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Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 8:53:39 AM   
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Like most speeches, it was well delivered. It also wandered quite a bit, and on the topic of Israel and Palestine, laid out little in real terms. He did frame the issue quite well though, and said nothing about previous stances regarding the pre-6 day war borders - what most like to call the 1967 borders.

The only reaction I saw from the crowd was the Palestinian delegate shaking his head.

He pissed all over Syria, but played nice with Bahrain. And then... he wandered. Overall, good speech, not much on meat.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-seeks-save-mideast-policy-u-n-debacle-141831692.html

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - President Barack Obama pressed Israel and the Palestinians on Wednesday to relaunch peace talks as he made a last-ditch attempt to avert a U.N. crisis over Palestinian statehood and pull his Middle East policy back from the brink of diplomatic disaster.


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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 9:10:02 AM   
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He droned on and on. The only notable part was his moral equivalency between terrorism and self defense and his kumbaya bullshit about Israeli's and Palestinian's wearing each others shoes. The only radical Muslim who would give a Jew his shoes is Richard Reid.

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 9:46:54 AM   
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He did drone, that's for sure. Maybe the election in New York had him reconfiguring given he stayed away from 1967.



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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 9:49:22 AM   
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He droned on and on. The only notable part was his moral equivalency between terrorism and self defense and his kumbaya bullshit about Israeli's and Palestinian's wearing each others shoes. The only radical Muslim who would give a Jew his shoes is Richard Reid.


One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Of course, MOST people involved are neither. They just want to get on with their lives.



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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 9:49:26 AM   
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He did drone, that's for sure. Maybe the election in New York had him reconfiguring given he stayed away from 1967.




Yeah, whether its real or posturing is hard to tell, but he does seem to have pissed off the Palestinians more than the Israelis this time around.

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 9:52:23 AM   
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He did drone, that's for sure. Maybe the election in New York had him reconfiguring given he stayed away from 1967.




Yeah, whether its real or posturing is hard to tell, but he does seem to have pissed off the Palestinians more than the Israelis this time around.


BFD

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 10:56:29 AM   
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He droned on and on.


Dude ... Face it, your fucking brain just has a region that can't hear a good speech by a liberal even if it was in the bus that ran the legs of your Barney's suit pants as you sit on some SoCal sidewalk, back propped up against the racquet club panhandling for your next tax cut.



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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 11:02:33 AM   
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Of course, MOST people involved are neither. They just want to get on with their lives.


I remember in 1980 sitting in my apartment in back bay watching bin laden on a 60 minutes piece being regaled as a savior of Afghanistan by Mike Wallace, while we carved up a slab of has that was stamped in gold with crossed aks and the inscription "Guns For Afghanistan" and on the other side stamped with a gold tiger and "Russia No".



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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 11:11:07 AM   
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Why are we still in the "U.N." when *our government* in Washington *knows* that The People want out of it?
This is just another case of our govt. not listening to The People.

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 11:11:41 AM   
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*How* do you *know* *this*?

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 11:13:09 AM   
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*The*People*apparently*.*



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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 12:51:14 PM   
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his relationship to facts is tenuous at best

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 2:08:16 PM   
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Why are we still in the "U.N." when *our government* in Washington *knows* that The People want out of it?
This is just another case of our govt. not listening to The People.


Popeye... I just hate to see you unhappy about anything ... See nothing in your posts get a decent rhyming basis to them....
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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 2:15:23 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

Why are we still in the "U.N." when *our government* in Washington *knows* that The People want out of it?
This is just another case of our govt. not listening to The People.


Popeye... I just hate to see you unhappy about anything ... See nothing in your posts get a decent rhyming basis to them....
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thats the ugliest Buddha Ive ever seen. Looks like zero after a bad acid trip.

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 2:29:25 PM   
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thats the ugliest Buddha Ive ever seen. Looks like zero after a bad acid trip.


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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 2:30:28 PM   
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Too out of focus to see on my computer.

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 2:32:54 PM   
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Too out of focus to see on my computer


JUST CLICK THE FUCKING THING


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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 8:47:45 PM   
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his relationship to facts is tenuous at best
tenuous my ass...he has no relationship with anything of a factual nature.
By the way you have mail

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RE: Obama addresses the UN - 9/21/2011 10:19:59 PM   
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his relationship to facts is tenuous at best
tenuous my ass...he has no relationship with anything of a factual nature.
By the way you have mail

Not absolutely convinced of that slavemike. Though I've seen no proof or confirmation, I have a sneaking suspicion that, on one of his good days, he recognises his own name.

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