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RE: Bless the oil companies - 9/27/2011 11:06:05 AM

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extreme leftists want to have it both ways, as always.

By "extreme leftsts" you mean those of us who know they won't spend it on that equipment they were legally obligated to buy and didn't

Note that the exteme leftists who voted in and signed that law at the BEGINNING OF 2006 would by most extreme leftists standards have been overwhelmingly described as either nutsuckers, or extreme rightists (administration, both houses).

So now they advocate throwing their own laws under the bus, and that brings a couple problems to mind, this means that the nutsuckers have been fucking off for more than this last house session...

And there is no celerity in the 'coservative' outlook, no plan, no principle, only hysterical overreaction to everything.

So, again they are for it, before they are against it, just like everything else they have ever expounded.

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RE: Bless the oil companies - 9/27/2011 4:30:01 PM

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"Never mind..."

If you read into the article, its to pay for pollution control equipment, the extreme leftists want to have it both ways, as always.

From crazy lucys article:

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The refund request has to do with a piece of technology used by refineries to minimize pollution. Beginning in 2006, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency began requiring refineries to remove sulfur dioxide from diesel and gasoline in an attempt to reduce vehicle pollution. Many refineries had to either upgrade existing "hydrotreater" units or purchase new, more effective equipment.

Leftists want to drive all industry offshore is the thing, and they want energy costs so high that grandma freezes this winter

Ah the old scaremongering about Grandma freezing.

If you read the article past the bit you quoted you would have seen this bit, from the commission staff.

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At first, the request was denied. The commission's staff said the hydrotreaters reduce pollution in diesel and gas, not necessarily at the plant. In fact, staff said, the hydrotreaters actually increased sulfur dioxide pollution near the refineries because the toxic gas is now burned off in a flare.

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RE: Bless the oil companies - 9/27/2011 8:02:45 PM

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As if profits are evil...

Not at all. Just the small matter of making job-losing and home-losing citizens fork over even more Federal grants or "tax incentives" via more tax dollars to record-breaking profits oil companies in furtherance of foisting anything resembling either financial or social responsibility from themselves onto everybody else.

It's a 130 years venture, and I venture to say that they are keeping up with the changing times quite well.

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Why should they build the refineries that we need here ...

Good question.

Indeed, why should they, when all the oil companies have to do is to re-open even one third of the 300 domestic refineries that they intentionally shut down by their own doing in the last thirty years in effort to intentionally reduce output in service to supply-control of prices?

Indeed, why should they?

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RE: Bless the oil companies - 9/27/2011 11:36:22 PM

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Hey guys, go easy on poor Sanity.

I know his brain is in much the same condition as all those mothballed refineries. But the poor man has been so comprehensively chewed up and spat out (as they say in Texas) in this thread, what's left of his 'sanity' must be in a very fragile state.

Perhaps we could leave him alone with his disastrous self-defeating contribution to this thread to contemplate for a while. After a suitable period of licking his multiple deep wounds, he might actually gain some insight into how infantile and idiotic his politics are .........

Or is my incurable Aussie optimism completely unrealistic in this aspiration?

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RE: Bless the oil companies - 9/27/2011 11:41:05 PM

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PASADENA, Texas (AP) — Three commissioners appointed by Gov. Rick Perry may grant some of the nation's largest refineries a tax refund of more than $135 million — money Texas' cash-strapped schools and other local governments have been counting on to help pay teachers and provide other public services.

The property tax refund would mean more pain for some communities after a year in which state lawmakers grappled with a $27 billion shortfall and slashed spending on public schools by more than $4 billion. Nearly half the refund would be taken from public schools, and those in cities where the refineries are based would be hurt most.
http://hosted2.ap.org/txdam/54828a5e8d9d48b7ba8b94ba38a9ef22/Article_2011-09-26-Refineries-Tax%20Exemptions/id-09c744771d9d4ea7ac1e3724c1a83532

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