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I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 3:50:44 AM   
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Mike-Daisey-goes-after-Apple-apf-2036183637.html?x=0&.v=1

Sometimes I wonder if there's a politician or official in this country who has a friggin clue.


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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 6:01:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, thanks for posting. I had no idea. I, too, assumed iProducts were manufactured in a high tech manner:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Mike-Daisey-goes-after-Apple-apf-2036183637.html?x=0&.v=1

Daisey, a monologuist in the vein of Spalding Gray and a recovering "Apple fanboy," hasn't upgraded his phone since flying to China to investigate how those smooth, beautifully designed hand-held gizmos are made.

What he found was horrific labor conditions, impossibly long hours and the use of crippling, repetitive motions. He met very young factory workers whose joints in their hands were damaged because they performed the same action thousands of times a shift.

...Daisey's eyes were opened when, posing as a businessman, he traveled to the Chinese industrial zone of Shenzhen and interviewed hundreds of workers outside the gates of the secretive Foxconn Technology Group, the world's largest electronics contract manufacturer. A string of suicides at the heavily regimented factories also have drawn attention to conditions faced by workers inside.

..."Apple is committed to driving the highest standards of social responsibility throughout our supply chain," Dowling said. "We require that our suppliers provide safe working conditions, treat workers with dignity and respect and use environmentally responsible manufacturing processes wherever Apple products are made."

Daisey isn't holding his breath. Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak saw the monologue and apparently cried, but Daisey says Apple hasn't changed its practices. And Daisey says that Tim Cook, Jobs' hand-picked successor, is part of the problem. "Tim Cook is personally responsible for the deals with Foxconn and the way things are set up today," he says.

...To those who argue that improving conditions for workers will only jack up the costs of our phones and tablets, Daisey shakes his head. "The labor cost of an iPhone is about $8," he says. "Eight dollars! We do this thing to ourselves where we make excuses for why we don't do anything, why we don't hold anyone accountable."

...Daisey says he'd be perfectly satisfied if everyone who buys a high-tech gadget knows how it was made.

"My job is to shine a light on and through something," he says. "My job isn't actually to stop people from buying devices. My job is to ensure that these circumstances are part of the conversation."

He hopes one day all factories that make devices will be open to inspectors and that the world of technology will follow the lead of the organic food movement and demand changes in the way goods are manufactured. After all, a cage-free egg is more expensive to create than a cage-free iPhone.

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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 6:09:15 AM   
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Fuck every g-ddamn company which chooses to fuck over Americans like you and me. 8 bucks of labor and 8 of parts and 2 for shipping and handling. The things NEW cost 20 bucks to get into your hands. And tied to a wireless contract, you're paying hundreds for it.



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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 6:14:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		but shareholder s deserve a kajillion return on their investment, but fuck the workers, theres always a billion putzs working for 4$ a DAY
800 bucks until americans will work for those prices, no matter how much of a tax holiday you give corps even companies to come back the prices wont go down.Making profit is what they do, yay


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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 7:23:20 AM   
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This is what happened after the Chinese bestowed upon their loving "One Twue Way" socialist "Dear Leaders" unlimited power

Let it serve as a warning

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but shareholder s deserve a kajillion return on their investment, but fuck the workers, theres always a billion putzs working for 4$ a DAY
800 bucks until americans will work for those prices, no matter how much of a tax holiday you give corps even companies to come back the prices wont go down.Making profit is what they do, yay



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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 7:29:42 AM   
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This is what happened after the Chinese bestowed upon their loving "One Twue Way" socialist "Dear Leaders" unlimited power

Let it serve as a warning

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but shareholder s deserve a kajillion return on their investment, but fuck the workers, theres always a billion putzs working for 4$ a DAY
800 bucks until americans will work for those prices, no matter how much of a tax holiday you give corps even companies to come back the prices wont go down.Making profit is what they do, yay


A mirror, look in it.

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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 7:37:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		hahahahhahahathanks for posting that xxve, LMAO Iphones have only been in vogue since obama??
so its all his fault? where is the money??? not in the chinese pockets.
How much in debt was Jobs when he died??


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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 7:43:57 AM   
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I was referring to Chinese dissident /  slave labor and child labor camps

Unlimited government power is inherently dangerous, as the Chinese and Soviets and Cubans and Vietnamese etc have found out

There have been rumblings here calling for giving leftists as much power as possible, whether voters want that or not. As I wrote, let it be a lesson.

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hahahahhahahathanks for posting that xxve, LMAO Iphones have only been in vogue since obama??
so its all his fault? where is the money??? not in the chinese pockets.
How much in debt was Jobs when he died??



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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 7:48:37 AM   
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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 7:51:41 AM   
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As much as we bitch about the Chinese in this country, we are sure willing to buy their products, not to mention borrow their money. If you don't like it, don't buy products manufactured there. The fact is, the American "job creators" were the ones who drove (Walmart) or took (virtually all manufacturing companies) manufacturing overseas. So tell me again why they should get tax breaks?

YES:)

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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 7:54:39 AM   
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Leftists here are making it nearly impossible to do business here, so there are many angles to the problem

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As much as we bitch about the Chinese in this country, we are sure willing to buy their products, not to mention borrow their money. If you don't like it, don't buy products manufactured there. The fact is, the American "job creators" were the ones who drove (Walmart) or took (virtually all manufacturing companies) manufacturing overseas. So tell me again why they should get tax breaks?


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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 7:58:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gee Sanity, I am so very surprised to hear you say that. It of course doesn't have anything to do with the "job creators" wanting to maximize their profits at all costs.
What's really funny is that not 3 posts earlier you were bitching about the Chinese. So don't you think exporting jobs therre is unpatriotic?

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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 8:01:44 AM   
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As much as we bitch about the Chinese in this country, we are sure willing to buy their products, not to mention borrow their money. If you don't like it, don't buy products manufactured there. The fact is, the American "job creators" were the ones who drove (Walmart) or took (virtually all manufacturing companies) manufacturing overseas. So tell me again why they should get tax breaks?

YES:)

But its ok to vote in a law that could poison thousands of americans, because well its just not worth the cost to be safe
WASHINGTON -- Less than an hour after passing the so-called Protect Life Act to guard the unborn, the House of Representatives passed a bill that the EPA warns will kill thousands of people prematurely.

House Republicans argued that the EPA Regulatory Relief Act of 2011 was a "timeout" from long-delayed regulations aimed at mercury that threatened to raise costs on boiler operators and incinerators. But the measure also exempts smaller burning facilities from any regulation at all.

The EPA estimated that the bill, H.R. 2550, would allow 20,000 people to die prematurely from pollution.

But for the GOP, preserving the jobs was more important.

“The House Republican jobs agenda is focused on removing the uncertainty hampering small businesses through policies that promote private sector growth," said House GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.). "Small businesses and entrepreneurial start-ups are the engine of job creation in America, and Washington should not be working to make it more costly and more difficult for them to do business."

He added that the proposed boiler regulations "could raise compliance costs, take away billions of dollars in capital annually and put hundreds of thousands of jobs at risk."

The National Republican Congressional Committee immediately began campaigning on the vote, attacking Democrats who opposed the bill, saying they voted to "endanger over 300,000 American jobs." The committee's press release cited a report prepared for the Council of Industrial Boiler Owners.


It's just the latest in an ongoing assault on the EPA that as of last week had prompted 159 anti-environmental regulation votes on the House floor this year. The House passed a measure last week to relax proposed regulations on cement kilns, which the EPA says will lead to 12,500 premature deaths.

Environmental groups and Democrats were livid over the 272 to 142 vote, which they said will allow smaller incinerators -- often in urban settings -- to burn tires, solvents, plastics, oil sludge and other toxic-laden substances for profit without any oversight or reporting requirements.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/13/house-passes-incinerator-bill-epa_n_1010044.html

but as long as they take away the health insurance away from the workers who deal with the kilns, it will all just be fine.
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
fuck the air, fuck their lungs, fuck acid rain and pollution, I want to be able to burn what I want when I want it
and kill my emplyees.
What a wonderful world

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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 9:25:06 AM   
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Leftists here are making it nearly impossible to do business here, so there are many angles to the problem

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As much as we bitch about the Chinese in this country, we are sure willing to buy their products, not to mention borrow their money. If you don't like it, don't buy products manufactured there. The fact is, the American "job creators" were the ones who drove (Walmart) or took (virtually all manufacturing companies) manufacturing overseas. So tell me again why they should get tax breaks?




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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 9:28:30 AM   
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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 9:28:34 AM   
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Since you're already paying a gazillion point markup, why not just pay AMERICANS to MAKE THEM IN AMERICA and instead of Apple keeping the difference, they could pay AMERICANS, who then could make their mortgage payments and buy other things MADE IN AMERICA BY OTHER AMERICANS.

Fuck every g-ddamn company which chooses to fuck over Americans like you and me. 8 bucks of labor and 8 of parts and 2 for shipping and handling. The things NEW cost 20 bucks to get into your hands. And tied to a wireless contract, you're paying hundreds for it.




Id rather go out and spend the money I saved on my iPad on something else and actually stimulate the economy.

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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 10:00:18 AM   
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No, in other words you cant make a real argument so you have to resort to these strawman fallacies

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In other words, Right-Wing Businessmen are too fucking dumb to make a profit without sending your job to China...


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Leftists here are making it nearly impossible to do business here, so there are many angles to the problem

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As much as we bitch about the Chinese in this country, we are sure willing to buy their products, not to mention borrow their money. If you don't like it, don't buy products manufactured there. The fact is, the American "job creators" were the ones who drove (Walmart) or took (virtually all manufacturing companies) manufacturing overseas. So tell me again why they should get tax breaks?





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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 10:01:20 AM   
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Competition is good, and theres no reason the United States cant be competitive

Well, actually theres one reason, the left wont allow it

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Since you're already paying a gazillion point markup, why not just pay AMERICANS to MAKE THEM IN AMERICA and instead of Apple keeping the difference, they could pay AMERICANS, who then could make their mortgage payments and buy other things MADE IN AMERICA BY OTHER AMERICANS.

Fuck every g-ddamn company which chooses to fuck over Americans like you and me. 8 bucks of labor and 8 of parts and 2 for shipping and handling. The things NEW cost 20 bucks to get into your hands. And tied to a wireless contract, you're paying hundreds for it.




Id rather go out and spend the money I saved on my iPad on something else and actually stimulate the economy.


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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 10:15:14 AM   
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Mike-Daisey-goes-after-Apple-apf-2036183637.html?x=0&.v=1

Is this guys show a comedy?,.. cuz for him to say he thought all along it was robots in China building all those devices is the funniest thing i have heard in a long time.. Are people really that stupid? Are sweatshops something new? Oh well, guess he's created his own job out of it..

must be a slow news week..

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RE: I can't eat an IPAD - 10/14/2011 10:27:04 AM   
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