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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/3/2011 7:51:48 AM   
LanceHughes


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BTW: the sub frenzy mentioned above is YOURS, not his nor the community at large.  New-bies LIKE what's happening to them and fall into a frenzy, thinking "I LOVE this shit.  Bring on MORE."  So, DEEP breaths - be patient - maybe his PC did crash, maybe he's thinking about your questions, etc., (as in Post # 37 by tazzy.)

Sure, there IS a "new meat" feeding frenzy by Male Doms, but you seem to be NOT having that frenzy.  ANd I wonder why not, but that's another thread altogether.

I add my DO NOT PANIC sentiments to the others.  Calm down, enjoy.  You seem to be getting the right answers to your VERY good questions.  Take it SLOWER!  I think you understand the MAIN point which is, of course, relationship FIRST, then "slap-n-tickle."  Basically, we're ALL saying "Seems you've got the cart slightly ahead of the horse."

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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/3/2011 11:39:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shysub4152

Well folks, he has still not responded to my questions as of this morning.....so I guess that tells me my answers!

Thanks for the advice everyone, and for helping me avoid at least one newbie mistake!


It's always good to avoid mistakes but I wouldn't bow down to quite all the "wisdom" you garnered here. Unlike most other posters, I believe you CAN get to know someone before meeting him/her face to face. Master and I "met" here years ago and began speaking on the telephone every day. It was six weeks before I was able to travel to meet him but we knew each other better than most people I'd ever "met" face to face. Just because some people don't think it's possible does not mean it isn't. Don't limit yourself just because some stranger on the internet tells you to. It is possible to know someone before meeting in the flesh. BTW - that meeting went wonderfully. I moved to him the following year and we've been married since 2008

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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/3/2011 7:57:53 PM   
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When i first met my husband there was no such thing as the Internet. (Yes i am that old). Even though i was young i could feel his domiinace immediately, because it was a natural part of him. That may be with this man, but you have to be very careful, because on line and on the phone they can pretend to be who ever they chose. Meet him for coffee, make sure this is not just an on line thing with him, and then start to decide where you want to go from there.

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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/3/2011 9:00:51 PM   
shysub4152


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He responded, and it was a well thought out and stated response that I am happy with....

LanceHughes-- The sub frenzy from DOMMES is very real. My inbox here was full within minutes of me even coming online....much less even filling out a profile. Same on ALT. I have to wonder why they are messaging me when they don't even have ANY information about me.
On top of that, come the messages that are completely inappropriate for strangers...looking for different things...far different age ranges....and then my personal favorite, one guy who sent me two messages that I just hadn't gotten around to responding to, and the next one he calls me a bitch!

So, for me it isn't that he was the only one .....but he was by far the most articulate and interesting to me....that's all..... However, still keeping options open....

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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/4/2011 6:01:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: shysub4152

LanceHughes-- The sub frenzy from DOMMES is very real.
The term "sub fenzy" doesn't refer to that. It refers to submissives that become frantic in their drive for experiences.


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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/4/2011 9:42:30 AM   
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Sub frenzy is the frenzy a submissive feels when they suddenly get a taste of D/s and want 'more' but are rather blind in what they want. Think drug addict frantically looking for the next 'fix'. It's why new subs often fall prey to silly mistakes in judgement, they're too busy looking for the next power exchange that they tend to let it skew judgement. (Not always but until you identify the feeling it can catch you unawares.)

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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/4/2011 9:51:55 AM   
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Some people do click online. They meet after they fell in love and it still lasts. Hell, there are vanilla couples who fell in love on the first date. Just because this is quicker than most does not mean it is by definition false.

As far as committing to each other, most people prefer to date multiple people at the same time. However some of us prefer to focus on one at a time. The fact that the woman down the block juggles five different guys doesn't mean you have to if you don't enjoy doing so. She does what works for her and you do what works for you.

I went into this expecting a dominant would know what he wanted and would naturally push for it. More important to me was what was his response when I said it was too fast a pace for me. Does this guy apologize and slow down? Because that makes him a good guy in my book. If he says no and doesn't care about your comfort level, that would be a red flag to me.

You folks might meet, marry and live happy ever after. You also might not. Time will tell.

Follow your bliss is always good advice.


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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/4/2011 6:42:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: shysub4152

I just started exploring the lifestyle and I have met an interesting man on ALT. We have been emailing for a few days and he has been teaching me alot about the submissive/dominant relationship. I have followed his basic commands or requests, because I am genuinely interested in him and pursuing this lifestyle....however, he has just assumed he is my DOM and I am now wondering if this isn't usually a more formal decision on both parts and if this isn't a bit soon? At this point, I am not even sure what he is looking for....what he desires/expects from me and this "relationship"... And he has been living the lifestyle for years....he is way ahead of me in terms of knowledge and experience.

He seems very intelligent, and kind while firm....and I am totally interested in exploring this further. He has been patient on the things that I am uncomfortable with....such as I don't yet want to talk on the phone. Not for lack of interest....just totally nervous and he understands I need to work up to that.

Would love some advice or input from others as this is my first experience with ALT, the lifestyle, etc...and I don't know what to expect



Yes, you can get to know someone through email exchanges, although a few emails over a few days is just scratching the surface.

You aren't comfortable talking on the phone with him yet (have you heard of *67? It blocks your number when you call someone), but you are comfortable with him telling you to shave your genitals? How does he know you did what he instructed? Did you send him pictures, or show him on web cam? If the answer to that question is "yes," then you should seriously back up.

As others have said, there are tons of self proclaimed dominants out there who will latch onto a newbie and start "teaching" them how to be a sub through online instruction. Typically, they are just looking to see how far they can get someone to go sight unseen.

Do NOT, and I can't stress it enough, send semi nude/nude photos to someone over the internet or web cam in a sexual manner (as opposed to you both using it just to virtual "face to face" talk) that you have never spoken to on the phone or met in person. I know it sounds paranoid, but really....you send him a picture of your newly shaven cootch and he could have posted it all over the web. Granted, no one probably will be able to recognize it as you, but still...do you want that to happen?

Also, and I know others have mentioned this as well, relationships in the "lifestyle" are still relationships. You are in your 40s', and I'm sure have dated throughout your life at some point. Online "stalker dom" types who love to find newbies and get them to accept being "trained" on line and give them orders are all over the place.

You say in your profile that you are not the "casual sex type," but you would possibly be interested in "online only." That IS essentially casual sex. Online, with no plans to meet face to face, both can be whoever they want to be. Yes web cams can make a person more real, but it still amounts to someone simply instructing you on things to do to yourself for their jollies.

If you want a relationship with some BDSM dynamic to it, conduct yourself just as you would in a vanilla dating situation. If you wouldn't have sex on a first date with a vanilla guy, don't do it with a kinky guy. If you wouldn't engage in cyber sex with a vanilla guy....I'm sure you get the picture. Get to know someone as a PERSON, then if you still like them, move on to kink. A lot of people (men more than women in my opinion), want to jump into the sex/BDSM stuff and then backtrack and see if they like each other enough to build a relationship on. To me, that is ass backwards. Relationships are not about "play" 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Do you want someone who can dom the daylights out of you, but you can't hold a conversation with?

Above all, remember that while you are exploring your submissive desires, you are still YOU, and until you meet that person that you click with and want a relationship with, there is no rule book that says you have to listen to the orders from any dominant. Even in the "getting to know you" phase, it doesn't mean he (used generally to fit OP) can tell you to do anything. A good man, a good dominant is going to want to get to know you as well, not just your shaved cootch.

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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/4/2011 6:54:15 PM   
shysub4152


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No, I have not sent any nude pictures nor would I. I appreciate the advice from so many of you in that regard.


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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/4/2011 7:20:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Plus (and I know this will hurt some feelings) but the people on ALT seem to be all about sex and only about sex. I would NEVER meet someone on ALT. (but that's just me)


Christina, if you're talking about the alt of today, I will agree with you.  But I made quite a few good contacts there ten years ago, when it was a viable site.



I joined about five or six years ago, the same time I joined this site. I lasted there about half an hour.

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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/5/2011 7:44:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


Yes, you can get to know someone through email exchanges
Getting to know someone online, means that you only get to know what they want you to know. If they're honest and sincere, yes, you'll get to know part of them. You won't see how they interact with the world. How do they treat the waitress? Are they angry at life? Will they look you in the eye? Do you have chemistry?

But, if they're not honest and sincere....you're getting to know a fairy tale.

So, here's the thing: I would use internet, email and phone as a precursor to meeting someone face to face. I would not consider it a relationship based on those interactions and I certainly wouldn't be taking orders.


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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/5/2011 8:25:13 AM   
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Getting to know someone online, means that you only get to know what they want you to know. If they're honest and sincere, yes, you'll get to know part of them. You won't see how they interact with the world. How do they treat the waitress? Are they angry at life? Will they look you in the eye? Do you have chemistry?


I will agree with this. I met N online and we knew each other for 3 years before we met in person. It was great meeting him and we had great fun. When he moved here though we did struggle as we got to know each other in a different way. It is not that we were keeping part of ourselves from each other intentionally but that it never had the chance to be seen online. It was a prickly walk there for a bit as we navigated the shore but now we are celebrating our 2nd year together in real life and it is fantastic. So yes you can get to know them online if they are honest about who they are but there are some things that you just cannot know about someone until you are physically with them.

That being said meeting online worked out wonderfully for me because i doubt i would have met him being he is from another continent and all. OP trust your gut and communicate honestly and good luck.

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RE: Advice needed for new submissive - 10/5/2011 11:49:04 AM   
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quote:

I just started exploring the lifestyle and I have met an interesting man on ALT. We have been emailing for a few days and he has been teaching me alot about the submissive/dominant relationship. I have followed his basic commands or requests, because I am genuinely interested in him and pursuing this lifestyle....however, he has just assumed he is my DOM and I am now wondering if this isn't usually a more formal decision on both parts and if this isn't a bit soon? At this point, I am not even sure what he is looking for....what he desires/expects from me and this "relationship"... And he has been living the lifestyle for years....he is way ahead of me in terms of knowledge and experience.

He seems very intelligent, and kind while firm....and I am totally interested in exploring this further. He has been patient on the things that I am uncomfortable with....such as I don't yet want to talk on the phone. Not for lack of interest....just totally nervous and he understands I need to work up to that.

Would love some advice or input from others as this is my first experience with ALT, the lifestyle, etc...and I don't know what to expect


shy,

Seems strange that all other factors would denote a valid Dom that knows what he is doing except for his rush to assume the relationship formality. Answer..........explain to him that your still feeling your way and must place the formality on hold for a bit until your more comfortable with it.

CP

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