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StrangerThan -> Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 6:16:31 AM)
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-pulls-plug-part-health-overhaul-law-190228758.html

DomKen -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 7:02:28 AM)
The CLASS act was always one of the parts that was most unlikely to be implemented. The law actually requires certification that the plan would have been solvent for 75 years prior to implementation. The problem is getting healthy young people to pay a seperate monthly premium to cover the eventual need for long term skilled care.

Nosathro -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 11:14:22 AM)
According to the article the individual policy holders would have to pay a monthly premium from $235 to $391, even as high as $3,000.00 in some case. That is affordable? I sell insurance, I got long term care policies cheaper than these prices. http://news.yahoo.com/health-overhaul-law-suffers-first-major-casualty-080351059.html?ugccmt_success=NONJS_POST_SUCCESS#ugccmt-post-frm-container

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 11:22:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro According to the article the individual policy holders would have to pay a monthly premium from $235 to $391, even as high as $3,000.00 in some case. That is affordable? I sell insurance, I got long term care policies cheaper than these prices. http://news.yahoo.com/health-overhaul-law-suffers-first-major-casualty-080351059.html?ugccmt_success=NONJS_POST_SUCCESS#ugccmt-post-frm-container LMAO. If CLASS wasnt sustainable it should be obvious how the rest of the bill isnt sustainable. I started a LTC policy when I was 50, inflation indexed, benefit levels that currently exceed even California LTC daily averages. Premium is $395....a quarter!

DomKen -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 2:40:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro According to the article the individual policy holders would have to pay a monthly premium from $235 to $391, even as high as $3,000.00 in some case. That is affordable? I sell insurance, I got long term care policies cheaper than these prices. http://news.yahoo.com/health-overhaul-law-suffers-first-major-casualty-080351059.html?ugccmt_success=NONJS_POST_SUCCESS#ugccmt-post-frm-container LMAO. If CLASS wasnt sustainable it should be obvious how the rest of the bill isnt sustainable. I started a LTC policy when I was 50, inflation indexed, benefit levels that currently exceed even California LTC daily averages. Premium is $395....a quarter! You're likely healthy with no chronic conditions. The CLASS act would have been open to everyone.

Nosathro -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 3:01:52 PM)
I worked with several Insurance Brokers, we looked at Obama plan when he first announced it. It not that those with a pre-medical condition would make it cost. There are policies that do allow pre medical conditions. It just that the plan it make it work, required the popluation of the USA to pay for it, 310 million people.

DomKen -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 3:10:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro I worked with several Insurance Brokers, we looked at Obama plan when he first announced it. It not that those with a pre-medical condition would make it cost. There are policies that do allow pre medical conditions. It just that the plan it make it work, required the popluation of the USA to pay for it, 310 million people. How is it more expensive, per person, if the maximum number of people are in the program?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 3:38:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro According to the article the individual policy holders would have to pay a monthly premium from $235 to $391, even as high as $3,000.00 in some case. That is affordable? I sell insurance, I got long term care policies cheaper than these prices. http://news.yahoo.com/health-overhaul-law-suffers-first-major-casualty-080351059.html?ugccmt_success=NONJS_POST_SUCCESS#ugccmt-post-frm-container LMAO. If CLASS wasnt sustainable it should be obvious how the rest of the bill isnt sustainable. I started a LTC policy when I was 50, inflation indexed, benefit levels that currently exceed even California LTC daily averages. Premium is $395....a quarter! You're likely healthy with no chronic conditions. The CLASS act would have been open to everyone. Well you did qualify it with likely, so youre at most 50.00000001% wrong.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 3:39:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro I worked with several Insurance Brokers, we looked at Obama plan when he first announced it. It not that those with a pre-medical condition would make it cost. There are policies that do allow pre medical conditions. It just that the plan it make it work, required the popluation of the USA to pay for it, 310 million people. How is it more expensive, per person, if the maximum number of people are in the program? I think uou misread his post. To keep the cost DOWN it would have required universal coverage.

DomKen -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 4:54:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro I worked with several Insurance Brokers, we looked at Obama plan when he first announced it. It not that those with a pre-medical condition would make it cost. There are policies that do allow pre medical conditions. It just that the plan it make it work, required the popluation of the USA to pay for it, 310 million people. How is it more expensive, per person, if the maximum number of people are in the program? I think uou misread his post. To keep the cost DOWN it would have required universal coverage. Another argument for single payer then.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 5:44:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro I worked with several Insurance Brokers, we looked at Obama plan when he first announced it. It not that those with a pre-medical condition would make it cost. There are policies that do allow pre medical conditions. It just that the plan it make it work, required the popluation of the USA to pay for it, 310 million people. How is it more expensive, per person, if the maximum number of people are in the program? I think uou misread his post. To keep the cost DOWN it would have required universal coverage. Another argument for single payer then. Yeah, go single payer so the death panels can save money for the LTC side of the house.

Lucylastic -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 5:57:53 PM)
oh fuck here we go again

xssve -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 5:59:33 PM)
Good old pubs, women and children first, now the elderly and disabled. But you do know that "women and children first" means "first in the lifeboats", not the "first to get thrown under the bus"?

erieangel -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 6:00:14 PM)
And you think your insurance doesn't have so-called "death panels"? Every time an insurance company refuses to pay for somebody to have an operation or a treatment, they are playing god and putting profits before their customers.

slvemike4u -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/15/2011 7:07:02 PM)
I take pain pills every day,in part due to an insurance company delaying a necessary operation...and than deciding ,prematurely,that I had had enough physical therapy......please don't try to tell me about insurance company"death panels".

DomKen -> RE: Obama abandons part of ACA (10/16/2011 5:44:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro I worked with several Insurance Brokers, we looked at Obama plan when he first announced it. It not that those with a pre-medical condition would make it cost. There are policies that do allow pre medical conditions. It just that the plan it make it work, required the popluation of the USA to pay for it, 310 million people. How is it more expensive, per person, if the maximum number of people are in the program? I think uou misread his post. To keep the cost DOWN it would have required universal coverage. Another argument for single payer then. Yeah, go single payer so the death panels can save money for the LTC side of the house. You're making this bullshit claim to me? After my health insurance carrier dumped my entire company to avoid paying for my dialysis? That forced me to go on disability when I would much rather have continued working in a career I loved?

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