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BonesFromAsh -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (9/25/2011 12:07:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Back2theFuture

Because they think men are freaking idiots.

And honestly we have no one to blame but our selves guys. We have let the loud stupid idiot men run free for too long, and they have hurt our image.

So don't blame the women when they don't want anything to do with you because they have had too many bad experiences with idiots. You just have to pray that maybe one of them will give you a chance to show that you are(hopefully) not one of the idiots.

Try being irresistibly cute, and fun. It works for me.




Now that just made me smile....so true. [:)]




lunaticlorraine -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (9/27/2011 3:12:02 AM)

I actually have a similar problem, just the other way around.
I'm finding it hard to find a lesbian Domme. I can see peoples profiles, who are lesbian Domme's but most are quite a bit older than me.
Just posting to say that I understand your frustration.




MistressJulia1 -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (9/27/2011 8:59:53 AM)

I am a professional and lifestyle Mistress and I have no interest in women sexually or as a Dominant.  Step this way sub males ONLY.




dominalisa -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/2/2011 11:53:51 PM)

Depends on the dominant Woman. I only see submissive males.

But maybe why you're seeing alot of dommes seeking submissive women is because they might be more prone to really wanting to learn about the whole woman instead of just listing fetishes he wants fulfulled. I also notice there's some males who do not bother to read a profile before contacting, or who say why he's contacting that particular domme instead of another.




MistressEsmeUK -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/3/2011 7:39:53 AM)

I can't speak for others however many I know are bi so like to play with both. It's easy to find a male sub to play with however a sub female is difficult to find. Now I don't know the type of profiles you search for however there are many who don't seek female only.




Succi -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/3/2011 12:08:49 PM)

Yeah, I gotta say, as much as guys might complain "all" the Mistresses want women, all the fun profiles ALWAYS say "no females".

There may or may not be smartass in the previous sentence. xD





LaTigresse -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/3/2011 12:11:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Succi

Yeah, I gotta say, as much as guys might complain "all" the Mistresses want women, all the fun profiles ALWAYS say "no females".

There may or may not be smartass in the previous sentence. xD




Heyyyyyyyyyy nowwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!




BluMac -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 3:13:49 PM)

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Guys are a dime a dozen and girls are fun...


Reading this thread really depresses me, it's one thing to humbly sacrifice your ego and pride which can be considered honorable, but it's another thing to sacrifice your innate diginity as men. Yes I know this is a BDSM forum and yes I know this is the "Ask a Mistress" section but really, it's like you men have been brainwashed into being ashamed of your gender, and feeling inferior to females 24/7. Obviously I don't belong here, and this thread has convinced me to leave the BDSM scene, cause this just sickens me, how you men are making jokes about how worthless (dime a dozen) and repulsive males are, and what's worse is the women here not even stepping in to point out the good things about guys, like that HeatherMcLeather person, posting an ridiculously ugly picture of a man and a sexy picture of a woman, I could do the same by getting a picture of some fat toothless trailer park woman next to a shirtless Antonia Benderes. And yea, I know all of this is said in a jokingly manner, but remember, "A lot of truth is said in jest", and I think you people have taken femdom BDSM to such an extreme level where it is seriously detrimental to your mental health, and you women sit by and let it happen. BDSM should just be kinky sex play, just for the bedroom or fetish clubs, not 24/7, that's when it becomes as demented as pedofilia or rape, it becomes this unholy nasty thing. Just take a look at the female submissives and see if there is a common 'shame' in being female and complete sacrifice of all dignity there, is there? I don't think so, especially on the former.

I know you guys are gonna flame me for this, and get into that "in-crowd" mentality in which you do not think for yourself and say the same things everybody else says because it's "popular" or "safe", and I know you're gonna go on about how you're just kidding and how I shouldn't take myself so seriously and how I can't take a joke, blah blah blah, but that's not the case, I assure you, I'm often very silly, but when things get serious, I get serious, I have a BA in psychology and though that doesn't make me a psychologist, nor a know-it-all on the subject, I can tell you that there are some seriously fucked up psyches going on around here, and I don't want to be a part of it. I'm a fetishist for life, but never a wretched pathetic submissive or slave like you guys.

I've said my peace, now, I'm outtie!

PS- Mad props go to Back2theFuture for actually using his head and pointing out one of the problems; it's true, there are a whole lot of idiot men out there who bring men's reputation down terribly, but at the same time, you have to be an idiot yourself if you don't know that every individual person on this earth is different and unique, and grouping people into a stereotype is both inaccurate and ignorant. Anyway, much respect to Back2theFuture! Keep on speakin the truth!




Lockit -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 3:22:47 PM)

Dear god... we lost another one...

You sick fucks ran off a cute lil guy that thinks we be bad. You unholy perverts that shouldn't be into this unless it is only in the bedroom... because it seems that is approved of by anal, young dudes with a ba and outside the bedroom it is not!

Thank you




myotherself -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 3:37:37 PM)

I think the BA stands for 'bugger all'...particularly in the tolerance and sense department [8|]

Gotta love these narrow-minded people who consider everyone who is following their own personal path, that does not parallel with their own, as mentally ill.

I'm only hoping he doesn't use his degree to become a psychotherapist.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 7:20:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BluMac

Kind of noticed an anomaly here on collarme.com, I see that the majority of dom women have these statements in their profiles like "FEMALES ONLY - Contact me, read it again, Contact me - FEMALES ONLY". Now, I know that along with the BDSM lifestyle typically comes some homosexuality or bisexuality, but the proportions are way off, and how these doms (except the doms for pay) seek to keep away male subs is beyond me. My only theory on it is that there are too many males bombarding their inbox. Can someone explain this phenomenon to me? Do female doms receive more pleasure when they're with female subs than with men? What's going on?

Anyway, I've nearly given up looking for a dom in CO, they're just impossible to find and the ones you do find only want women, go figure. Now, I say this with all due respect, please understand that. I'm just trying to understand this scene a little better... and maybe give me some hope! lol

PS- Any of you other sub/switch/slave guys see what I'm talking about here?


Well (and it's just a gut feel...I could be wrong but), when a woman says she's "only interested in women".....(i.e. "FEMALES ONLY")....and again, it's just a guess.....I'm thinking (I'm just speculating here actually)......

SHE LIKES PUSSY!!!!!!!!!

(NOT DICK).

Of course....I'm just speculating here.





gman992 -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 7:21:15 PM)

'Cause she's a lesbian/Bi?




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 9:06:43 PM)

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I can tell you that there are some seriously fucked up psyches going on around here
well butt fuck me jesus!! there are fucked up people on a kink site? for real? wow, i never would have fucking guessed. i always thought wanting to have your back whipped into a bloody pulp and then have somebody's hand shoved up your ass was the result of a perfectly normal healthy psyche.

fuck me! i think i need 2 shrinks, clearly one is not enough!




Succi -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 9:07:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BluMac

quote:

Guys are a dime a dozen and girls are fun...


Reading this thread really depresses me, it's one thing to humbly sacrifice your ego and pride which can be considered honorable, but it's another thing to sacrifice your innate diginity as men. Yes I know this is a BDSM forum and yes I know this is the "Ask a Mistress" section but really, it's like you men have been brainwashed into being ashamed of your gender, and feeling inferior to females 24/7. Obviously I don't belong here, and this thread has convinced me to leave the BDSM scene, cause this just sickens me, how you men are making jokes about how worthless (dime a dozen) and repulsive males are, and what's worse is the women here not even stepping in to point out the good things about guys, like that HeatherMcLeather person, posting an ridiculously ugly picture of a man and a sexy picture of a woman, I could do the same by getting a picture of some fat toothless trailer park woman next to a shirtless Antonia Benderes. And yea, I know all of this is said in a jokingly manner, but remember, "A lot of truth is said in jest", and I think you people have taken femdom BDSM to such an extreme level where it is seriously detrimental to your mental health, and you women sit by and let it happen. BDSM should just be kinky sex play, just for the bedroom or fetish clubs, not 24/7, that's when it becomes as demented as pedofilia or rape, it becomes this unholy nasty thing. Just take a look at the female submissives and see if there is a common 'shame' in being female and complete sacrifice of all dignity there, is there? I don't think so, especially on the former.


*Looks up wide eyed, then thinks better and back down to the floor*


quote:

I know you guys are gonna flame me for this, and get into that "in-crowd" mentality in which you do not think for yourself and say the same things everybody else says because it's "popular" or "safe", and I know you're gonna go on about how you're just kidding and how I shouldn't take myself so seriously and how I can't take a joke, blah blah blah, but that's not the case, I assure you, I'm often very silly, but when things get serious, I get serious, I have a BA in psychology and though that doesn't make me a psychologist, nor a know-it-all on the subject, I can tell you that there are some seriously fucked up psyches going on around here, and I don't want to be a part of it. I'm a fetishist for life, but never a wretched pathetic submissive or slave like you guys.

I've said my peace, now, I'm outtie!

PS- Mad props go to Back2theFuture for actually using his head and pointing out one of the problems; it's true, there are a whole lot of idiot men out there who bring men's reputation down terribly, but at the same time, you have to be an idiot yourself if you don't know that every individual person on this earth is different and unique, and grouping people into a stereotype is both inaccurate and ignorant. Anyway, much respect to Back2theFuture! Keep on speakin the truth!


*shifty eyes* Ah....what the hell...

For all of your education, and probably tens of thousands of dollars of debt, they didn't teach ONE class about satire and sarcasm and how you might run into people who use it?

My untrained eyes (but I don't have a BA is psychology) see the first page or so as being quite honest and clear with the OP's inane question/observation that exists to decry female homosexuality as unfair and generally not in line with his patriarchal world view. But, after that, the point had been made. The next page and a half, as I read them, is entirely shtick, with a couple exceptions of course.

*puffs on her Freud pipe*

Now, to me, this kind of attitude (for I am merely highlighting this as an example, I'm not ASSUMING that the poster just did it to feel self-important and made an overly dramatic declaration in order to get attention and is actually coming back to see how we've reacted), this...well I guess audacity is a good word, is exactly the same mindset as the OP who asked "why are you homosexuals? Stop that, it's not fair anymore", either that or he JUST discovered the internet two weeks ago and isn't filtering obviously fake profiles. But I'm inclined to call it the former.

Now, I understand where this young man is coming from. I can't stand male domination. It makes me sick to my stomach to have to be in its presence. If you want to get me in a foul mood, just point me to a profile where some 20-something girl is calling some 40-something guy her love, her everything, her joy because he's so much better than she is. I will start ninja-slicing everything around me (you know? Ninja slice! when everything in a ten foot radius is cut to ribbons but it has to dramatically fall at a perfect angle as the pieces separate? =P). Which is a problem since I have a few male dom friends, but I politely tell them to leave me out of it or I won't be around anymore, and sometimes I do separate myself from it rather than start drama. I TOTALLY understand, honest, how a straight, non-femdom oriented male might see our joking that way.

But, I have never gone to the "Ask a Master" boards and talked about how they're doing it wrong. Nor do I tell young women to give up on men (unless I'm seducing them).

I would argue with him that, yes, there IS a rampant, blatant degradation of the submissives as women. But that's my opinion. That's my life reflecting back on what I see, that's my upbringing rearing it's head. What makes it okay for women to say something self-deprecating (self-degrading?) but not men? Women it's their place and they're being cherished, but for men it's "giving up their dignity"? I don't want to pull the female empowerment card here, because honestly I think it's a weak card at only two mana, but REALLY?

Now, just judging by the subject's profile, of course, it appears to think of BDSM in terms of an exchange like that of a prostitute, "here's something I want, I'll get something you want". And then, disregard it outside the bedroom. This shows a deep-seated self loathing of the subjects own submissive nature, that he feels he must hide it behind the bedroom door. Oh, excuse me *adjusts the couch and continues smoking her Freud pipe* As I was saying, for such a man, submission is a fantasy escape from the real world. And certainly, with a military background it seems likely that he would be ashamed of such a relationship (see, I can make gross generalizations too).

And, breaking the fourth wall again, is any of that REALLY worse than equating lifestyle D/s to pedophiles?

Ultimately, the picture the subject presents in his argument is that of a redneck. A religious, cultural traditionalist who is made so uncomfortable by surroundings that are alien he must lash out at them. Albeit in a very passive, and quasi-intellectual way. Someone who sees D/s in a sexual context, the same way he probably views homosexuality. Someone who has to be reminded that, no, a lesbian is someone who falls in love with and desires women, not a woman who "has sex with women". That living the nuclear family dream is not the only way to live.

Though ultimately, I am reminded of my Tai-Chi class, and a student asked "Sensei, how can I practice Tai-Chi at home? It seems really out of place". And my Sensei responded so: "Everything is Tai-Chi, when you sit down properly, you are practicing. When you open the fridge on your breath, you are practicing Tai-Chi. You don't need a mat or have to take off your shoes to do Tai-Chi."

Likewise, femdoms and lifestyle female supremacy aren't always about fucking like rabbits and being called bad names and wearing leather fetish gear to the grocery store with three naked men crawling behind you. Although it makes me wonder WHERE this guy lives if he sees that in public so much he's compelled to call anyone who practices outside the bedroom a pedophile and rapist.

I'm Andy Rooney, signing off.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 10:57:02 PM)

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myotherself -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/7/2011 11:26:58 PM)

Sometimes it's impossible to explain to those with rigid thinking that things just MIGHT be different to their experience, and work just as well.

Some have the capacity to learn, some only have the capacity to belittle others for daring to live life differently to themselves, or react with insults and venom when others dare to question their thinking.

I think I would class the OP in that category - he sees happy people living happy lives and because he doesn't understand it, he goes on the attack and blames others for his lack of understanding and empathy. Maybe as he matures he will understand the world is bigger than his experience and learn to embrace difference rather than villify it.







kalikshama -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/8/2011 10:54:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Succi


Great post Succi, I hope you stick around!




kalikshama -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/8/2011 11:08:18 AM)

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and what's worse is the women here not even stepping in to point out the good things about guys


Stick around and you will see how the Dommes in relationships with sub men do in fact cherish them.

Look - people start threads all the time about their lack of success. Those with the attitude that it's all the site's fault tend to get flamed or not taken seriously.

lunaticlorraine has mentioned difficulty finding a partner in other threads and gets a much better reception, not because she's female but because she lacks the sense of entitlement held by most men complaining about the site and because she is open to suggestions as to what she can do to improve her odds.




BluMac -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/10/2011 3:30:54 PM)

quote:

For all of your education, and probably tens of thousands of dollars of debt, they didn't teach ONE class about satire and sarcasm and how you might run into people who use it?

My untrained eyes (but I don't have a BA is psychology) see the first page or so as being quite honest and clear with the OP's inane question/observation that exists to decry female homosexuality as unfair and generally not in line with his patriarchal world view. But, after that, the point had been made. The next page and a half, as I read them, is entirely shtick, with a couple exceptions of course.

*puffs on her Freud pipe*

Now, to me, this kind of attitude (for I am merely highlighting this as an example, I'm not ASSUMING that the poster just did it to feel self-important and made an overly dramatic declaration in order to get attention and is actually coming back to see how we've reacted), this...well I guess audacity is a good word, is exactly the same mindset as the OP who asked "why are you homosexuals? Stop that, it's not fair anymore", either that or he JUST discovered the internet two weeks ago and isn't filtering obviously fake profiles. But I'm inclined to call it the former.

Now, I understand where this young man is coming from. I can't stand male domination. It makes me sick to my stomach to have to be in its presence. If you want to get me in a foul mood, just point me to a profile where some 20-something girl is calling some 40-something guy her love, her everything, her joy because he's so much better than she is. I will start ninja-slicing everything around me (you know? Ninja slice! when everything in a ten foot radius is cut to ribbons but it has to dramatically fall at a perfect angle as the pieces separate? =P). Which is a problem since I have a few male dom friends, but I politely tell them to leave me out of it or I won't be around anymore, and sometimes I do separate myself from it rather than start drama. I TOTALLY understand, honest, how a straight, non-femdom oriented male might see our joking that way.

But, I have never gone to the "Ask a Master" boards and talked about how they're doing it wrong. Nor do I tell young women to give up on men (unless I'm seducing them).

I would argue with him that, yes, there IS a rampant, blatant degradation of the submissives as women. But that's my opinion. That's my life reflecting back on what I see, that's my upbringing rearing it's head. What makes it okay for women to say something self-deprecating (self-degrading?) but not men? Women it's their place and they're being cherished, but for men it's "giving up their dignity"? I don't want to pull the female empowerment card here, because honestly I think it's a weak card at only two mana, but REALLY?

Now, just judging by the subject's profile, of course, it appears to think of BDSM in terms of an exchange like that of a prostitute, "here's something I want, I'll get something you want". And then, disregard it outside the bedroom. This shows a deep-seated self loathing of the subjects own submissive nature, that he feels he must hide it behind the bedroom door. Oh, excuse me *adjusts the couch and continues smoking her Freud pipe* As I was saying, for such a man, submission is a fantasy escape from the real world. And certainly, with a military background it seems likely that he would be ashamed of such a relationship (see, I can make gross generalizations too).

And, breaking the fourth wall again, is any of that REALLY worse than equating lifestyle D/s to pedophiles?

Ultimately, the picture the subject presents in his argument is that of a redneck. A religious, cultural traditionalist who is made so uncomfortable by surroundings that are alien he must lash out at them. Albeit in a very passive, and quasi-intellectual way. Someone who sees D/s in a sexual context, the same way he probably views homosexuality. Someone who has to be reminded that, no, a lesbian is someone who falls in love with and desires women, not a woman who "has sex with women". That living the nuclear family dream is not the only way to live.

Though ultimately, I am reminded of my Tai-Chi class, and a student asked "Sensei, how can I practice Tai-Chi at home? It seems really out of place". And my Sensei responded so: "Everything is Tai-Chi, when you sit down properly, you are practicing. When you open the fridge on your breath, you are practicing Tai-Chi. You don't need a mat or have to take off your shoes to do Tai-Chi."

Likewise, femdoms and lifestyle female supremacy aren't always about fucking like rabbits and being called bad names and wearing leather fetish gear to the grocery store with three naked men crawling behind you. Although it makes me wonder WHERE this guy lives if he sees that in public so much he's compelled to call anyone who practices outside the bedroom a pedophile and rapist.

I'm Andy Rooney, signing off.


I really like that synopsis Succi! You do have some incorrect assumptions about me (I'm not a redneck, lol) and what I said (I said I don't see the sacrifice of dignity and self-deprication in female subs as I've seen in this thread in the men; and to further on that it would be just as wrong if female subs said the same things these guys say here).

Anyway, that being said, I respect your opinion, and I do apologize to the others in this thread for attacking them so harshly, getting rather too extreme in my anti-feminist opinions, lol; I was very upset when I made that post, but I'm back down to Earth now. So, again, please forgive me for my outburst, and Succi, thank you for the well-thought out intellectual post, maybe someday we'll sit in a coffee shop smoking our Freudien pipes discussing the psychology behind BDSM :), although, I'd rather have you sitting on me, if you catch my dift =D.
Edit: Oops, scratch that last part, you're a lesbian trans, still, you're very attractive and I don't see any hint of 'man' in you, well done! BTW, I've always wondered about this, if you are a lesbian MTF trans, you were born a male and you like females, so wouldn't that make you heterosexual? Always wondered about that lol

Laters




EmilyRocks -> RE: Why do most mistresses seek females? (10/10/2011 4:25:35 PM)

quote:

and what's worse is the women here not even stepping in to point out the good things about guys
There are good things about guys?




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