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For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 4:36:25 AM

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Okay I have a question, which is coming from a place of ignorance, so don't yell or scream abuse from me, I just have no idea!

I'm curious, if lesbians (maybe only some, I'm not familiar with the lifestyle) like being fucked by strapons, does that mean that they will like being fucked by feminine TGs (MtF Pre-op) as well because it's pretty much a female with a dick?

This is in the sub section because it's about female subs being fucked by strapons by their female mistresses

Looking forward to hearing from you girls :)

Edited: Thanks DarkSteven for pointing that out!

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 4:57:21 AM

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Let me try to sort through some of this. You're treading on sensitive ground.

There are a lot of transgenders that do not appreciate being called trannies. Call them TGs if you want to save the keystrokes.

The specific type of TG you're referring to is a MtF pre-op. A post-op MtF will have no dick. An FtM will never have one at any stage.

Lesbians like being fucked by WOMEN. Period. The strap-on is merely a physical device, basically a dildo, which straight, les, and bi women generally liked to be fucked by.

Lemme repeat for you: People generally like being fucked by people. The bi/straight/les/Dom/sub/switch refers to the type of people they want to fuck and play with.

Does that help any?

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 5:12:25 AM

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A tranny or TG is still a male dressed as a woman...I'm very bisexual and TG's or whatever you want to call them don't work for me...

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 5:22:20 AM

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Thanks for the responses :)
Darksteven - I know what you mean and yes I should have been more sensitive with the label thing, I seem to have forgotten the sensitivities there
And yeah I know I meant MtF Pre-op :P
I just thought that there was a connection between wanting to be penetrated by a dick and perhaps wanting a real one, I'm still not sure

Diane - Well actually TGs often take hormones and get breast implants, and are, for most intensive purposes (apart from the reproductive parts), female. I'm not into them personally, but the similarity of a TG with a lesbian with a strapon makes me wonder

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 6:11:09 AM

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A tranny or TG is still a male dressed as a woman...I'm very bisexual and TG's or whatever you want to call them don't work for me...

Diane, I'm going to have to disagree with you. A CD or TV is indeed a man dressed as a woman (or less frequently, a woman dressed as a man). A TG is someone who has had or is about to have, hormone treatment or gender reassignment surgery.

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 6:15:34 AM

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Normally when somebody asks this <you're not the first> I assume they are trying to persuade me that I am really into men, or that they are speaking from ignorance and I give them Hell. But since you opened with an admission of the latter and you apparently jumped to correct a faux pas in terminology, I'll take you at face value and answer you without the Hell giving.

The answer is no. It's basically the way DarkSteven said, I like fucking women, that's why I'm a lesbian. In my case, I am so anti-phallic that I don't even use a dildo that looks like a penis, all the dildos we use are of the "non-realistic" variety. There may be some lesbians who are into TGs, but none of the three here are. The bisexual woman here isn't either, but says she'd probably go for one if she liked her, but not because she was a TG.

That being said, all four of us would consider a post-op MtF transexual a woman for all intents and purposes, and none of us would have any issues with having sex or a romantic relationship with one.

I hope that satisfies your curiosity.

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 6:17:30 AM

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quote:

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The specific type of TG you're referring to is a MtF pre-op. A post-op MtF will have no dick. An FtM will never have one at any stage.

*blinks* It's called phalloplasty. I suppose if you prefer to insist that nothing created surgically should ever be considered a penis, then your above statement is true in that context. Otherwise, yes, it possible for us to end up with dick-shaped bits that don't come off and stuff.

Though not a common choice for most trans guys to make, because a phallo is ridiculously expensive, and, last I even bothered to check (which was admittedly some years ago), the general consensus was that the end result isn't worth it unless you're suicidally desperate for your body map and genitals to match.

Oh, and for terminology, the umbrella term "trans people" probably covers the most ground with the least amount of potential upset.

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 6:24:08 AM

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quote:

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quote:

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The specific type of TG you're referring to is a MtF pre-op. A post-op MtF will have no dick. An FtM will never have one at any stage.

*blinks* It's called phalloplasty. I suppose if you prefer to insist that nothing created surgically should ever be considered a penis, then your above statement is true in that context. Otherwise, yes, it possible for us to end up with dick-shaped bits that don't come off and stuff.

Though not a common choice for most trans guys to make, because a phallo is ridiculously expensive, and, last I even bothered to check (which was admittedly some years ago), the general consensus was that the end result isn't worth it unless you're suicidally desperate for your body map and genitals to match.

I'll be damned. Live and learn. Thanks for the info.

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 6:29:09 AM

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There is also...hmmm...how to put this. Do you recall the FtM whose partner couldn't get pregnant and since he still had ovaries and a uterus, he became pregnant? He and his partner (off the top of my head I don't know if they are legally married or not) were on Oprah and one of the things they talked about was his transition. He talked about how taking testosterone altered his body. And, apparently, one of the changes is a sizable enlargement of the clitoris. Not a huge member by any means, but large enough to uh...provide pleasure for his female partner. :)

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 6:31:02 AM

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I frankly do not buy the OP's disclaimers here. I think I hear the sound of someone wanking furiously, and hiding behind, "just an innocent question!"

Facts of life:

-Some cisgender lesbians are open to dating MtFs. Some are not.
-Of those, some are open to dating pre-op MtFs. Some are not.
-Some pre-op trans women are okay with using their penises for penetration. Some are not interested in that whatsoever.
-If you possess a vagina, penetration probably feels good, barring any physical or emotional issues with that. It's just sort of an inherent characteristic of how most vaginas work. The idea that all women have a deep-seated desire for cock does not follow from this.
-So, no, lesbians still don't want to fuck you.

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 6:34:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: DianeB269

A tranny or TG is still a male dressed as a woman...I'm very bisexual and TG's or whatever you want to call them don't work for me...

Diane, I'm going to have to disagree with you. A CD or TV is indeed a man dressed as a woman (or less frequently, a woman dressed as a man). A TG is someone who has had or is about to have, hormone treatment or gender reassignment surgery.

I'm wondering if she might be thinking of an intersexed person. Or there are males who get the breast implants and such, but keep the penis. It could be those men she is thinking of and calling TG. That's my guess.

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 7:54:44 AM

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I'm wondering if she might be thinking of an intersexed person. Or there are males who get the breast implants and such, but keep the penis. It could be those men she is thinking of and calling TG. That's my guess.

Many trans women (MtF, but even that term is sometimes frowned upon these days) "keep the penis". I know several who have been on hormones for years, live their lives as women, pass flawlessly, and yet haven't had bottom surgery. It's a major surgery, frequently isn't covered by insurance (so you're looking at a $50,000+ hospital bill), the recovery is lengthy, and it never looks quite like factory-installed equipment.

On the other hand, the only non-op transwoman that I know intimately (*cough*) found that female hormones have severely limited functionality in her penis. They gave her some pretty fantastic breasts, though. So, OP, my guess is that most pre-op or non-op transwomen wouldn't be able to penetrate a woman with their penises if they tried.

Would a lesbian woman want it? Fuck, I don't know. It depends on the individual. At the end of the day, EVERYTHING comes down to what an individual likes and does not like. There is no general, one-size-fits-all answer.

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RE: For lesbian subs - 10/9/2011 12:26:49 PM

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HAHAHAHAA I love the phrase 'wanking furiously' Beantwice, and no, OBVIOUSLY Lesbians don't want to have sex with men, that's why they're called lesbians and not bisexuals -.-
But no, it was only a curiosity, but I understand why you'd it was wank fodder considering some of the crap you see on these forums
Thanks to all those who have answered, Heather that was very informative

And yeah strange I guess there isn't, but I'm going to assume that most lesbians won't be into it, despite only hearing really from one in this thread, it seems unlikely to me now

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