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Aneirin -> The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 6:11:55 AM)
The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see money does not exist in the twenty fourth century. The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity A quote from a movie I am watching at the moment, and a very enticing collection of words, but I wonder what would it take for those words to become our reality ?

paulmcuk -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 6:20:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin I wonder what would it take for those words to become our reality ? The destruction of humanity and the rise of a new species. Or, on a slightly less pessimistic note, advances in technology which mean that every human need can be catered for with little or no need for us to work for it. I'm talking robots to do all the work and Star Trek (it's an ST movie you're watching, right?) style replicators coupled with unlimited free energy.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 8:35:28 AM)
Actually there would be no need for economics. For that place to exist there would have to be no scarcity of anything. As soon as there is scarcity of anything of value there is economics, and as soon as there is scarcity then acquisition of the scarce resource becomes a goal.

Aneirin -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 9:53:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Actually there would be no need for economics. For that place to exist there would have to be no scarcity of anything. As soon as there is scarcity of anything of value there is economics, and as soon as there is scarcity then acquisition of the scarce resource becomes a goal. Which all bears down to individual power seeking, what a shit species we are, better hurry up and destroy ourselves before we destroy everything else in our quest for individual power.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 10:17:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy Actually there would be no need for economics. For that place to exist there would have to be no scarcity of anything. As soon as there is scarcity of anything of value there is economics, and as soon as there is scarcity then acquisition of the scarce resource becomes a goal. Which all bears down to individual power seeking, what a shit species we are, better hurry up and destroy ourselves before we destroy everything else in our quest for individual power. Its what makes us great AND what makes us shit. Thats why I cant buy the pure libertarian ideology.

SternSkipper -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 12:26:44 PM)
quote: Actually there would be no need for economics. For that place to exist there would have to be no scarcity of anything. As soon as there is scarcity of anything of value there is economics, and as soon as there is scarcity then acquisition of the scarce resource becomes a goal. Wrong... All the spoils will go to the winner of the annual Snomobile race on Lake Winnipesaukie.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 1:04:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: Actually there would be no need for economics. For that place to exist there would have to be no scarcity of anything. As soon as there is scarcity of anything of value there is economics, and as soon as there is scarcity then acquisition of the scarce resource becomes a goal. Wrong... All the spoils will go to the winner of the annual Snomobile race on Lake Winnipesaukie. There would be no material spoils, since there would be no scarcity, anybody can get anything anytime. All contests would be for pride only.

SternSkipper -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 4:18:52 PM)
quote: There would be no material spoils, since there would be no scarcity, anybody can get anything anytime. All contests would be for pride only. Pride huh? Fuck that would represent a massive learning curve for you, wouldn't it?

SternSkipper -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 4:31:18 PM)
Board Cough

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 4:35:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper Board Cough Pride is a sin, I wouldnt touch that shit! Quiet confidence is more than sufficient. [:D]

SternSkipper -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 4:44:32 PM)
quote: Quiet confidence is more than sufficient. re Pride That is SO right ... and it's FAR too often folks think because of that 'quite', and of course what you're willing to post that ya have none... Hey ... I went out and got ya a hat to wear in your brave new world... [image]local://upfiles/18637/632914A149CA4C6B938AA8F271FD8A26.jpg[/image]

tj444 -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 4:46:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see money does not exist in the twenty fourth century. The acquisition of wealth is no longer the driving force in our lives. We work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity A quote from a movie I am watching at the moment, and a very enticing collection of words, but I wonder what would it take for those words to become our reality ? well, if you have money then wealth (or creating more) isnt necessarily a driving force now. If you believe that the Gates have their charity to better the rest of humanity (and not merely a tax dodge as some claim), then there is perhaps a twinkling of that now... "Johnson and at least some his peers in Born Rich seem to recognize that the best antidote to decadence and rot is work. Josiah Hornblower, the Whitney-Vanderbilt heir, dropped out of college for a couple of years to work in the oil fields of Texas. They were "probably the best two years of my life, the most important years of my life," he said. "Really, what I learned is that working hard makes me feel good." Now he goes to work every day as a financial analyst." http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2003/11/24/353786/index.htm

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 4:46:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper quote: Quiet confidence is more than sufficient. re Pride That is SO right ... and it's FAR too often folks think because of that 'quite', and of course what you're willing to post that ya have none... Hey ... I went out and got ya a hat to wear in your brave new world... [image]local://upfiles/18637/632914A149CA4C6B938AA8F271FD8A26.jpg[/image] And youre proud he's your boyfriend Im sure! And its Aneirin's brave new world, not mine. I already said it could never happen, since there will ALWAYS be scarcity of something.

Aneirin -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 5:13:58 PM)
Yeah, scarcity of conscience and morality. But hey , whatever, as long as money keeps coming in, fuck everyone else. But yeah, I for one would like to see an end to this shite life, for sure history has taught us nothing, we are too blind on our own desire for comfort. For I do believe the good of the many exceeds he good of the one Yeah, I have socialist leanings, but I am not a socialist

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 6:00:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin For I do believe the good of the many exceeds he good of the one Yeah, I have socialist leanings, but I am not a socialist I agree...but the pursuit of the good of the one is what maximizes the good of the many. Yeah I have capitalist leanings but..oh...wait. [:D]

Aneirin -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 6:53:11 PM)
Capitalism is killing the world you have to agree ? And in response to your first sentence, my answer; not in all cases

willbeurdaddy -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 7:06:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin Capitalism is killing the world you have to agree ? Obviously not.

Aneirin -> RE: The economics of the future....... (9/25/2011 7:08:57 PM)
Silly of me, how could I ask such a question of you.

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