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SpanishMatMaster -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 10:44:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lazarus1983
How about you answer it?

If another person answers me with a question, why should I answer his questions? :)
If you answer it, I will too - in PM, I do not want to bias the thread.



lazarus1983 -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 10:50:01 PM)

Hmmmm, ok.

My answer is nobody reminds me of RAH on here.



Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/12/2011 4:59:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lazarus1983

Funny story, in 'Grumbles From The Grave', Virginia Heinlein talks about the various letters they received, including one lady who was especially interested in the concepts and ideas behind water sharing and nest families. They found out later this woman was a member of the Manson family.

Charlie was a big fan of that book as well.
I was always surprised no publisher has ever tried to get a quote from the book jacket from him, really.



GreedyTop -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/12/2011 5:02:30 AM)

~FR~

another author whose books I love (who seeds his books with his beliefs) is Orson Scott Card...



Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/12/2011 6:17:49 AM)

Card's a bit more of a borderline case though: he keeps the gaybashing out of his fiction and saves that for interviews with the Mormon press, doesn't he?



DomKen -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/12/2011 10:09:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Card's a bit more of a borderline case though: he keeps the gaybashing out of his fiction and saves that for interviews with the Mormon press, doesn't he?

Yeah kind of spoils all his stuff now that I know he is a homophobe.



Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 5:05:11 AM)

That's why he saves that for when he's talking to the Mormon media, rather than shooting his mouth off in Locus, which shows a certain lack of backbone, if nothing else. At least Heinlein had the confidence to spout his libertarian agenda in pretty much every interview he did over the course of his career, rather than just saving it for hacks he knew had read too much Ayn Rand themselves.
(It's also astonishing that somebody like Card who appears to be fairly bright seriously thought his gay bashing wouldn't go any further than the Mormons in this day and age, as well.)



GreedyTop -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 5:09:04 AM)

I must have missed the gay bashing... when where?




Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 5:48:36 AM)

It's actually a bit more overt than I was thinking, sadly: I'd forgotten the fuss about his Hamlet rewrite...
(Not the Mail or the Torygraph, sadly, but a reputable paper despite it's liberal bias. [;)])
That's the most recent article I could find. Here's a couple of hatchet jobs with quotations on his original comments:
Why gaying should be illegal (from a slightly partisan source).
Why gay marriage is an evil idea.

Here's an essay he's actually put on the internet himself, dating back to 1990 (when you could still safely assume if you said such things to the Mormon Times they wouldn't spread outside of that audience):
Orson calling Earth...

There's plenty more on google, but that's a few of the basics.



GreedyTop -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 6:15:02 AM)

*sigh*

Thanks, Moon.




Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 6:51:50 AM)

Sorry.



firststar -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 6:57:19 AM)

Glory Road is my favorite, after Stranger In a Strange Land.



imperatrixx -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 6:58:43 AM)

I read Stranger in a Strange Land...the beginning was amazing but when it turned into a commune of orgies for millionaires with alien superpowers I got bored and just sort of skimmed through it until the very end which was also awesome.



GreedyTop -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 7:07:04 AM)

I liked Farnhams Freehold, too :)



devoutworshipper -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 7:09:50 AM)

I love Heinlein. He wrote a series of Juvnile novels in the 50s. I think these are his best work. They stopped when the publishing company had issues with Starship Troopers and whether it was juvenile enough.



Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 7:12:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I liked Farnhams Freehold, too :)

It's a bit racist though, innit?



GreedyTop -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 7:36:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

I liked Farnhams Freehold, too :)

It's a bit racist though, innit?

Hmm.. I'll have to re-read it.. I didnt get that when I read it about 15 yrs ago... maybe longer.. jeez.. it might have beeen in highschool!



Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 8:01:09 AM)

I've not read it for a long time myself, but it only takes the blacks about ten years to revert to savagery while Pa Farnham and his brood are still living like the Waltons...



GreedyTop -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 8:10:13 AM)

*wonders if I still have a copy*




Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/13/2011 8:13:11 AM)

I might be misremembering, or confusing it with something else.



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