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strongbottom88 -> RE: Brutal exercise as preliminary to woman-on-man "rape" (10/4/2011 8:52:06 PM)
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ORIGINAL: NiceGuyNihilist
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst
But.. If the woman is using his ass with a piece of something that is not her flesh, not stimulating her in some way.. what is she getting out of taking some guy that is just laying there?
I mean.. except for my old acquaintence with anger issues.
Still have her number?
It wouldn't have to be a strap-on session. That was the first thing that came to mind, but it could also be a spanking, "forced" oral sex, face-slapping, or a dozen other things. Even just being taken by the chin and lectured while my muscles were violently quivering would be hot. I'm really showing my do-me bottom tendencies here, aren't I? Well, yeah, I guess I am, but I also wouldn't want to do any of this if I felt it was an onerous chore for the woman. I'm a far cry from a service-driven submissive (usually), but I much prefer it when my selfish pleasures give equal pleasure to my partners.
What gratification might a woman get out of strap-on-fucking Superman after giving him a kryptonite bath? I have to admit that the question itself leaves me a bit flummoxed. I think I'm so hardwired to enjoy physical helplessness and brute force for their own sake (as both a top and a bottom) that I have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that someone else who identifies as kinky doesn't intuitively understand the appeal. That's my limitation, not yours. When I manhandle a submissive woman who's much weaker than me physically, I experience incredible pleasure whether or not my dick is inside her. The satisfaction I find in her powerlessness, and my untethered ability to make her weep and beg with utter sincerity, eclipses any sexual pleasure I might experience, to such an extent that sex is almost incidental. Maybe I'm more different than I thought.
The problem I see with Missokyst's quote is that the same question could apply to any bdsm activity that doesn't lead to direct and intense sexual stimulation. What if the guy is bound instead of just lying there? What if a top, male or female, whips or beats or bites or tickles a bottom. None of this leads to direct sexual stimulation for the top. Why is it satisfying to anyone. Yet, I think most people would agree that this type of play happens a lot. It is arguable that a big part of the thrill of being a top is the empathic understanding that the top is both controlling the experiences of and providing a rush to the bottom - perhaps not all that different from vanilla sex where one person is pleasuring another without bringing direct sexual pleasure to themselves (oral sex for example).
NiceGuyNihilist, the problem with this whole thread is that it just isn't a practical or plausbile scene in most circumstances. It is an understandable type of fantasy, for a male bottom or sub to want a woman to be able to physically control him without any consensual gimics like bondage, but if you are a guy of any significant size or strength how many women can realistically carry out this type of scene on you? And of the few who can, how many are actually going to be interested in doing it. There are already far more male bottoms than there are female tops, and this type of scene makes it a true search for a needle in a haystack.
I would suggest, if you really want to pursue this type of scene, you either need to improvise or seek out professionals. I had a girlfriend when I was in grad school who liked to jump me from behind and try to lock me in carotid choke holds and she would catch me from time to time. I have also had tops "overpower" me with my hands tied behind my back - and I'm a big gorilla of a guy so this was plenty cool for me.
On the other hand, this is the one type of scene I would advocate looking to pros to experience at least once if your curiousity is strong enough. Several years ago, my curiosity got the better of me and I tried a couple of pro sessions with three dommes at a time for this type of scene. I talked with them quite a bit before hand, and they were all lifestyle dommes as well as pros and they gave me a very good "rate" in large part because it was such a novel type of scene and they were curious about it themselves. I basically said take me down and overpower me and then do whatever you feel like doing to me and that is exactly what they did and they were brutally rough (and even rougher the second time).
Be careful what you wish for though, because having three strangers you have no established trust bond with overpower you that forcefully and treat you that roughly can be a little nerve wracking and more than a bit humbling. In the end, it did give me an appreciation for women as being more physically capable then I previously thought and it also gave me at least some perspective of the type of physical trust women must have to put in men in social interaction in general - assuming the men are considerably larger and stronger. So, overall, it was an experiment I do not regret, and in fact I still have contact with one of the women, several years later as it was a particularly interesting scene for her as well.
Short of these two approaches, it is probably a fantasy best left to the imagination.
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