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SpanishMatMaster -> Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 12:28:05 AM)

Does somebody here know Robert E. Heinlein?

A bit more twicked question... is there somebody in these forums who reminds you Robert E. Heinlein?

:)



Rule -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 4:47:28 AM)

Who is that? What does the E. stand for? Why did you ask that question?



GreedyTop -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 4:49:42 AM)

Heinlein is one of my favorite authors.

oh, and it's Robert Anson Heinlein.



MadAxeman -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 5:09:10 AM)

I read the juvenile books when I was 11 or 12 and they gave me a lifelong delight in fantasy.
My favorite was Stranger In A Strange Land, which can provide a decent credo for life.
Anti racist and extolling sexual freedom.
'The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress' was a bit chewier and made me think on politics.
I was an adult by the time he released the final bunch of books.
Maybe I had changed more than he, but they were less engaging.
If he had set his books in contemporary times and avoided the SF, he would have had a higher reputation among the literati, but the genre he chose allowed him to air ideas.
A fine writer, and he mentioned waterbeds decades before we got them.



DomKen -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 5:27:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MadAxeman
Maybe I had changed more than he, but they were less engaging.

I think the word you're looking for is preachy. Amongst fans it is pretty widely accepted that Number of the Beast and everything after were his attempts to hit his fans with sledge hammers till they started thinking the way he wanted. I much prefer his earlier work.




SpanishMatMaster -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 5:38:01 AM)

Thank you, DomKen, MadAxeman.

Have you found any person in the forums who reminds him for you?

I actually was disappointed by "Time Enough For Love", even if I enjoyed many moments. But it is a huge book, and I had sometimes the impression that it was going nowhere. And that he simply did not dare to kill Lazarus Long because, well, he was Lazarus Long.

For me, he represents a very special kind of ideology, which I one day decided to call "anarchist cow-boy". I have the impression that in the USA many of them consider themselves republicans. I am interested on politics (but this was not a mainly political question, thus it is here).

"Stranger In A Strange Land" is also for me an important book.



samboct -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 5:41:56 AM)

Stranger in a Strange Land is one of the best allegory's I've ever read, so like a lot of folks, I think it's his best work, but I like Moon is a Harsh Mistress as well. His later stuff isn't as deep, although I Will Fear No Evil is an interesting take on the differences between men and women- something that always fascinated the guy. I pretty much gave up on his stuff after Time Enough for Love.


Sam



MadAxeman -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 5:50:25 AM)

The pedantry was an element.
He was also propounding ideas I had heard many times by then.
A reduced felicity in sentence structure and imagery.

Hatchap, I don't see anyone writing much like Heinlein on CM.
I can guess who you mean though, going by a previous thread.



Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 6:09:20 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: MadAxeman
Maybe I had changed more than he, but they were less engaging.

I think the word you're looking for is preachy. Amongst fans it is pretty widely accepted that Number of the Beast and everything after were his attempts to hit his fans with sledge hammers till they started thinking the way he wanted. I much prefer his earlier work.



He was doing that long before Number of the Beast, though: there's plenty of preachiness at least as far back as Starship Troopers.
(For myself, I much prefer Heinlein as a short story writer than as a novelist: having to tell and resolve a tale in a limited page count controlled his taste for didactic pontificating...)



Rule -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 8:23:38 AM)

FR

Oh, Robert ANSON Heinlein. And here I was wondering who the E. was...

I would like to have met mr. Heinlein. I do have some posthumous questions for him...



Moonhead -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 8:29:02 AM)

He's probably got Heinlein's name confused with Robert E Howard.



kdsub -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 10:25:57 AM)

Mine was Starship Troopers...go figure...lol

Butch



MadAxeman -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 10:36:36 AM)

Drek movie



popeye1250 -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 10:42:28 AM)

I had a neighbor named Robert Heinlein, I wonder if that was him.
Real cheap prick, always mooching beers off the neighbors, might as well have had a sign up for him; "Free Beer!"
He had fish hooks in his pockets.



JstAnotherSub -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 2:37:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I had a neighbor named Robert Heinlein, I wonder if that was him.
Real cheap prick, always mooching beers off the neighbors, might as well have had a sign up for him; "Free Beer!"
He had fish hooks in his pockets.

I wonder if a hook ever caught his worm?????



MasterJohnSteed -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 6:56:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: MadAxeman
Maybe I had changed more than he, but they were less engaging.

I think the word you're looking for is preachy. Amongst fans it is pretty widely accepted that Number of the Beast and everything after were his attempts to hit his fans with sledge hammers till they started thinking the way he wanted. I much prefer his earlier work.



YEAH CLAP CLAP CLAP!!!



MissImmortalPain -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 7:13:18 PM)

"anarchist cow-boy" made me think of Plein, but Stranger In A Strange Land is a wonderful book. No there is no one on these boards like Robert.



lazarus1983 -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 8:00:49 PM)

Funny story, in 'Grumbles From The Grave', Virginia Heinlein talks about the various letters they received, including one lady who was especially interested in the concepts and ideas behind water sharing and nest families. They found out later this woman was a member of the Manson family.



SpanishMatMaster -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 10:15:55 PM)

Than you everybody.
Wonderful signature (and appropriate alias for this thread), lazarus.
Pity that some people do not have the mental capacity to recognize a typo... fortunately most of you have.
Does somebody else want to answer the second question of the OP?



lazarus1983 -> RE: Robert E. Heinlein anybody? (10/11/2011 10:40:19 PM)

How about you answer it?



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