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Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 7:22:37 AM   
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Remember. #OccupyWallStreet is a non-violent post-political populist movement. If anyone's urging you to violence, you totally shouldn't beat the shit out of them... You'll probably get arrested for assaulting an officer.

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 7:35:09 AM   
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his article in the spectator,
and hes proud he got pepper sprayed, because the guards had "courage" to spray him. which not taking into account that this is a non violent protest, he surely is an agent provocateur.
what a twat


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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 1:16:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		WOW, and example of someone with 'no ethics'. He just became the poster boy for the sort of underhand stuff those that feel threaten by this 'occupy (insert city here)' will go to to discredit and undermine. Maybe this guy did it just to be pepper sprayed (you know, cus that's his kink?)?

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 2:28:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oddly enough, there will be those on the Right who will acclaim him a "hero".

Truth is, he should be in jail. After all, he confessed to several crimes in writing and, apparently, on his Facebook page.

Is he a lone wolf, or did he do this on orders of his superiors, the editors of the Right-wing magazine, The American Spectator?

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 5:24:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sending in "Agent Provocateurs" is SOP worldwide for police. I wish the article would mention this fact. 

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 5:29:04 PM   
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Sending in "Agent Provocateurs" is SOP worldwide for police. I wish the article would mention this fact. 



That makes it okay then, does it ?

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 5:47:37 PM   
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shit stirrer yes, AP yes, Cop...not so far.


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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 8:51:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thought it amusing that he was so surprised no one followed him. Guess the notion of a "peaceful protest, escaped him, as it does many it seems.

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 8:55:21 PM   
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an o keefe wanna be maybe??
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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/9/2011 8:58:18 PM   
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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 3:21:23 AM   
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That makes it okay then, does it ?

Obviously not: What Jupiter is allowed, the Ox is not.

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 5:59:15 AM   
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Oh yes, he almost bragged about his wanting to be another o'keefe reporter.


The story he wrote in the spectator has gone, I wonder why...
This was an update at the WP
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/conservative-journalist-says-he-infiltrated-escalated-dc-museum-protest/2011/10/09/gIQAIKxCYL_blog.html?hpid=z3
*Update: This post has been updated to clarify who was involved in the pepper-spray incident. The American Spectator also appears to have taken down the story, which is no longer available online. I have contacted both Howley and the Spectator’s editor-in-chief for comment. You can read the full text of Howley’s original story here.
with a lead to an archived copy
Sneaky bastards didnt just change it like the NYT did. Luckily people are getting wise and archiving..

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 6:14:10 AM   
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http://spectator.org/blog/2011/10/08/standoff-in-dc

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 6:17:53 AM   
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I guess someone should let the WP know:)

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 7:03:28 AM   
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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 1:03:20 PM   
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http://my.firedoglake.com/cgrapski/2011/10/09/american-standard-editor-admits-to-being-agent-provacateur-at-d-c-museum/

Remember. #OccupyWallStreet is a non-violent post-political populist movement. If anyone's urging you to violence, you totally shouldn't beat the shit out of them... You'll probably get arrested for assaulting an officer.


I was standing on Atlantic St. Friday and one kid in his mid 20s was there with a "Don't tread on me flag" who kept giving these elaborate explanations about how he hated the Tea Party for co-opting his favorite flag and how if any of them came today, they were gonna pay and how he hoped he wasn't alone. Folks were completely ignoring him and I thought that was rather odd. I asked a guy wearing a direct action arm band and he said "Oh, that guy got spotted the other day by a girl who was at the state house as an assistant and he used to hang there till security banned him once and for all because he was identifying himself as a 'fox news amateur correspondent' and had been harassing reps as they exited the statehouse.  Instead of kicking him out... we approached the BPD and made sure they knew that we knew"
   as for me, I noticed that on friday, when we returned from the smaller 5pm march, we were followed in by a group of middle aged guys that looked familiar to me. And they should to ANYONE who's been to a Bruins Game, The Celtics, or The Orpheum... They were the merry bunch that offer to buy your tickets for a profit and then arrest you. What were they there for? Well I'll presume because they basically avoided interaction and weren't at all threatening they serve some function other than infiltration. But that first guy is either an opportunistic loan freak with a head full of Tea Party, or maybe even someone they sent.



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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 1:06:05 PM   
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Sending in "Agent Provocateurs" is SOP worldwide for police. I wish the article would mention this fact.


The practice is ILLEGAL... PERIOD.
So what's your POINT?????




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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 1:07:53 PM   
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That makes it okay then, does it ?


He IDENTIFIES with the role




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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 4:39:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice spin in the OP. Read the original article. Pretty standard for someone who wants to cover a story from the inside, and he did nothing to provoke anyone or to bring discredit to the ralliers.

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RE: Violent Right-Wing Infiltrators Caused NASM Clash... - 10/10/2011 5:07:55 PM   
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Sending in "Agent Provocateurs" is SOP worldwide for police. I wish the article would mention this fact. 



So your point seems to be that the cops are special and are above the law.

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