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RE: Does it drive you a bit nutty also? - 5/24/2006 9:23:10 PM   
talibahh


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ORIGINAL: FloridaISIS

well said, tali



Thank You FloridaISIS... it's appreciated
 
humbly,
tali





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RE: Does it drive you a bit nutty also? - 5/25/2006 5:04:07 AM   
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Change me? No. They both listen to my ideas and talk to me about anything and everything. Yet even with all the time i have spent in a collar there are things that make me feel like i am being treated like a child. So what do i do, sometimes i like it and it makes me grin, then others i do exactly the wrong thing and respond like a child. I've been known to pout, or cry even occasionally have a temper fit when i just go off by myself.

Not the best response really, lol, lucky for me my pair knows how to handle this. They know i'll kick myself harder about my reaction later on than they ever could. In reality there is a great deal in about most subs/slaves that is very childlike.

It can make you crazy but it is their right after all, it is a part of what we ask for when we accept a collar.

I wish i could say i've figured out how to stop this but in truth it is such a knee jerk reaction, i think it is our vulnerability to anything they do or say that causes this. After all if anybody else even tried i'd not have an issue telling them to go fuck themselves, cheerfully with a big smile on my face.


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RE: Does it drive you a bit nutty also? - 5/25/2006 10:27:01 AM   
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  sleazybutterfly was/is refering to those who contact her and are talking with her in the initial stages... definately (IMHO anyway), not appropriate behaviour... in my (all be it limited experience thus far), the REAL Doms/Masters don't do this. On the contrary. It's the wanna-bes who feel a need to prove themselves and try to exert some kind of control in the initial stages.


Thanks..correct...(as usual)lol.  If He were my Master.. i have no problem with things being pushed some..or ideas being brought it..it's those that don't even hardly know me..and i am trying to get to know..that drive me a bit crazy.  If i say something that is a limit for me..it shouldn't be something that is hounded away at time after time..after time.. until i am ready to scream, period. ugh!  ; ) 

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RE: Does it drive you a bit nutty also? - 5/25/2006 2:14:34 PM   
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Dear sleazybutterfly, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
It drives me to a state of annoyance, when slave/submissive prospects attempt to change me also.  So, I do understand the frustration indeed.
The fact is --they are a miss-match. 
 
When you have a 80/20 ratio that is positive and close to what you're looking for, then you're blessed.  I would be happy with an 80% of what I'm looking for in a slave, as there is no such thing as a perfect slave.
 
When somebody changes you, they change who you are.
 
As for me, I like to place before slaves, things for them to consider.  It is also wonderful to give a bit of why it is important to me to practice certain manners or serving etiquette. 
 
Personally, I would want to know why a slave/submissive has such a firm "no" about things or have a closed mind.  From my experiences with slaves/submissives who have had caning horror stories, I can understand and show an option to such and allow their minds to be changed on their terms--not mine.   Sometimes, it is really of great interest to me, to which may enlighten me.  I learn just as much from slaves as well as dominants. 
 
I think anything that provokes a strong "no" from a slave, should be approached and respectfully.  This is where communication really is necessary.  Might be, that both of the individuals involved have an opportunity to explore the issue and exhausts all remedies.  Then when all is exhausted, the issue can finally be at peace and closure done.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Does it drive you a bit nutty also? - 5/25/2006 5:17:08 PM   
SweetEscravo


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It is one thing to grow and change into the person you want to be.  It is another to be forced.  I think one "no" should be it, and that more people should respect that.  A submissive can only be molded so much...we are still people with likes and dislikes and hard limits.  No amount of "domination" is going to change my hard limits.

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RE: Does it drive you a bit nutty also? - 5/25/2006 9:18:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sleazybutterfly

..that try to change everything about you?

i know we are here to be guided and taught.. i love that part..but.. i do have thoughts



If someone is trying to change everything about you - they are trying to mold you into an unrealistic fantasy and not seeing YOU. 

Yes, none of us are perfect, and we should always strive to learn and grow. I have a brain and opinions too.

Submission is GREAT - with-the-right-person.  Don't be in a hurry to find HIM and sell yourself short.  Someone will adore you and guide you within that adoration.





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RE: Does it drive you a bit nutty also? - 5/27/2006 3:54:14 AM   
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No means no in any language, so stick to you limits there is a Master or Mistress out there for you.  It my take you a while to find that one but u will so stick to your guns. 

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