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stef -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 9:47:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet

You've been oggling my profile ever since we had a disagreement on another post. Get over it.

He won't.  He does that to everyone who smacks him down.




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 10:05:21 AM)

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I've called it exactly what it is.
yea right, and my "friends" made contributions to my fucking college fund. yea, yea, that's it, that's the ticket, my college fund.

tribute! sweet mother of christ's well fucked ass. tribute! [8|] and i suppose what you did was "physical therapy" too eh.


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And could you possibly fit any more explitives into your posts? Sheeesh!
oh fuck yes, no fucking effort at all. and the rest of your post, well fuck it. i'm not going there, i don't need a fucking gold letter, but stop putting on airs.




lobodomslavery -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 10:05:26 AM)

no i havent . im just calling it as i see it. You got more money than you deserve from this guy and still you moan. Do you not think as the paying customer he has the right to do what he wants to do NOT what you want to do, it s his time, not yours, stop moaning and GET OVER IT
kevin




MissImmortalPain -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 10:37:40 AM)

To the OP,

Yes your clients have a right to say what they want(they are paying for it) Yes you do have a right to say you won't want to work for someone. That little note you made it seeming like he could have handed you a script..pfft..I have at least one that actually does exactly that. I read it and if I don't take issue with anything in it I learn the lines and run them off for him. I don't care in the least if he enjoys it as much as he could because he hasn't "let go" that is his issue not mine. I think perhaps you are more worried about if you are enjoying it or not. Don't take that the wrong way I deeply enjoy what I do (WHAP) but I can't enjoy every moment of it anymore than every single moment of life can be enjoyed. We all meet people everyday that we don't really care for. Most people that work know that when someone pays for a service you provide that service and hope you did your part well. The rest is on them.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 10:45:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet

I used to pro domme on a pretty regular basis before my health went bad. Every so often I get an email from a former client asking if I'm going to take it up again. One in particular was always a pain in the ass to me. He continually topped from the bottom and he may as well have handed me a script when he walked through the door. Now, I always took into account what my clients liked and tried my best to work those kinks into the session. HOWEVER, I always tried to maintain at least the illusion that I was the one in control. That's the trick to being a good pro domme after all, right? When this particular sub contacted me again I told him outright that I would never see him again because he was too controlling. His answer was that because he was paying for it, he should get what he wanted. I feel like he ruined his own sessions by always wanting to be in control and never allowing me to take the reins. What do you think?
Mistress Scarlet


I guess you're both right, you just don't mesh well, he should simply go and find somebody who enjoys his kind of play or at least pretends to enjoy it, problem solved.




MissAsylum -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:04:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet

I used to pro domme on a pretty regular basis before my health went bad. Every so often I get an email from a former client asking if I'm going to take it up again. One in particular was always a pain in the ass to me. He continually topped from the bottom and he may as well have handed me a script when he walked through the door. Now, I always took into account what my clients liked and tried my best to work those kinks into the session. HOWEVER, I always tried to maintain at least the illusion that I was the one in control. That's the trick to being a good pro domme after all, right? When this particular sub contacted me again I told him outright that I would never see him again because he was too controlling. His answer was that because he was paying for it, he should get what he wanted. I feel like he ruined his own sessions by always wanting to be in control and never allowing me to take the reins. What do you think?
Mistress Scarlet


I will have to side with your former client here. If you don't want to do the script thing, then don't see him.

Simple as that.




LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:24:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

You got your money and probably far too much. Quit moaning. its the sucker i feel sorry for
kevin



Look kevin, we all know that you couldn't afford a sesssion with a pro domme even if you'd sell all your worldly possessions, even if you'd have the disposable income of Bill Gates, you'd be hard pressed to find a woman desperate enough to spend time with you - though I might be wrong here, maybe there is a super hardcore female masochist out there.

Isn't it time for another rant how women shouldn't be allowed to work as they have periods or some other such typical kevin nonsense.




stef -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:31:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

Look kevin, we all know that you couldn't afford a sesssion with a pro domme even if you'd sell all your worldly possessions, even if you'd have the disposable income of Bill Gates, you'd be hard pressed to find a woman desperate enough to spend time with you - though I might be wrong here, maybe there is a super hardcore female masochist out there.

The currency required for someone to accept him as a client has not yet been minted.




rulemylife -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:34:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

what's that old saw? the customer is always right?

look cuddles, don't fucking kid yourself, a pro domme is just hired help. you're an actress hired to play out the john's fantasies, you're paid to give the fucker whatever the fuck it is he wants, that how this shit works, that's your fucking job. so just shut the fuck up, smile, and do what you're told.


[sm=rofl.gif][sm=applause.gif]

I couldn't have put it better.




lobodomslavery -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:39:58 AM)

Can you ever stop bringing up ancient threads. We all have moved on. Would it be possible for you to do so
kevin




GreedyTop -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:43:03 AM)

well, it MIGHT be considered old news if you didnt keep carping on all the time about the same old shit.

learn a new sng and dance, then MAYBE folks will let your proven record dwindle away.


maybe.




stef -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:43:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

Can you ever stop bringing up ancient threads. We all have moved on.

How have you moved on?




MissAsylum -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:43:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

You got your money and probably far too much. Quit moaning. its the sucker i feel sorry for
kevin


I'm sorry....you were saying something about moving on?

No...that can't be right.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:44:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet

Looks like this thread took a totally different turn after I left. Here are some points that you need to understand:

I said right up front that I got to know what my clients liked and always worked hard to incorporate that into the session. I felt they had a better time if they gave into the ILLUSION that I was in charge, and they did.



Your opinion about when they had a better time is irrelevant. Their opinion is the only one that matters.

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This was not rent money. This was a sideline that I did for fun. I enjoyed the variety, not to mention getting paid to do what I enjoyed. It was work, but work I loved.


You seem to be trying to distinguish yourself from others in the business. So you were a part time sex worker. You were still a sex worker. You took money from men and "assisted" them in getting their sexual thrills. Try and play it off as anything else you want, but the only one you are deluding on that is you.

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I have already stated that I always gave my clients a second chance (and sometimes more) if they had a bad habit of topping from the bottom. I knew they would enjoy it more if they would just go with the flow, but sometimes it took some convincing.


Really? Is your "full time" job that of a licensed therapist? Unless it is, you know nothing. You have an opinion, which may be based on your experience, but you actually "know" nothing.

As for the "topping from the bottom," again, in a pro domme situation, that is ALL that is happening. These men pay you to provide a service, that service being "domination."

You act like you did them a favor talking to them and getting to know what they liked. Guess what? You didn't do that, chances are, you are out of business. Why? Because once again, this service is all about what your clients want! Great, you did it for fun, but no one cares if you have fun when you are a pro. You aren't having a good time? Damn well better pretend you are, or you are losing a client.


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Lastly, I did not mention one important thing. He was always pushing for things that were sexual in nature. That was a hard limit for me and I told him so many times. He would always deny it of course, but if I followed his "script", that's where it always lead.


Of course, you have gotten slammed, so now he asked for things "sexual" in nature. Like the whole session was not about him getting his dick hard?

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If I knew another pro domme that I trusted, I would gladly have referred him to her. I don't happen to know of any who don't "milk" their clients, asking for money even when they're not in a session. Sending people to a bad pro domme would only have made my reputation worse, not better.


So you know a bunch of scummy sex workers and you are the "cream of the crop," right? Do you have any idea how that makes you sound? Professionals in ANY business who have nothing good to say about any of their competitors don't have quite the great reputation you think they do.

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And lastly, there are different categories of pro dommes. Some are in it for the money and that's it. They will take on any client no matter what. Some of us are not in it JUST for the money. We enjoy what we do and when we come across one client in 50 that just pulls us down every time we see them, it's time to let them go. The clients that I did let go invariably called me back later complaining about their experiences with another pro domme (or two) and asking to come back.


Newflash. Even the ones who are in it for the money are doing it because they get something out of it more than just money.

For those, like you, who claim to do it because you "enjoy it," has it occurred to you that you are milking your clients in a different way? Rather than have a relationship with someone because you enjoy the dynamic, you seek to make money from people. Problem is then you seem to think that you have more say in what goes on in sessions than you actually do. The second you take payment, doesn't matter if you are in the biz because you "love it," or some other reason, it's ALL about the client. As long as the activities are on your "play list," you do what you are told, and the best way to do that is for YOU to get over the illusion that you are in control. You are playing a part, and from what I see on this post, you confused the role and the reality.

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I am VERY aware that as a pro domme you take the sub role, but if you act like it they may as well go to one of their sub friends and hand them a script. Very unfulfilling.

Mistress Scarlet


Unfulfilling for who? You or them? Part of the game for your client is for them to slobber all over you with thanks and gratitude, but again, when they walk out that door, you are a mere memory. They go back to their lives, their wives. They got their fulfillment in the session and life goes on.






LafayetteLady -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:49:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet

Forgot one last thing. My clients never left their tribute until AFTER the session was over. If they weren't happy with how things went, I was known to give a discount or even a freebie. It didn't happen very often, but it did. My client's satisfaction was always a priority.

Like any other sex workers, there are different classes. There are some who stand on the corner and take any john who comes along. There are also some who only take on clients that have been referred to them - high end if you will. They can demand more and afford to turn down the johns they feel just aren't going to work out. If you don't let greed get a hold of you, you can be the second kind.

Mistress Scarlet


Well, having them not pay you until the end certainly would cut down on demands for refunds, wouldn't it?

Look, you have tried to paint yourself as some type of wonderment among the profession. You aren't.

Really? You think some independent hooker on the street takes any john who comes her way? Bet there are some here that can set you straight on that one.

And saying you are a "high class" sex worker doesn't make you less of a sex worker, no matter how hard you want it to be so.

Think back to high school. Was the cheerleader who slept with every guy on the football team less of a whore than the cheerleader who did them all in one night?

I don't mean that as an insult to any sex worker here. That's what you choose to do, have at it. But don't try to play up like you are better than other sex workers because you are picky, or love what you do. It makes you look stupid.




rulemylife -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:53:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I think we are on the same page! I was in the business of fantasy fulfillment, yes, but if it didn't"work", it didn't work.

There's plenty of other pro doms who are just there for the benjamins.


And you did it just as charity to help out poor, underprivileged submissives?




kalikshama -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:55:26 AM)

If y'all want to stop arguing with Kevin, stop arguing with Kevin and there's no derailment.

(Please note that y'all is plural and this is not intended for GT alone.)










LafayetteLady -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:56:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MstrssScarlet


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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My clients never left their tribute
you mean paid your fee, come on now, lets call the bear shit, bear shit shall we?


I've called it exactly what it is. My tributes were not always money, but sometimes work that I needed done around the house. Something to make my life a little easier. WOW What a concept!

I get the feeling that you're the one standing on the corner taking every john that comes along and you're jealous that I didn't have to do this FOR RENT MONEY. You stated earlier that you were a pro sub. Don't come in here taking it out on me just because it didn't go well for YOU.

And could you possibly fit any more explitives into your posts? Sheeesh!

Mistress Scarlet


Believe me, I'm among the last to come to Hannah's defense on much of anything.

However,

Lady, you and her may have taken different "positions" in the sex trade, but the reality is a hooker is a hooker is a hooker.

Hannah doe not try to justify her previous work by trying to make it sound like she was something unusual in her field.

The definition of prostitution, since you obviously don't know is to trade money, goods or services for sexual acts.

YES deary, pro dommes are providing sexual acts. Your johns get off on the game.

I don't care whether they gave you cash, did your laundry, washed your dishes, or installed a bidet so you could wash your ass, you got PAID.

A "tribute" is just another illusion to make the domme feel like she is more special than the every day call girl. You aren't, and really, the hoity toity attitude acting like you are? Really doesn't make you look better.




GreedyTop -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 11:58:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

If y'all want to stop arguing with Kevin, stop arguing with Kevin and there's no derailment.



you're right.. I apologize.. LOL

But he's such a trainwreck!!! in a charlie chaplin meets charlie manson kind of way...




kalikshama -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/12/2011 12:02:46 PM)

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This was not rent money. This was a sideline that I did for fun. I enjoyed the variety, not to mention getting paid to do what I enjoyed. It was work, but work I loved.

I am VERY aware that as a pro domme you take the sub role, but if you act like it they may as well go to one of their sub friends and hand them a script. Very unfulfilling.


No one is disagreeing that you can pick and chose clients. There's a divide on how much your satisfaction should come before your client's.

If you want to always love your work, by all means, only go with the clients you have fun with. But expect that this narrows the pool considerably.





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