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Real0ne -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/3/2011 7:56:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Yeah he is talking about the quantum foam, the continual appearance and disappearance of pairs of virtual particles. Nothing whatever about a physical medium in which light moves which is what the ether was supposed to be. If you cannot understand the difference between a useful logical abstraction and a model of the physical universe perhaps you shouldn't be reading advanced physics.


on the contrary its you who should stick with macrame.

He is parroting tesla (and others) theory from BEFORE 1900 and he is describing the ether and he said he does not want to call it ether ONLY because it has a bad rap from the eintards.



Physicists Measure Elusive 'Persistent Current' That Flows Forever October 8, 2009 [image]http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/2009/physicistsme.jpg[/image] Harris made the first definitive measurement of an electric current that flows continuously in tiny, but ordinary, metal rings. (Photo: Jack Harris/Yale University) (PhysOrg.com) -- Physicists at Yale University have made the first definitive measurements of "persistent current," a small but perpetual electric current that flows naturally through tiny rings of metal wire even without an external power source.



precisely according to Nikola Tesla.


the only thing that is new is the ability to actually "see" it which does not qualify it as a "new" discovery.


Not only in theory but teslas transmitter captures that energy at ratios of 1million out to 1 in.

My first question for you sir is why MIT has not recognized Teslas work 100 years ago. (the MIT professor not you ken)










Real0ne -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/3/2011 6:05:18 PM)


[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/meyl.gif[/image]


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text from video:

October 2003 - Wireless transmission of electricity - according to Nikola Tesla

In this video you will see a small electric motor boat with no onboard power of any kind. The boat is receiving power from Scalar Waves being sent from the Scalar-wave transmitter located above the covered tank.

Scalar-Wave Transmitter
This device transmits power without wires to the boat in the tank below. the second tower is also receiving power via scalar waves. Look at the base of the 2nd tower to see small lights being lit via wireless transmission of power.

SCALAR WAVES
This experiment is based on the work of Nikola Tesla and is presented here by Professor Dr. Konstantin Meyl - University of Applied Sciences - 1st Transfer Center of Scalar wave technology - St. Georgen, Germany


OUH!  Dayitis!

This was invented and proven OVER 100 years ago by Nikola Tesla!  What the fuck happened?

Hows steiner boys crooked-time-space-fart speed limit working for ya?

Oh and btw if you look at MITs work on transmitting power to laptops they totally fucking lie about how the technology works.



Real0ne -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/3/2011 6:22:59 PM)

pre 1900 tesla lights bulbs wirelessly 26 miles away from transmitter colorado springs.

[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/TeslaWirelessLightsCS.png[/image]



Real0ne -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/4/2011 6:10:13 AM)

Tesla published a prepared statement on his 81st birthday (July 10, 1937) critiquing Albert Einstein's theory of relativity. The following is a portion of that statement:

- But even if it existed it would not explain the motions of the bodies as observed.

Only the existence of a *field of force* can account for the motions of the bodies as observed, and its assumption dispenses with space curvature.

All literature on this subject is futile and destined to oblivion.

So are all attempts to explain the workings of the universe without recognizing the existence of the ether and the indispensable function it plays in the phenomena." 

Today reanamed gluons and other shit ANYTHING but ether by those stealing Teslas work.

"My second discovery was of a physical truth of the greatest importance. As I have searched the entire scientific records in more than a half dozen languages for a long time without finding the least anticipation, I consider myself the original discoverer of this truth, which can be expressed by the statement:

There is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment." — Nikola Tesla

e = mc^2

and now MITards are stealing teslas work by lying about how their transmitter works to keep the speed limit myth (and their GRANT MONEY) alive and well.

Its all about stealing patents!

RICO!

I do feel their pain!

That one boat needs a bigger tin foil hat so it will run smother and faster.

BWHAHAHA!

The man was legitimately bitter after what this country did to him but at least he made it perfectly clear and published the truth regarding steiner boys bullshit.

where did the shit house physicists run off to?






mnottertail -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/4/2011 7:36:59 AM)

They are postings ignorant rants under your nick.

There is little reason to suppose that space lies in straight lines when the bulk of celestial objects and the preponderance of natural things are not of a linear makeup.




Real0ne -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/4/2011 4:51:47 PM)

well mr physics then I am sure you would not mind showing your brilliance and telling us why and what the specific and distinctive difference is between a wave that travels and "c" (186000 mps) and one that travels at "pi/2*c" (292000mps).

If not maybe you can at least get us to laugh at some good bullshit.


tesla transmits wierless electricity lighting a bulb 100's of yards from his transmitter in 1899!!! 

YES that is EIGHTEEN99!


[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/TeslaWirelessIllustration.png[/image]



DomKen -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 5:22:35 AM)

Back in the real world.

Looks like the mystery may be solved. It was a mistake in compensating for relativistic effects between the GPS sats used for timing and the emitter and detectors on the ground.
http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php



mnottertail -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 6:31:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

well mr physics then I am sure you would not mind showing your brilliance and telling us why and what the specific and distinctive difference is between a wave that travels and "c" (186000 mps) and one that travels at "pi/2*c" (292000mps).



the MOST specific and distinctive difference is that one of them exists, the other does not.

Glad you asked, but this is nowadays gradeschool physics and I am actually rather taken aback that you are unaware of something so fundamental.



mnottertail -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 6:36:43 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Back in the real world.

Looks like the mystery may be solved. It was a mistake in compensating for relativistic effects between the GPS sats used for timing and the emitter and detectors on the ground.
http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php



Shades of Michelson-Morley!!!!! My heart was beating faster than the speed of light for a moment.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 12:47:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne



tesla transmits wierless electricity lighting a bulb 100's of yards from his transmitter in 1899!!! 



BFD. Any kid with a couple of strong magnets can "transmit" electricity. Too bad induction is so ineffecient all its good for is charging your cell phone on a mat...that has to be plugged in.



FirstQuaker -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 4:03:19 PM)

Induction itself is efficient enough, it is the coil losses due to coil impedance and hysteresis losses , and air losses combined with the lack of a field focus that does it in.  A sharply focused superconductor coil in a vacuum would be very efficient indeed  But back in the real world . . .

It is nice to see the error was merely due to "elephants trying to weigh and mesure grains of sand with 2x4s."

But nothing should be surprising when you put that much energy into some particles, neutrinos or otherwise. As I noted earlier, they have been telported and sent back in time, at least by our measuring sticks.



Edwynn -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 6:02:18 PM)


I truly understand where all the "show me the science!" sentiment comes from. But neither Feynman or Schrödinger or Einstein ever saw it in the same way. Just to keep things in perspective here.






Owner59 -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 8:20:47 PM)

Boo! Hiss! Dutch Scientist Rains on Faster-Than-Light Neutrino Parade


Don't fire up your spaceship's FTL drive just yet, folks. Those neutrinos that CERN scientists thought they saw traveling faster than the speed of light a few weeks ago look like they may have only been moving at close to light speed.

Last month, a team of international researchers shocked the scientific world with the news that particles they had been firing for several years from the CERN particle accelerator in Switzerland at detectors at the OPERA facility in Gran Sasso, Italy placed about 450 miles away appeared to be arriving at their destination faster than the time it would take light to get there.

The particles, traveling through air, water, and rock, shouldn't have hit the Gran Sasso detectors sooner than about 2.4 thousandths of a second after being fired, which is the time it would take light to travel the distance between the two points. Yet the CERN researchers reported that their neutrinos were getting to the target 64 nanoseconds faster—meaning that they were traveling faster than light, supposedly impossible according to the Theory of Special Relativity.

Now other scientists say that a failure to fully account for the effects of relativity is what caused the original researchers to supposedly mis-measure the time it was taking the neutrinos to travel using a GPS satellite, despite the CERN team saying they had factored relativity into their calculations.

A new paper by Dutch researcher Ronald A.J. van Elburg lays out the case that the GPS satellite measuring the neutrinos' movements was also moving relative to the CERN and OPERA facilities as it orbited the Earth. Briefly, van Elburg asserts that the effects of relativity as they pertain to the GPS satellite's measurements require two corrections to the perceived time of travel.

Lo and behold, it turns out that applying that double correction shaves 64 nanoseconds off the neutrinos' travel time, according to van Elburg, "[t]hus bringing the apparent velocities of neutrinos back to a value not significantly different from the speed of light."




http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394747,00.asp#fbid=tamfTw-6yX5



Kirata -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 9:00:12 PM)


Psssssst...

Looks like the mystery may be solved

K.



Owner59 -> RE: Breaking the ultimate speed limit (10/15/2011 9:01:13 PM)

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