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Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Over En... - 9/23/2011 8:42:41 PM   
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Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Over Environmental Concerns

Remember how Obama recently waived new ozone regulations at the EPA because they were too costly? Well, it seems that the Obama administration would rather make people with Asthma cough up money than let them make a surely inconsequential contribution to depleting the ozone layer:
Asthma patients who rely on over-the-counter inhalers will need to switch to prescription-only alternatives as part of the federal government's latest attempt to protect the Earth's atmosphere. The Food and Drug Administration said Thursday patients who use the epinephrine inhalers to treat mild asthma will need to switch by Dec. 31 to other types that do not contain chlorofluorocarbons, an aerosol substance once found in a variety of spray products. The action is part of an agreement signed by the U.S. and other nations to stop using substances that deplete the ozone layer, a region in the atmosphere that helps block harmful ultraviolet rays from the Sun. But the switch to a greener inhaler will cost consumers more. Epinephrine inhalers are available via online retailers for around $20, whereas the alternatives, which contain the drug albuterol, range from $30 to $60.
The Atlantic's Megan McArdle, an asthma sufferer, noted a while back that when consumers are forced to use environmentally friendly products they are almost always worse:


Full article at http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-administration-ban-asthma-inhalers-over-environmental-concerns_594113.html




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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/23/2011 8:44:46 PM   
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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/23/2011 8:51:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just go back to the old style nebulizer that I used when I was a kid.

Got the asthmanephrin, I think it was called. OTC. 2 drops, squeeze the bulb and voila. I could breathe.

No CFC's or even any kind of propellant.

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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/23/2011 8:51:50 PM   
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Oh, everything will be free. Only problem will be finding any.

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No problem. The albuterol will be "free" under Obamacare.


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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/23/2011 9:38:13 PM   
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It's bogus.  It was signed and enacted under the Bush 43 administration.  From little green footballs:

After conducting some research which took me all of 5 minutes it was revealed that this was not an act secretly concocted by the Obama administration but in fact one created during the Bush White House years and finalized in November of 2008:

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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/23/2011 9:51:57 PM   
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Actually here is the MSN article that the Weekly Standard story was based on, and MSN leans pretty hard to the left

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44627081/ns/today-today_health/t/otc-inhalers-be-phased-out-protect-ozone-layer/#

And any way you cut it, the EPA and the FDA are under the direct control of the Obama administration, and this action is occurring now. If Bush did sign it then it reflects poorly on him as well. Its a mistake for the Federal Government under Bush or any other president to sign a treaty that makes our healthcare more inconvenient and more expensive for no good reason.

Such decisions are better left to the states or, even better, the individual.The fucking president shouldnt be deciding what kind of inhaler a person uses, that isnt his job.






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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/23/2011 10:46:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		More expensive? Why is someone using an over the counter inhaler to begin with? That should be prescribed by a physician and a prescription written.

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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 5:39:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was thinking the same thing, Tazzy. You need a prescription for an (effective) asthma inhaler. In fact, the last otc remedy for asthma, that I recall was a Chinese herb that they concluded could give you heart problems. And Will is right, albuterol and most drugs in inhalers can (and still are) nebulized. As far as an epinephrine inhaler (if they do have epinephrine inhalers), there is an epi-pen. A little needle, much like the diabetic type needles, only sold thru prescription, that you can take if you are having a status asthmaticus episode, or an anaphylactic shock episode, or any other life or death situation, which is what epinephrine is used for. And also, some asthma and COPD inhalers are medicines in powder form, inhaled as a powder (check out Advair or Sprivia) that has no impact whatsoever on the ozone layer.

Sanity's link is the source of him quoting otc inhalers. So unless he has asthma, he's just believing (or possibly only passing on the link for a controversial debate?) he wouldn't know any better. OTC inhalers, to my knowledge have long since gone away, along with the little bronk-aid tablets they used to sell otc. If you're an asthmatic without insurance or a dr to prescribe you asthma medicine, the ER is your best bet, if you get into trouble. Now, if we had affordable insurance, with premiums determined on a sliding scale based on income, we may be able to limit the cost of an unpaid ER visit. But there are options.

This move, if it were to really happen, wouldn't doom asthmatics.

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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 10:24:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		they use CFCs which have been banned for donkeys years,t he fact that this is only occuring now is actually a good thing..however you may wanna whine about it. It should have been done years ago./
Whinning about losing personal choice over being unable to purchase something is like whinning about not being able to buy ak47s....... find something else that is NOT on the market.
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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 10:41:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		One of the inhalers in question is Primatene Mist. When using such drugs over the counter, there is no follow up for effectiveness, no determination if that is the best course of action, no testing, no nothing.



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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 10:42:36 AM   
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So... the president needs to take charge of every detail, every aspect of our lives?

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One of the inhalers in question is Primatene Mist. When using such drugs over the counter, there is no follow up for effectiveness, no determination if that is the best course of action, no testing, no nothing.




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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 10:43:10 AM   
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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 10:44:53 AM   
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Who anoints the FDA czar...


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I do believe it was the FDA who made that determination.


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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 10:45:02 AM   
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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 10:47:07 AM   
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The president didnt ban these for health concerns, the only problem is that their use is not politically correct

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Isnt that what lawyers are for? to pick up the pieces?? that the FDA miss?
LMFAO (not laughing at people who get fucked over by bad meds, but at the thought that the thought that meds should be untested for "freedom of choice" believers*


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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 11:39:42 AM   
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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 11:43:47 AM   
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And these little inhalers are going to destroy the planet...

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We have banned lots fo things because they were not good for the environment



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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 11:49:04 AM   
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The long and short of it is that CFL systems have been banned for years , changing from CFLs to other delivery systems is outdated and OLD news is NOT new.
SO the OP Claim is bullshit, Paranoid ODS again

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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 11:50:56 AM   
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Whatever happened to your pretending that you had me on ignore, luce

Yeah, "thick is as thick does... "

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Thick is as thick does.
The long and short of it is that CFL systems have been banned for years , changing from CFLs to other delivery systems is outdated and OLD news is NOT new.
SO the OP Claim is bullshit, Paranoid ODS again


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RE: Obama Administration Set to Ban Asthma Inhalers Ove... - 9/24/2011 12:04:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is merely a scare tactic.. yet again. Inhalers are not being banned... just the bullshit over the counter ones that did not comply with the new law.

Right now, the only such inhaler is marketed by Armstrong Pharmaceuticals, a unit of Amphastar. The company could not be immediately reached for comment.

The inhaler, called Primatene Mist, is used for temporary relief of occasional symptoms of mild asthma, and is the only FDA-approved inhaler sold over the counter without a prescription, the FDA said.

The product uses CFCs to propel medicine out of the inhaler so patients can breathe it into their lungs. The FDA said some manufacturers now use a propellant called hydrofluoroalkane instead, which is less harmful to the environment.

The FDA first proposed phasing out the use of CFCs in asthma inhalers with epinephrine in 2006, and finalized the phase-out in November 2008.

They had three years to change it. They did not. Their loss.

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