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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/25/2011 1:28:47 PM   
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I don't like being forced to do anything. I get no enjoyment from doing things I absolutely hate. I do those things anyway because I like knowing he's happy and satisfied and because it's what I agreed to.



This.


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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/25/2011 1:32:42 PM   
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It sounds like you're at least a little like me in that the knowledge--or even the fantasy--that your pain pleases its deliverer increases your capacity for it. It almost frightens me to think of how much suffering I might be able to withstand if a woman I admired only said, "Do you have any idea how much I enjoy this?"


Mmm, I'm going through this now. We're in a very positive feedback loop :)

I've also noticed how much more I am willing to endure for him.


i can agree with this. it's a good part of my motivation; knowing the other person wants it and is enjoying it.

as far as craving what i hated goes... i don't know if i've ever had that feeling. i've craved things i was afraid of, but that's different. i like submitting. and when i run into walls where i say "oh geez i can't do that," or "i don't like that," i try to push past them because that's my end of the bargain.


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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/27/2011 2:34:01 AM   
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My job requires all employees, regardless of fitness level, to check in with a health coach at least every three months in order to get a reduced insurance rate. I like to think of myself as physical self-discipline personified, so I naturally resented this from the beginning. The first time I called my assigned coach, who happened to be a woman, I arrogantly took immediate control of the conversation, declaring that I was going to describe my exercise and nutrition regimen down to the last rep and gram, and she would then be free to suggest any improvements that came to mind. As if you could possibly have any, my tone implied. I was like that every time, and sometimes even sarcastic. God, was I a prick. I could always tell she just wanted to be done with me.

Yesterday, I tried a Crossfit class for the first time. For anyone who doesn't know, Crossfit is a group exercise regimen that involves powerlifting, explosive bodyweight exercises, sprinting, kettlebells, rowing, and more--pretty much something from every category of exercise. The goal is to produce the most well-rounded human machine possible. The workout I did involved 50 kettlebell swings, 50 box jumps, 50 medicine ball tosses--then 40 of each, 30 of each, 20 of each, and finally 10 of each, ideally with no rest at all. It kicked my ass. I sucked more than almost anybody. My pride made me push through a great deal of the pain, but eventually I felt I had to stop and rest or have a heart attack. Once, while I was sucking wind while the kettlebell rested on the floor at my feet, the coach came by and asked how many reps I had left in this cycle. Five, I said.

"Okay, five more--now," she said briskly, pointing at the infernal weight.

A part of me wanted to leap up and say, "How dare you insinuate that I'm not fully applying myself?" But then I realized I hadn't been; if I'd really wanted to, I could have pushed through the last five reps, and I wouldn't have come close to dying from it. I did as she told me--I submitted--and knew, however much I wanted to hate myself for it, that I was better off because of her discipline. And then, it was as if a switch flipped. Having been forced to see myself honestly, I now wanted to give full reign to the part of me that craves a woman's control. Please walk be me again, I thought, almost against my will, every time I'd given all I thought I had and stood with my pulse pounding in my head. It felt good to yield, to be made to face myself honestly, even if the woman had no idea what was going on.

I'm like this a lot with submission--very ambivalent. Anyone else?


You're submissive? Huh. I thought you were dominant for some reason. Oh well. Live and learn. ;)

My brother has been doing the crossfit thing for a few months now and I hear the tales. He thought he was fit before doing it, but it kicked his ass too. :D It definitely sounds like a humbling experience for those who see themselves as being in physically good shape.

I used to describe myself as submissive. In very many ways there is a part of me that is and I can't change it. But...I've always been pretty headstrong when it comes to "obeying orders" and with the point I'm at in my life I don't know that I want to be in a submissive role in a relationship. That doesn't mean I want to be dominant - hell no.

When I read the thread title, I was anticipating a different sort of OP. Because I never thought I'd be into masochism. I wouldn't say I hated the idea. I just figured it wasn't for me...until the first time I was tied up and beaten. I don't even remember how I ended up in that position, but it exposed me to activities I lust after now.


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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/27/2011 9:29:22 AM   
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You're submissive? Huh. I thought you were dominant for some reason. Oh well. Live and learn. ;)


I always thought he was dominant too.

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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/27/2011 12:08:22 PM   
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I'm a switch who swings hard in both directions. Depending on which of my posts you happen to read, you might get the impression I'm either dominant or submissive.

Actually, DeviantlyD, your comment about inadvertently discovering you're a masochist is right in line with what I'm talking about.




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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/27/2011 10:52:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NiceGuyNihilist

I'm a switch who swings hard in both directions. Depending on which of my posts you happen to read, you might get the impression I'm either dominant or submissive.

Actually, DeviantlyD, your comment about inadvertently discovering you're a masochist is right in line with what I'm talking about.


A switch. Well, at least I wasn't totally out to lunch on my impressions. ;)

I gotta ask...and of course, given that it's a sort of personal question, I wouldn't expect an answer...but what sort of business do you work for that makes the physical fitness requirements that it does? I'm not asking for the name, I'm just curious as to the field. I realize it's to get a lower insurance rate...but still...interesting. I wonder if it might be the wave of the future, considering the whole smoking thing is becoming an issue with employers.


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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/28/2011 12:50:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD


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ORIGINAL: NiceGuyNihilist

I'm a switch who swings hard in both directions. Depending on which of my posts you happen to read, you might get the impression I'm either dominant or submissive.

Actually, DeviantlyD, your comment about inadvertently discovering you're a masochist is right in line with what I'm talking about.


A switch. Well, at least I wasn't totally out to lunch on my impressions. ;)

I gotta ask...and of course, given that it's a sort of personal question, I wouldn't expect an answer...but what sort of business do you work for that makes the physical fitness requirements that it does? I'm not asking for the name, I'm just curious as to the field. I realize it's to get a lower insurance rate...but still...interesting. I wonder if it might be the wave of the future, considering the whole smoking thing is becoming an issue with employers.



I'll just say it's a business that does not require anything in the way of athletic prowess from its employees. The libertarian in me hopes it's not the wave of the future. Let's have more individual initiative and less mollycoddling, damn it! But, as one of the most self-disciplined exercisers I've ever known once said with bald-faced arrogance, "Unfortunately, not everyone is like me." And I've already admitted that I work out harder with a woman kicking my ass, so I can't claim to be a complete rugged individualist. Maybe some people really need a coach to quit smoking in the way that I seem to need a pretty woman with shoulders almost as broad as mine to give me opprobrious, sidelong glances when I stand panting over a kettlebell.


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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/28/2011 12:58:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NiceGuyNihilist

I'll just say it's a business that does not require anything in the way of athletic prowess from its employees. The libertarian in me hopes it's not the wave of the future. Let's have more individual initiative and less mollycoddling, damn it! But, as one of the most self-disciplined exercisers I've ever known once said with bald-faced arrogance, "Unfortunately, not everyone is like me." And I've already admitted that I work out harder with a woman kicking my ass, so I can't claim to be a complete rugged individualist. Maybe some people really need a coach to quit smoking in the way that I seem to need a pretty woman with shoulders almost as broad as mine to give me opprobrious, sidelong glances when I stand panting over a kettlebell.



I mentioned smoking because I've read of employers who basically give their employees an ultimatum about smoking because of insurance costs. I don't recall the fine details, I was just reminded of it at the mention of insurance.

I know this will sound harsh, but I think the idea of individual initiative, as you put it, is wishful thinking, given the state of western society today, particularly in this country. Obesity is at an all-time high, people seem more passive about getting involved in society that at any other time and that's not to mention a few other things that aren't exactly optimal in terms of healthy living. Hey, I'm the eternal optimist about many things, but what I've witnessed through my job makes me a bit cynical about an individual's ability to take care of themselves in a healthy way.

On another note...so what kind of fantasies has this trainer inspired in you anyhow? :D

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RE: Realizing you really crave what you thought you hated - 9/28/2011 9:42:28 AM   
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On another note...so what kind of fantasies has this trainer inspired in you anyhow? :D


Only one actual fantasy, really; for the most part, I'm more than content with the innocent pleasure of being subject to her discipline to the very small extent that I am in reality. But okay--it's kind of an oddball fantasy. I have a habit of picking up a barbell with my thumbs wrapped around the same side as my fingers, so that if it slipped, I likely wouldn't be able to catch it. It's bad and dangerous, but I'd done it for scores of workouts before I ever started Crossfit, and it's a tough habit to break. She's already had to say "thumbs on the other side" at least a dozen times, and I can tell her patience on the point is wearing a bit thin. "Exasperated" might be the word. So, I have this nice little daydream that I go to a play party and happen to see her there. We exchange the somewhat awkward, blushing hellos you'd expect. I socialize with other people for a while, assiduously not looking at her, then arrange to do a scene with someone I know well. I'm naked and blindfolded with my wrists chained high overhead; I'm to be spanked with a paddle. The spanking begins, and quickly turns playful. Lots of friendly chatter from the spectators. I'm grinning; the room is grinning with me. I can’t see it, but I feel it. A jovial male voice I don't recognize asks to take a turn; I'm asked for consent, I give consent, the anonymous man paddles me. The paddle changes hands again, and again, and again. Again. It’s all a whirlwind; I couldn’t say whether I’ve been hit 50 times or 200. I'm drenched in sweat; my ass feels sun-scorched. I'm trembling. I wonder if she has paddled me. Can't take much more. Suddenly a small, soft hand cups my chin.

"Which side of the bar do your thumbs go on?" comes a mischievous woman's voice from about the height of my chest. A familiar voice. She speaks so softly I can barely hear her. In spite of myself, I grin so hard my cheeks ache. I throw back my head and laugh. Others are laughing with me. No one else could have gotten the joke, had they even heard it, but this is a night for contagious laughter.

I hear the vicious whistling of the paddle before it strikes, but not soon enough to prepare myself. Not nearly. I've just registered the meaning of the sound when the blow arrives, briefly annihilating the world. It is heartless. It is the five worst hits so far rolled into one. It makes me wail and thrash against my chain, thumping the stout wooden beam to which I'm connected overhead, in a pitiful cacophony. My ears are ringing, but I'm barely aware of that. Only when my own tortured animal noises die away do I realize the room has grown silent but for me. I am aware of the need to beg for mercy, but my throat is stuffed with tears. I still have enough stubbornness not to cry--just enough--and so I only hang there, swollen with unshed tears, chain pulled taut by my limp weight, saying nothing. In limbo. Moments pass.

"Which side?" prompts the voice. It seems to have shed a thin layer of its patience. Just a thin layer, but under the circumstances, it's enough to terrify me. Thinking of the woman’s well-sculpted shoulders, a feature which places her physique at the razor’s edge of graceful femininity, I am sure she could hit even harder if she wanted to. I hear a few hushed whispers from different directions.

"Opposing side," I manage to say in a choked voice, then hasten to correct myself: "Opposing side, Ma'am.”  It is divine to address her in the way I yearned to do but never dared when she corrected my lifting form, or praised my drive. The pleasure is almost enough to drive my tears to the surface.
“Good boy!” she says heartily, and wallops me again. That’s it—I’m crying.
I suppose the extremely slim chance that she’ll read this little fantasy, and roll her eyes and laugh, added to the pleasure of writing it.



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