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erieangel -> Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 2:44:08 AM)

I'm not liking the timing on this considering SCOTUS will soon rule on the Afford Care Act. 

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/politics/article576548.ece




subrob1967 -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 3:42:35 AM)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704288204575363112109060620.html

Slaughter needs to recuse herself from this partisan bullshit because it's obvious where she stands on Obamacare, and why she's going after Thomas.

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In March 2010, Slaughter proposed that a House rule be passed to expedite the passage of health care reform legislation. The rule allows the House to deem the Senate version of the health care reform bill "already passed" by the House without the House holding a recorded vote on the bill. Critics, who called the strategy the "Slaughter Solution", charged this proposed strategy was an affront to democratic principles and challenged its constitutionality. Supporters observe that the courts have affirmed the rule's constitutionality, and that Republicans have used the rule repeatedly to pass major legislation such as the Patriot Act and the Tax Relief Reconciliation Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Slaughter




DarkSteven -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 5:23:31 AM)

Please note that subrob's cited WSJ article does not address Slaughter, but is intended as a reference point on recusal.  IMO, it is not pertinent because the WSJ article was written regarding Kagan recusing herself based on prior opinions she had issued.  The situation erieangel describes is a Congresswoman pushing for an ethics investigation of a SCOTUS judge.

subrob, there is a huge difference between the actions of a judge and those of a Congressperson.  A judge is supposed to be impartial, and Congresspople are supposed to not be.  They are elected for their stances, not their lack of them.  AFAIK, there has never been an incident where a lawmaker recused themself.  Maybe you thought that Slaughter was a judge?

Boiling down erieangel's post:  Thomas did not declare income that was required to be reported for years.  Slaughter is pressing for an investigation, and I can't see how it can be avoided.  Clear violation of the law and possibly ethics.







RacerJim -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 6:14:09 AM)

Dirty lying SCOTUS Justice Elena Kagen (appointed by Obama) lied during her Senate confirmation hearing that as Obama's Solicitor General she wasn't involved in formulating the Administration's defense of Obamacare. Because of that she needs to at least recuse herself from the Obamcare case, if not resign/be impeached from office.




tazzygirl -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 7:16:25 AM)

As it was pointed out to me, she does hold office. However, when I think of someone "holding office" it was always in an elected capacity.





mnottertail -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 7:42:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RacerJim

Dirty lying SCOTUS Justice Elena Kagen (appointed by Obama) lied during her Senate confirmation hearing that as Obama's Solicitor General she wasn't involved in formulating the Administration's defense of Obamacare. Because of that she needs to at least recuse herself from the Obamcare case, if not resign/be impeached from office.



There is no be impeached from office. Impeachment is an official scolding, some people wipe their ass with them. SO I guess it has more than one use.




subrob1967 -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 8:20:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Please note that subrob's cited WSJ article does not address Slaughter, but is intended as a reference point on recusal.  IMO, it is not pertinent because the WSJ article was written regarding Kagan recusing herself based on prior opinions she had issued.  The situation erieangel describes is a Congresswoman pushing for an ethics investigation of a SCOTUS judge.

subrob, there is a huge difference between the actions of a judge and those of a Congressperson.  A judge is supposed to be impartial, and Congresspople are supposed to not be.  They are elected for their stances, not their lack of them.  AFAIK, there has never been an incident where a lawmaker recused themself.  Maybe you thought that Slaughter was a judge?

Boiling down erieangel's post:  Thomas did not declare income that was required to be reported for years.  Slaughter is pressing for an investigation, and I can't see how it can be avoided.  Clear violation of the law and possibly ethics.


No, I posted that after a sixteen hour shift, and bone tired.

My point was supposed to be that Kagan should be the Justice to recuse themselves, and that Slaughter was doing this as a purely political partisan witch hunt.

As to Thomas not disclosing the income, really? After all the tax cheats serving in the last three administrations, and Congress critters caught on the dole? Why is this an issue now?

We all know what's really happening here, so save the faux indignity about Thomas not disclosing that his wife made some money.




erieangel -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 8:26:45 AM)

subrob, Thomas withholding the information isn't some new concern.  It hit the media in January and Thomas immediately amended the reporting forms.  What is of concern, is why was he even permitted to amend the forms? It isn't like those forms are difficult to fill out and as a judge, he should know how to complete them.  So, another question becomes, why did he withhold that information??  I think that is the question Slaughter (and some other congress critters) would like answered.




Sanity -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/2/2011 8:27:37 AM)


Great point, its as if Obamas people have to have "Tax Cheat" in their resume. As for the Obama faithful, they see such things, and just turn their heads.




xssve -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 6:35:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

subrob, Thomas withholding the information isn't some new concern.  It hit the media in January and Thomas immediately amended the reporting forms.  What is of concern, is why was he even permitted to amend the forms? It isn't like those forms are difficult to fill out and as a judge, he should know how to complete them.  So, another question becomes, why did he withhold that information??  I think that is the question Slaughter (and some other congress critters) would like answered.

Two simple words in the English language: "IIIIIII forgot"!

Given that Heritage is a right wing propaganda mill, it's something I'd like to know.

I'd also, for personal reasons, like to know what she does there that's worth 70k a year.




xssve -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 6:38:30 AM)

wonkette to the rescue: http://wonkette.com/437153/yeah-clarence-thomas-wife-is-a-lobbyist




Real0ne -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 6:52:51 AM)

another stoopid assed tax collector whining about people who know how to read the tax code.


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Thomas never reported that his wife had been earning an income, as is required under the law. Instead, in the part of the form requiring each justice to report whether their spouse had any income, Thomas repeatedly checked the box next to the word “None.”




fact of the matter is that most people in the US do not make an income but they do not know it and the gubafia nice guys that they are gladly accept any mistake as a "gift" to themselves. 

You think the money made from your hard labor is income. . . .  hey THANKS!

Attorneys DO NOT fight for your "unalienable" rights, they cant, and tax preparers attorneys included will not rock the boat to save you a couple nickels so knowing the tax code is ALL ON YOUR BACK.

Ignorance of the law is NO EXCUSE!   60,000,000 million laws notwithstanding!

Title 26 was NEVER enacted into "law" yet they have how many people in jail over it?   Thanks to the gubafia and their deMOBcracy







thishereboi -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 6:58:15 AM)

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Boiling down erieangel's post: Thomas did not declare income that was required to be reported for years. Slaughter is pressing for an investigation, and I can't see how it can be avoided. Clear violation of the law and possibly ethics.


Yea, I think you got that right. The only thing that bothers me is the timing. According to the article his wife worked from 2003-2007, so why did it take so long for them to decide to do something about this.




Real0ne -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 7:00:37 AM)

really?

typical fucking presumption with no evidence entered into the record.

prove it was income.




thishereboi -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 7:08:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

really?

typical fucking presumption with no evidence entered into the record.

prove it was income.



I suppose it is possible that who ever you were responding to will recognize key words and give you an answer. But it really is easier if you just learn how to use the quote feature on here.




Real0ne -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 7:10:40 AM)

really?  LOL




mnottertail -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 7:29:48 AM)

Yeah, are you quoting Wesley Snipes? (3 years incarceration, income tax evasion...one of many who did not make an 'income' now in prison).




subrob1967 -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 7:56:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

subrob, Thomas withholding the information isn't some new concern.  It hit the media in January and Thomas immediately amended the reporting forms.  What is of concern, is why was he even permitted to amend the forms? It isn't like those forms are difficult to fill out and as a judge, he should know how to complete them.  So, another question becomes, why did he withhold that information??  I think that is the question Slaughter (and some other congress critters) would like answered.



Why are tax cheats allowed to continue to serve? Why are crooked politicians allowed to run for reelection? Why even bother asking these questions... This happened FOUR years ago, and it's plain to see this is just a partisan attack by Slaughter and her party.




Lucylastic -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 8:06:52 AM)

so now theres a time limit on tax fraud? since when?




subrob1967 -> RE: Dirty, lying Justice about to be investigated (10/3/2011 9:30:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

so now theres a time limit on tax fraud? since when?


Who's being charged with tax fraud?




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