a middle class, decision makers will grant it less concern...


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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 9:58:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		An average day of daytime network TV should clear it up. Call your prescriber about our new drug. Take the new drug. When the side effects kick in join the class action lawsuit. Then take the structured settlement and sell it for a lump sum later.

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 9:59:25 AM   
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We should get shark ads off the air, as they once were.

Same with drug ads and bigger-boner pill ads and booze ads too.

Doubt we`ll ever see the end of them considering who`s behind them.

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 5:14:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Doesn't the UK have a legal system where the plaintiff pays legal fees if they lose the case. That would stop bogus lawsuits.

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 5:20:07 PM   
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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 5:28:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with Owner.....I miss the days when lawyers had to use alternative means of advertising other than TV.  Or, gee, actually have to make an effort for clients.  But here in FL, it seems that the lucrative money is in Workman's Comp claims.  I process those kind of claims at work, and it's amazing what these lawyers are making from their clients.  Forget the injured party...the lawyers are the ones making the money.

I'd love to see the ads pulled off of TV.  People contact these frauds thinking that they are actually going to help them......pffffftttt!  What a load of hogwash! 

Also, Owner's statement about getting rid of those commercials is also correct.  The money they generate for the ad agencies has to top several million a year.....especially the way the commercials are popping up all over.

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 6:07:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		DarkStephen:
quote:

This is a new phase of the economy.  It used to be that the middle class was necessary as a consumer class, to buy goods and services, and that people got wealthy from selling to them.  Now, it seems like there is a shift towards making money from the have-nots.

Needless to say, if the economy can run without a need for a middle class, decision makers will grant it less concern...


Sure, like Ford's great innovation in making sure cars were affordable so that people could actually buy them ensuring demand.
I agree w/ what you've said and it actually worries me. With a diminishing middle class and more robber barons like Conrad Black, Murdoch get a light slap for their crimes against others and financial white-collar crimes, or even how Microsoft, et alii, weighed the cost of settling lawsuits was outweighed by profit - how are we not gonna wind up like vassals at some point?

When i consider that the ancient Assyrian civilization was around for thousands of years, before being decimated and the U.S., w/ barely a couple of centuries under our belt, are far too short-sighted to see what might bring about our demise. A disappearing middle class is like an arrow to the heart of the so-called "American Dream."

So much for nostalgia, but you posit the more pressing concern, is *can* the economy run w/out a middle class? I am trying to imagine what that world would look like. And don't DMs already grant it less concern?

I keep hearing statistics about China (which can be argued in endless ways, of course), and this behemoth's potential to affect world economies, in the way we once worried about Japan's financial dominance. I was also creeped out by the China scandal over melamine in baby food ingredients. And why we can't even enforce the regulations we already have, and how we can't even expect financial institutions not to behave like hyenas and eat their young. Or our young.
Our children's children.

That said, people still have the ability to innovate and create and renew...

still...

God, I've worked myself into a lather, how am I ever going to get to sleep now? ...

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 6:22:42 PM   
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Needless to say, if the economy can run without a need for a middle class, decision makers will grant it less concern...

If there is no middle class, there is no economy (to speak of)...

Lawyers have always done that kinda ambulance chasing shit,.. dont think that actually makes them all that wealthy. Donald Sterling (LA, CA) started out as a lawyer but he got rich not by being a lawyer but rather from investing in real estate at the right time, buy and hold forever...

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 6:28:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		DarkSteven:
quote:

There is a local attorney here who runs commercials advertising how he can help the downtrodden sue anyone who hits them in a car.  He nicknamed himself the Strong Arm.  I have read that getting the less-than-bright to file and then soaking up almost all the proceeds is lucrative.


Reminds me of John Morgan who has been running his Morgan & Morgan ambulance chasing firm for at least 20 years in central FL, "Morgan & Morgan... For the People" And of course 1/2 the weight of the phonebook comes from these guys. (brilliant innovation to have their "magnet calendars" that are ugly and don't stick falling out of the yellow pages.

Anyway, in the Casey Anthony case, Zenaida Gonzalez hired him for her civil action, and that's not even his area of expertise! he's so not qualified!! but because those commercials had permeated her brain (like everyone in Orlando) She stupidly hires this goon. She didn't have any better sense than to hire someone who is qualified in those areas. It was laughable seeing that clown in the news re: the Anthony trial.

My mother's profession imbued me with respect for those who get referrals based on real recommendations and a peer system.

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 6:34:02 PM   
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I was also creeped out by the China scandal over melamine in baby food ingredients. And why we can't even enforce the regulations we already have,


This.

We actually put ourselves at a further disadvantage by not holding exporters to the same standards and sanctions as domestic companies. That is a legitimate response to part of their cost advantages. In fact, while it might be difficult to implement, we should hold the US importers more responsible for the foreign goods they bring to market.

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 7:07:10 PM   
April425


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Status: offline 		excellent point

also, nice sig. i forgot how great Floyd was.

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 7:08:14 PM   
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also, nice sig. i forgot how great Floyd was.


Shame on you. :)

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 7:17:40 PM   
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DarkSteven:
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There is a local attorney here who runs commercials advertising how he can help the downtrodden sue anyone who hits them in a car.  He nicknamed himself the Strong Arm.  I have read that getting the less-than-bright to file and then soaking up almost all the proceeds is lucrative.


Reminds me of John Morgan who has been running his Morgan & Morgan ambulance chasing firm for at least 20 years in central FL, "Morgan & Morgan... For the People" And of course 1/2 the weight of the phonebook comes from these guys. (brilliant innovation to have their "magnet calendars" that are ugly and don't stick falling out of the yellow pages.

Anyway, in the Casey Anthony case, Zenaida Gonzalez hired him for her civil action, and that's not even his area of expertise! he's so not qualified!! but because those commercials had permeated her brain (like everyone in Orlando) She stupidly hires this goon. She didn't have any better sense than to hire someone who is qualified in those areas. It was laughable seeing that clown in the news re: the Anthony trial.

My mother's profession imbued me with respect for those who get referrals based on real recommendations and a peer system.


I dont really have any objection to lawyer's advertising in and of itself. They should be held to their code of ethics and presumbaly bar requriements that they dont misrepresent their experience and expertise, of course. The pharma ads in particular I think are valuable because many of the affected people wouldnt even know about the possibility of compensation without them.

Did Morgan actually handle the case himself, or did he refer it to an attorney or firm that was qualified?

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 7:51:11 PM   
April425


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Did Morgan actually handle the case himself, or did he refer it to an attorney or firm that was qualified?


He is irresponsibly representing her! This:
http://www.forthepeople.com/casey-anthony-case.htm

i can still hear him saying "FOR the people" in my head. a gazillion times (not that i watch tv all that much either!)

and of course you are right about their right to advertise, i mean, i'm an art director in advertising, sooo shame on me for that too.

I guess it just makes me more hyper-critical of them, like the bad magnets & how they'll run ads with their family at thanksgiving, act like they care about real people and not the avaricious viper that he is.
They'll pose w/ their dog and do "public service" reminders to help the ASPCA or other "humanizing" behavior in an attempt to fool everyone.
I just find them ludicrous in their transparency.

Although I have nothing against lawyers in general. I mean, ONE time in my life I really needed one, I got lucky w/ one of the very best based on his case history & reputation. and literally saved my life. (Hint: i was a good girl who had been doing things that were a little bit naughty - there were no other "victims"). I remember as i got off, the judge saying magnanimously, "You're off to college in the fall, and we don't need this ruining you and following you the rest of your life." I totally agreed with him. (although i recognize many people are not fortunate to have that kind of representation) And it was to the credit of my attorney that all that happened in my favor. So i have no doubt the hypocrisy of those who criticize attorneys ...until they need one. I guess the flip side is the ones who find ways to get corporations off the hook and weasel around regulations.

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RE: A frightening trend. - 9/18/2011 8:00:04 PM   
April425


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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: April425

Did Morgan actually handle the case himself, or did he refer it to an attorney or firm that was qualified?


idk... i looked at his site now, and he claims to be well peer-reviewed, and turns out former governor Charlie Crist has gone to work for him, so idk.

but i do know he's a slip-n-fall guy.

Anyway, I didn't mean to take away from DarkSteven's Mr. "Strong Arm" - I'm sure his ads are a hoot.

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