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Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/26/2011 9:07:15 PM   
NiceGuyNihilist


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Status: offline 		My new gym recommends it, and I'm looking at it with an eyebrow fully raised. Most meals consist of a portion of lean protein (usually animal flesh), a truckload of vegetables, a generous portion of healthy fat, and, with the rare exception of a sweet potato or bit of fruit, no carbohydrate-dense foods whatsoever. It's the italicized bit that has me worried. As Foghorn Leghorn might say, "There's somethin' kinda yeeehhhhhhh 'bout a diet that forbids oatmeal!"

Anybody tried it? Did you feel like shit? I think I would.


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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 12:59:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Never tried it, but it sounds quite close to the famous Atkins Diet.

My neighbour did that one...and ended up with constant heartburn, constipation and shockingly bad breath.

This one may be a little more balanced, I dunno. All I know is that I can't live without carbs. I don't eat bread or pastries, but I need my porridge, banana, potato, pasta and rice. Otherwise my energy levels are going to go on a wild roller-coaster ride and I'm going to be sooooo bad-tempered

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 2:57:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		the bad breath may have been because of all the nitrogen. bad breath and bad body odor sometimes involve the body excreting all the nitrogen it picks up from eating lots of meat.

i have a friend who tried paleo (the dude from Nerd Fitness preaches it as gospel) and she said it seems to have righted her bizarre sleeping problems and fluctuating energy levels. she recommends it.

im a vegetarian, though, and the veggie version of paleo would probably leave me deficient in a lot of nutrients. it relies so heavily on meat, and i'd just rather not eat meat. i've been able to lose 30 lbs by eating like a normal modern vegetarian and running, plus running helped me sort out my sleeping problems and feel more energetic, so i don't feel the need to figure out how to follow a new diet.


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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 4:13:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		No paleo thing for me.

For me, it's all about common sense. If by now, in our super information age, a grown adult does not know what a healthy diet is, they are mentally challenged.

Mostly healthy, non processed, hopefully mostly raw....fruits and veggies is number one. Complex carbs number two, and lean proteins number three.

Most people would benefit from a few simple changes. Eating as I describe, moving their ass an hour a day and drinking less sugary beverages and a lot more water. Add some weight to the exercise mix and you've got a good body changing a comin.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 4:18:40 AM   
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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 4:32:40 AM   
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For me, it's all about common sense. If by now, in our super information age, a grown adult does not know what a healthy diet is, they are mentally challenged.


This is a line I see variations on a rather shocking amount, and the best part is every single time it's followed by a different dietary suggestion. In no other arena besides religion do you see so many people offer so many differing opinions as if they were the only logical choice.

As to the paleolithic diet, I'm not anywhere near qualified enough to comment on it nutritionally, but it sounds boring as fuck so I'm going to pass.


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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 4:41:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually healthy is arbitrary. That is common sense as all bodies are different. Eating what you call healthy would have me constantly hungry and tired.

And folks here's a clue all veggies are carbs. So you aren't giving up carbs.

Paleo is interesting. They consider it I believe a "caveman" diet because they say you eat like the hunters and gathers. It's different from Atkins as atkins eventually has you incorporating all types of food back into your diet so when you have reached maintenance you can pretty much eat anything u want just within the parameters the plan has helped you figure out.

I don't know why you would need oatmeal in a diet. But as paleo focus eating natural foods oats would belong in that as one of the exceptions. However it could be that most people eat crap processed oatmeal instead of steelcut oats with nothing on them.

All in all, you find what works for you. Read all yOu can on a plan that interests you and find out why and how it works. Protein and fats are a must for me. Veggies second. Fruit is a rare occassion concept for me.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 4:49:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Certainly each of us have a slightly different version of 'healthy'. There are many factors to consider when determining your own version. But considering the high number of over weight, out of shape, UN healthy people running about, most of us are not doing ANY of those versions.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 5:20:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree completely, which is why i said healthy eating is arbitrary, to me, it was your comment about common sense that isn't accurate.  Most people adults especially have been eating in very unhealthy ways that they have no clue what is healthy for them and so they have to figure out what works for their body.  If you ask people, many will believe low fat products are healthy, because that's what they grew up with.   So i disagree an average person would know what is healthy - especially if they are overweight and out of shape, they can guess but when it comes to their own body, they would need to do some major trial and error until they find the right balance of types of foods for them and how their body reacts to same.


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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 5:30:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		I suppose that it doesn't matter the diet you're on, as long as you are healthy, ya know? I mean, it sounds a bit much to be having all 6 servings of carbs, 3 servings of veggies, 2 servings of fruit, 2 servings of dairy, 2 servings of meats (poultry/fish/nuts/etc) and 1 serving of fats. They want you to stay until 2000 calories? Yeah, nice try guys...


Anyways, back on track. Personally, I think that as long as you are eating healthy and not starving yourself, those fad diets shouldn't come into play.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 5:50:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		This diet does sound similar to others out there, as others have mentioned.

With endo', my vitamin and mineral levels can practiacally flatline at times. If i start to feel sluggish, i will modify my meals to what i call " red / green ".
Red raw meat, tomatos, tuna, raw salmon, overcooked broccoli, raw spring-mix leafy stuff . Come to think of it, my cats like all these foods as well...

i don't really think of it as a diet in the sense of trying to lose weight, that isn't the purpose. Nor is this standard of what my meals normally look like.
The goal is to reup what i've lost in vitamins. As soon as i get to feeling 'normal' again, all those yummy carbs just seem that much yummier.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 6:08:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		You must be going to crossfit, they push this diet heavily.
My friend and I did paleo 30' her more successfully than me. It is boring and kind of difficult too, if you ever eat out. You absolutely cannot drink, so if you like a glass of wine once in a while, you have to give it up. On the bright side, it makes you feel fantastic, it really does. She lost ten pounds, I didn't make it through the whole 30 days. I certainly don't think it can hurt you, so it isn't like some crazy fad.


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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 6:27:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		@FelineFae - I know what you mean about the 'sluggish'... I'll go to point in life where Im craving the "reds"; raw steak, raw fish, etc. I think it's because I naturally have low iron levels, so when it dips too low I know it's time to start gnawing on some steak. Lol

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 7:05:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		One other thing I really liked about paleo, is it got me to switch from regular milk to coconut milk.  You won't even notice the taste difference, there is yogurt and ice cream made from coconut milk, and I felt better cutting dairy out of my diet.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 8:32:15 AM   
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no carbohydrate-dense foods whatsoever.
So, like, we're talking no ice cream right? I don't think so Charlie, I'm not interested if there's no ice cream. I won't even go out on a date unless there's ice cream involved.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 10:59:08 PM   
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no carbohydrate-dense foods whatsoever.
So, like, we're talking no ice cream right? I don't think so Charlie, I'm not interested if there's no ice cream. I won't even go out on a date unless there's ice cream involved.



The Paleolithic diet, as I understand it after reading the 40-page booklet my gym gave me, allows you to eat any kind of food you want on "special occasions." But, the authors admonish, the occasions must be really special--weddings, graduations, holidays. If we're talking dating life, I suppose it would roughly work out to "first time anal" special.


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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/27/2011 11:39:53 PM   
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No paleo thing for me.

For me, it's all about common sense. If by now, in our super information age, a grown adult does not know what a healthy diet is, they are mentally challenged.

Mostly healthy, non processed, hopefully mostly raw....fruits and veggies is number one. Complex carbs number two, and lean proteins number three.

Most people would benefit from a few simple changes. Eating as I describe, moving their ass an hour a day and drinking less sugary beverages and a lot more water. Add some weight to the exercise mix and you've got a good body changing a comin.


Yep this. Simple stuff folks.


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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/28/2011 12:16:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well well well. Here we have people saying that different diets were better for them, but not for others decades after Dr. DiAdario was chided for suggesting such a notion. And his iridology which has been of course FULLY discredited has been under scientific study since.

Hmmmm.

And that Rodale, isn't that the guy who died at about 42 ? the one who got dizzy because a neighbor cropdusted ? And this seasalt, the 1979 encyclopedia describing seaswater as having all the minerals needed for life, but it is just mud, we need Morton's. Oh, and we need Dow, and Pfizer and ADM and who's the other one ? They were in the news lately so I forgot, something about the corn not being corn anymore.

You see, we need these advancements in technology, because it is obvious that all those who went before us died.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/28/2011 7:23:30 AM   
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I don't know much about diets but had the view before that a late period Old Stone Age to Middle Stone Age diet (roughly say from a point of around 150-100,000 BC as the more modern Stone Age tool kit gradually developed to 10-4,000 BC) made a lot of sense because the transition from the hunter-gatherer lifestyle to farming in the New Stone Age was in the blink of an eye in the time frames considered. This would have brought with it a radical change in the primary food stuffs people were eating. People would have gone from eating a very small amount of grains taken from nature to it dominating their diet. Modern human beings evolved and lived through most of their existence in a hunter-gatherer lifestyle so it makes sense the older form of diet that came with that life suits best. However, the Paleolithic diet seems to have too many vegetables judging by what the OP said. It would have varied around the world but mostly fruits and berries gathered would have made up the majority of the diet with some vegetables and more modest amounts of meat and fish.

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RE: Anyone here tried the paleolithic diet? - 9/28/2011 11:23:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I do a strict self-made modified version of several diets including The Blood Type Diet (which was AWESOME for me, but isn't practical for my whole family as the other two are O and I am A), Weight Watchers and the P90X maintenance plan.  It seems to work for me. 
It's mostly just fresh fruits and vegetables, some lean meats, minimal dairy (give me stomach issues anyway) and very little fat.  I like it.  I feel good when I eat that way and it works with my fitness regiment (which is also pretty strict).  I don't think it would work for everyone, but I think that's kind of the point.  You have to find out what works for YOU and what YOU can live with. 
My diet, for example, is not something that I will do for a month and then just give up.  I am on my "diet" 24/7/365
Do I drink alcohol? Yes.
Do I consume sweets? Yes
But I do both of those things with the knowledge and understanding that I will have to cut back on other "treats" (such as cheese or beef).  Everything in a balance. 

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