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RE: How I find great submissives - 5/23/2006 5:13:31 AM

meatcleaver

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You have your wicked way with them and then send them off into the big wide world?

I can buy your rationalisation. It's as good as any.

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RE: How I find great submissives - 5/23/2006 5:25:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: Wickad

I have to say I agree with the OP....

Though, I think it applies to all new folks be there an inclination for Dominance or submission. I also tend to meet all kinds of new folks online, suggest some resources, and point them in the direction of the local community. Sometimes I even hang back in the shadows if they need a bit of encouragement. I do, however, have a rule that I won't play with you until you know who you are in this lifestyle and what you want from it. There doesn't seem to me to be a whole lot of sense to developing a deep and meaningful D/s dynamic when the person you are developing it with has no idea what they bring to the table or if they want to even sit at the same table.

It's great to see others who aren't predatory.

Wickad

PS - ohhh, almost forgot.... the idea that some little 'ole' submissive needs to have their hand held, ushered along, and protected from all that life is really sickens me. Dominant or submissive, these are all supposed be adults involved in this lifestyle.

Excellent post, especially the post script.

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RE: How I find great submissives - 5/23/2006 7:14:46 AM

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Cleaver,

It is quite clear it isn't spelled clever, because not only are you almost useless as a foil, your ability to comprehend what you read seems to be pretty limited as well. Be careful of your assumptions, where do you see me speak of playing with them?

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RE: How I find great submissives - 5/23/2006 7:21:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Cleaver,

It is quite clear it isn't spelled clever, because not only are you almost useless as a foil, your ability to comprehend what you read seems to be pretty limited as well. Be careful of your assumptions, where do you see me speak of playing with them?

If you were not so touchy you would have noticed the question mark.

I really hold no bourgeois values on whether you do or you don't play with them.

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RE: How I find great submissives - 5/23/2006 7:34:52 AM

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Thanks for my laugh of the day, actually two really because I read your profile. Married eh?

Please note the question mark. I realize thinking about lying and cheating is SO bourgeois but I guess I am just a victim of my socialization.

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RE: How I find great submissives - 5/23/2006 7:42:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Thanks for my laugh of the day, actually two really because I read your profile. Married eh?

Please note the question mark. I realize thinking about lying and cheating is SO bourgeois but I guess I am just a victim of my socialization.

No. I have been married. I have two daughters. 15 years and 6 months. I live with neither of the mothers.

I don't do online and I'm quite happy for anyone to meet me in my home town, street, appartment when I'm here that is.

I don't need to keep anything from anyone. In fact if I game someone my name they would easily be able to check me out by googling.

I have a studio appartment in Amsterdam and a studio in London and I have a dealer in San Francisco.

And I don't need to rationalise.

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RE: How I find great submissives - 5/23/2006 8:22:21 AM

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     From what I have read here and what I understand is that most new subs love all the play and fun stuff but need to learn that there is a lot more to being a sub than just the scenes and the play. Either through maturity or experience or both of these, they need to learn how to give in order to receive. They need to learn how only through mutual respect, trust, and love can a true M/s relationship exist. This takes more time and effort than most subs realize and most of the new ones (inexperienced) don't want to extend that kind of effort.

    I can understand why most Mistresses and Masters don't always want to take the time and effort to train new subs, only to have the subs find out they can't handle the reality and then leave. Sure, play is fun and exciting >grins< but a true relationship is based on much more than that. I have always believed it is better to give than to recieve and I get most of my pleasure just by pleasing others. I have been burnt in past relationships by those who only took advantage of me this way, but I know I will find someone who will appreciate what I have to offer.

Submissively,
    Nikki Ann

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