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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 11:33:13 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		"After reading the law, I can find NO reference to giving children vaccinations, just treatment for sexually transmitted diseases. "

I saw the mention of prevention, perhaps you missed it. However that does not prove the OP. There ain't any vaccines for the clap.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/20/2011 11:37:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Prevention of a sexually transmitted disease. Gardisil would qualify, I do believe. The rest state the treatment of certain diseases.....Flu shots, MMR's and the like would not, under that heading.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/21/2011 12:54:04 AM   
Termyn8or


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This is really a non issue. You know I love a good conspiracy and as any of us with a brain know there are plenty going on. Some by the governement or factions therein of course and some in the private sector. Some are even joint ventures. Now we do have the most unsophisticated level of sheeple around that believe that there are no conspiracies at all, as well as those who are as extreme as those who will embrace any ridiculous notion on a whim.

All this up-in-armsness is over nothing. Who knows what impelled this action, the legislature is full of ninnies with knee jerk reactions. I can only imagine that some kid couldn't get his cure for something because his Parents were some kind of weirdo cultish assholes who don't understand simple logic, the logic that you can always kill yourself or someone else but you cannot undo that. The box of rocks is smarter.

It's different when it's me and I say my immune system will take care of it, but these young fucks have no idea of this shit. And their Parents are frequently just as ignorant.

But I have this question now, the OP has a link and the title of the OP says "Pharma  backed". Where did that come from ? I mean the link said nothing of the sort. If it was pharma backed I would of course view it with more suscpicion because they have a vested interest in the issue, but I saw absolutely nothing even alluding to any connection.

Can someone clear that up ?

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/21/2011 1:01:25 AM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Its simple... pharmaceutical companies sell vaccines. In order for the sensational headline to make sense, it has to be pharma backed.

Apparently devoid of all conscience, soul, and any trace of respect for human life and dignity, the drug industry is now resorting to new lows to force its deadly vaccines on the unsuspecting public. If Big Pharma cannot convince people to take the deadly shots of their own free will, then the poisons must be secretly injected into the weakest and most vulnerable members of society, the children, without their parents knowing about it.

This legislature is not about vaccinations singularly, no matter how hard alexboy pushes that issue.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/21/2011 1:28:58 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		What is the source for the italicised part ? Jones ?

You know what bothers me about these people who spin actually more than regular media ? The boy who cried "wolf". You see one day those assholes might get their hands an a real story and just because they are involved people are not gong to believe it.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/21/2011 1:48:26 AM   
tazzygirl


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I tend to try and go through the sources pa posts, in hopes that I dont miss that one story when it comes along. So I do try.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/21/2011 1:55:13 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		If you want real news go to AFP. They at least have brains. They are also surpisingly objective considering their background.

I can go get a sample if you would like.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/21/2011 2:11:58 AM   
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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/21/2011 2:16:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

If they are able to consent for an abortion with out their parents, why not a vaccine?


it undermines the family structure. 

May as well have a kid and hand them over to the state.



Can we hand you over to the state?

Oh, never mind.

I'm pretty sure you are already institutionalized.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/21/2011 8:16:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see nothing wrong with this law, there are lots of fruitcakes out there who would refuse treatment to an ill child for "religious grounds".   We actually have a similar law in PA, only reverse, which states that anybody of the age 14 has the ability to dictate mental health care.  I ran into that law when I was trying to get treatment for my son who has bipolar disorder.  He didn't want the treatment and I couldn't force him once he turned 14.  Though I hated it, I understood the reasoning for such a law to be because too many will lock away their rebellious teens in private mental institutions and the law prevents that to some extent.  But it doesn't help the kids who really need treatment and refuse it.  The only thing that helped my son was becoming involved with the justice system when he was 15 and correctly ordered into a treatment facility.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/22/2011 5:35:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: erieangel

I see nothing wrong with this law, there are lots of fruitcakes out there who would refuse treatment to an ill child for "religious grounds".   We actually have a similar law in PA, only reverse, which states that anybody of the age 14 has the ability to dictate mental health care.  I ran into that law when I was trying to get treatment for my son who has bipolar disorder.  He didn't want the treatment and I couldn't force him once he turned 14.  Though I hated it, I understood the reasoning for such a law to be because too many will lock away their rebellious teens in private mental institutions and the law prevents that to some extent.  But it doesn't help the kids who really need treatment and refuse it.  The only thing that helped my son was becoming involved with the justice system when he was 15 and correctly ordered into a treatment facility.



...I know you dont want to hear this-  but  I love PA.   One day you will see how that law is a good one.     Glad you posted this.   I would not want to live in any other state. 

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/22/2011 6:44:39 AM   
xssve


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Status: offline 		A vaccine against Hep B? Horrors.

Nothing compared to what Texas was doing, prescribing ADHD meds to school kids without even notifying their parents.

I don't know if 18 is the magic number where you're suddenly responsible for your own health choices - if you think you're old enough to drink, drug and have sex, that's probably a good time to start.

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/22/2011 6:57:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is terrrible!

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/22/2011 9:45:16 AM   
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Nothing compared to what Texas was doing, prescribing ADHD meds to school kids without even notifying their parents.


Got a link for that? I was starting a response about over diagnosis of ADHD but wanted to make sure your initial premise was correct.

http://www.ldonline.org/article/5992/

Statistics like these have provoked publicity (e.g., Dawson, 2001; Marks, 2000) and created concern among parents and teachers. The overdiagnosis of children with ADHD and the large increases in the production of stimulant medications have led some states to political solutions. The boards of education in both Texas and Colorado have adopted nonbinding resolutions recommending that schools consider alternative, nonmedical solutions for children with behavior and attention problems. The concern behind these resolutions is that teachers are too quick to recommend medication to parents (Porter, 2000). Congress has gotten into the act, too. On September 9, 2000, the Education and Workforce Committee heard testimony about schools that were forcing parents to put kids on medication (Sack, 2000).

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RE: Pharma-backed legislation to allow secret vaccinati... - 9/22/2011 2:27:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course, there's a slight difference between unnescessary scrips for ADHD drugs and birth control. (Or vaccines, come to that.)

The fact that conspiracy boy is trying to equate the two is disgusting.

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