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Hisprettybaby -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 5:40:56 PM)
I call myself heteroflexible because most of the time I prefer opposite sex intimacy, but under the right circumstances a same-sex intimate encounter could happen. To me bisexual means attracted to both sexes equally. Homoflexible would be normally attracted to the same sex, but under the right circumstances the person could be attracted to the opposite sex. CM doesn't allow for heteroflexible and homoflexible orientations, so I'm forced to call myself bisexual on here. On Fetlife I'm heteroflexible. ~Hisprettybaby~

NocturnalStalker -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 6:08:42 PM)
This honestly sounds like a more gentle way of saying bi-sexual. If you are brought to the point of having an intimate encounter with someone of the same sex period then you must in some way have bi-sexual tendencies. It comes across as a denial label.

Winterapple -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 6:25:23 PM)
I agree it can sound like denial. A word a person can use til they can say bisexual. But I think for some women it's barsexual. They're saying it because they think that's what someone wants to hear. They think it ups the ante on their sexy.

LadyPact -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 6:35:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker This honestly sounds like a more gentle way of saying bi-sexual. If you are brought to the point of having an intimate encounter with someone of the same sex period then you must in some way have bi-sexual tendencies. It comes across as a denial label. I disagree. One is about a person's own interests and the other is about obeying the person who owns you.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 6:41:31 PM)
But even then, it is to my understanding that people partake in these activities on agreement/consent (as opposed to being legitimately forced). So you have to wonder that if a person who claims heterosexuality is suddenly open to the idea of having sexual contact with someone of the same sex if they are more just simply repressing "that side of them."

ProlificNeeds -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 6:47:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I disagree. One is about a person's own interests and the other is about obeying the person who owns you. [sm=agree.gif]

LadyPact -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 6:51:16 PM)
Who said it was sudden? Submitting to someone else doesn't mean that a person is going to like everything they will ever be required to do. Some would even argue that going against one's own sexual preferences to obey to a specific act is a way for the s-type to know just how much they can set their own will aside and follow the will of the D. The same can be said of Owner/property dynamics. It's not a case of them liking it. Instead, it's a case of the owner wanting a task done and that means that is what they are going to do.

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 6:55:38 PM)
It's really a question of of willingness. To me a heteroflexible is someone who will go same sex in the right circumstances <usually involving tequila>. A bisexual who is peeking out of the closet, one who requires plausible deniability, if you would. [sm=afraid.gif]

NocturnalStalker -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:11:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Who said it was sudden? Submitting to someone else doesn't mean that a person is going to like everything they will ever be required to do. Some would even argue that going against one's own sexual preferences to obey to a specific act is a way for the s-type to know just how much they can set their own will aside and follow the will of the D. The same can be said of Owner/property dynamics. It's not a case of them liking it. Instead, it's a case of the owner wanting a task done and that means that is what they are going to do. See what you described strikes me as total disregard for someone else's feelings if they truly do not want to go through with an act and if that sort of dynamic is present in a relationship then there really is no "limit" that the owner in this case can stretch out to and expect the other to obey. What if you had a submissive that was very straight and simply could not be with their same gender in any sexual tone, whatsoever? To me what you were eluding to isn't so much as making them demonstrate flexibility as it is completely breaking them. If they are willing to demonstrate flexibility in the first place, then obviously they must have some sexual interest in the same gender which to most people would qualify you as bi-sexual.

SuzeCheri -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:15:22 PM)
I use the terms this way. A bisexual is a person who is turned on by the idea of sex with either gender. A heteroflexible is a straight person who is not turned off by sex with their own gender. Hanners is bi, I'm homoflexible (the inverse of heteroflexible). Men are simply not sexually attractive to me, but I have in the past had sex with them and am open to the possibility of doing so again. Men don't turn me on, but the idea of boinking a guy doesn't gross me out.

LadyPact -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:21:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker See what you described strikes me as total disregard for someone else's feelings if they truly do not want to go through with an act and if that sort of dynamic is present in a relationship then there really is no "limit" that the owner in this case can stretch out to and expect the other to obey. What if you had a submissive that was very straight and simply could not be with their same gender in any sexual tone, whatsoever? To me what you were eluding to isn't so much as making them demonstrate flexibility as it is completely breaking them. If they are willing to demonstrate flexibility in the first place, then obviously they must have some sexual interest in the same gender which to most people would qualify you as bi-sexual. We'll have to agree to disagree. Some people actually want to be owned to such a degree. To be at the complete use and will of the owner. A point may (or may not, I'll give you that) come that they don't see a sexual act for the pleasure of their owner any differently than mopping a floor. The act itself is inconsequential. It's the owner's happiness that matters. Feeling complete ownership in such a way is very rewarding. At this point, I'm probably better off allowing the s-types to speak for themselves on the matter. There are a number here on the boards who have experienced this in their submission/slavery/ownership. None of whom I have ever considered "broken".

littlewonder -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:24:40 PM)
heteroflexible is like somewhat pregnant

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:25:42 PM)
quote: See what you described strikes me as total disregard for someone else's feelings if they truly do not want to go through with an act and if that sort of dynamic is present in a relationship then there really is no "limit" that the owner in this case can stretch out to and expect the other to obey. What if you had a submissive that was very straight and simply could not be with their same gender in any sexual tone, whatsoever? To me what you were eluding to isn't so much as making them demonstrate flexibility as it is completely breaking them. If they are willing to demonstrate flexibility in the first place, then obviously they must have some sexual interest in the same gender which to most people would qualify you as bi-sexual. I disagree, it doesn't require "breaking" or any innate hidden bisexuality. I am a person who simply could not be with the opposite gender in any sexual tone whatsoever, yet if Hanners decided that I should have sex with a guy, I'll do it. Obviously I really hope she doesn't, and it would very probably also cause some major issues between us that will have to be worked through, but I would do it. That's my job, I do what I'm told to do. As Hanners likes to say, it really is that simple.

PeonForHer -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:35:36 PM)
quote: A point may (or may not, I'll give you that) come that they don't see a sexual act for the pleasure of their owner any differently than mopping a floor. Gawd. I'd hope that there's more of a buzz to it than that! I'm trying to think of another example. Would I be able to have sex with a woman that I found very unattractive, if 'my Domme' were to tell me to do so? Bearing in mind that I'd need a stiffy to do that, versus giving another man a BJ . . . . Possibly. It's just about imaginable. I think the sub-feeling could float me that far. Maybe. Hmm. I shall contemplate that one.

littlewonder -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:38:42 PM)
There are times I've had sex with other women but I did not enjoy it for anything at all, did not get off from it, absolutely hated it while doing it...but I did it because it was a requirement of the Master I was with and it will probably happen again in the future but I wouldn't call myself bisexual or heterflexible since I find zero interest in other women. I simply do it because that's what I am ordered to do. There's nothing deep down in me that wants to be with another woman. I'm not suppressing anything. I simply don't make limits on Master. It's either obey or leave.

NocturnalStalker -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:44:03 PM)
quote: We'll have to agree to disagree. Some people actually want to be owned to such a degree. To be at the complete use and will of the owner. A point may (or may not, I'll give you that) come that they don't see a sexual act for the pleasure of their owner any differently than mopping a floor. The act itself is inconsequential. It's the owner's happiness that matters. Feeling complete ownership in such a way is very rewarding. At this point, I'm probably better off allowing the s-types to speak for themselves on the matter. There are a number here on the boards who have experienced this in their submission/slavery/ownership. None of whom I have ever considered "broken". Maybe there was slight miscommunication here, but from how I was understanding it was having an s-type that is perfectly fine with having sexual activity with the opposite gender then suddenly having their "loyalty tested" through making them do something that is obviously uncomfortable to them. Even those that get their rocks off from being made into complete property have some level of consent in being "forced" to do something which differs from my initial impression that what you proposed is going way beyond their boundaries. quote: I disagree, it doesn't require "breaking" or any innate hidden bisexuality. I am a person who simply could not be with the opposite gender in any sexual tone whatsoever, yet if Hanners decided that I should have sex with a guy, I'll do it. Obviously I really hope she doesn't, and it would very probably also cause some major issues between us that will have to be worked through, but I would do it. That's my job, I do what I'm told to do. As Hanners likes to say, it really is that simple. To return to the original discussion, see, I would label you a bi-sexual if you were perfectly fine having sex with a man. I see a label like "heteroflexible" being a bi-sexual sign painted differently. Now as you said you'd have obvious problems having sexual intercourse with a guy and not to get too personal here, but wouldn't that be fleeting of Hannah to do in regards to you? The way I see it is... A) If a person is perfectly fine having sexual confrontation with the same gender, as well as the opposite, then they bi-sexual. They are responsive to both. B) If a person is actually forced/told to have sex with a gender they have no attraction to whatsoever, then that is very close to being in an abusive situation than anything.

HeatherMcLeather -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:47:17 PM)
quote: Gawd. I'd hope that there's more of a buzz to it than that! Some of us get a real buzz out of mopping the floor you know. [;)]

PeonForHer -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 7:50:02 PM)
I used to myself, come to think of it, when I had a job as a cleaner and the women's changing room was on my patch. Fun!

LadyPact -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 8:05:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker Maybe there was slight miscommunication here, but from how I was understanding it was having an s-type that is perfectly fine with having sexual activity with the opposite gender then suddenly having their "loyalty tested" through making them do something that is obviously uncomfortable to them. Even those that get their rocks off from being made into complete property have some level of consent in being "forced" to do something which differs from my initial impression that what you proposed is going way beyond their boundaries. It might be a communication issue. There are some terms being thrown about here that have everything to do with perspective. Ask yourself what an obedience based dynamic really is. It means that any limits in the dynamic are set by the person in charge. They have agreed that the boundaries will be set by the owner. In doing so, hopefully, the result is that they grow into going deeper into their submission. Not everybody believes that everything a submissive will ever do will be comfortable. Some of it will be challenging. Some of it is designed to get them to the path of feeling completely owned. That they will trust their owner completely and give themselves over to them fully. Let's try from another angle. I have a particular toy which has affectionately been labeled "the ugly stick". I happen to love it and clip happens to hate it. The fact that he hates it has no bearing on whether I use it or not. The fact that he doesn't like it has nothing to do with whether he submits to Me using it on him or not. I know that there is no permanent damage associated with it's use and he can handle it on a physical, emotional, mental and spiritual level. It wasn't always like that, but we grew together to that point. That doesn't mean that he likes it any better today than he did the day I brought it home. It just means that when it comes out, his answer is "yes, Mistress".

Hisprettybaby -> RE: heteroflexible vs bisexual (9/19/2011 8:08:52 PM)
Heteroflexible and homoflexible can have sex with either gender, but I think the "-flexible" part of either word is implying that they'd rather have sex with one gender over sex with the other and most of the time would not have sex with the gender they do not prefer. To me, "bisexuality" implies that they are equally attracted to both genders where heteroflexible and homoflexible imply preference for one gender even though they have the ability to be attracted to both under the right circumstances. At least that's how I understand it. ~Hisprettybaby~

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