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susannah -> Hello everyone... (10/19/2004 3:36:21 PM)

Thought I should clarify my greeting, because I re-read it and realized it might have been confusing. I am just looking here for message board conversation, as I am in a R/T relationship. I am not really looking for "sceneing", or even on-line relationshipping. Just joined to expand my knowledge of bdsm to enhance the D/s relationship my significant other and I are developing. That said, it looks to me as if there are many wonderful folks here that add to the knowledge on these boards! Hope I can add, as well as learn a lot more.
I am a middle-aged (46, but a very well-preserved 46) year old submissive from Nebraska. Looking forward to reading the boards here, adding to them, making some new friends. Just so people will know who they are talking to, I hope to get a picture up soon in my profile, but, for the record, until then, I will say: I am 5 ft. 6 inches tall, 130 pounds, green-Hazel eyes, medium length dark auburn hair. I am already in a relationship (vanilla, but he is hopefully changing to include bdsm in our activities, albeit fairly slowly, but he is trying, and I am not polyamorous). I have been excited to see so many friendly and knowledgeable folks on this board, and am looking forward making new friends and gaining knowledge, and hopefully have something to add as well. Hope everyone is having a reasonably good week so far! Take care. - Susannah




theroebabe -> RE: Hello everyone... (10/20/2004 3:29:21 AM)

Hi Susannah and welcome to the boards at CM!

Yes it is a wonderful place to meet and talk with like minded folks.

I see you have jumped in already and know that the water is fine!




proudsub -> RE: Hello everyone... (10/20/2004 10:31:15 AM)

Welcome susannah. I have enjoyed your posts so far.[:)]




susannah -> RE: Hello everyone... (10/20/2004 10:39:44 AM)

Thank you, theroebabe, it's nice to meet you! - Susannah




susannah -> RE: Hello everyone... (10/20/2004 11:05:12 AM)

Thank you Proudsub, I appreciate that. I noticed you are one of the few whose posts I've read that has managed to re-work a vanilla relationship into a D/s one. I am attempting the same, and at times it's fine, and other times I am so discouraged I am ready to jump off a bridge. I love my husband, and he wants to please me (says he does anyway - I do believe that), and I want to please him. But he's not as "on fire" to change our relationship to a D/s one as I am - it IS a need with me, I have a submissive need at my core, and it's not going away.

I don't think D/s is near as important for him, and he does initiate things occasionally, and acts like he enjoys them (when we do things like flogging and spanking, it's GREAT, and he says he likes it, too, and acts like it). But he doesn't seem to need it unless I bring it up, most of the time. We haven't anywhere near approached a "contract", or anything like that yet.

I rarely run on like this, and am normally pretty "self-contained", but I really need advice from someone who has tried (and succeeded) at this particular situation. I have a ....

Question - How did you and your husband "get into" (and stay "into") making your relationship a D/s bdsm relationship? Any advice would be appreciated.

Maybe necessary, maybe not "background" info: I have been in my relationship (and legally married), for 13 years. My husband is 10 years older then me (which is great). It is my first marriage (I didn't get married until I was almost 35) - and it is his second marriage (he was married for 17 years to someone else before me). He has two sons, aged 27 and 29, whom we both see and get along fine with, but they are grown up and have not lived with either him or their mother for years. We have no children of our own, and at our age, don't plan on having any. At my age, Down's syndrome and other complications (plus a few horrible genetic diseases that run in my family thatI don't want to chance passing on) make it impractical, but at one time, we considered adoption (at least I did).

I originally wanted at least one child, and when we were enagaged and during the first few years of marriage, he said "fine" - but - it didn't happen, and I didn't want to get pregnant (for reasons stated above) and he kept putting off saying yes to looking into adoption - for years. Maybe I was a fool, but on one hand, I do work with disadvantaged and abused kids, so I know how unwise it is to force this kind of decision on anyone, and didn't want to do that. It really did hurt, though, that he let things drift in that regard for as long as he did, and now we both realize it's too late. Although that would be a "deal breaker" for many couples, other facets of our relationship were so good at the time (besides sex and includingsex) plus and lots of other things (we have a lot in common otherwise, as far as hobbies, etc.), I decided I could live with it. I know we will never have kids and am okay with that now.

I think D/s could be a great thing for us (it is for me, and he enjoys it, I know he does) But, I want HIM to initiate more things, and don't know how to get that to happen. I don't believe he is what one would call "naturally Dominant", but he is by no means what I'd consider a male sub - I think he's truly "in the middle" somewhere.

As far as myself, I try to keep in shape and try to keep myself looking nice, am not a whiner or a "nagger", keep a nice house, am a great cook, would never embarrass him in public, etc. - I am trying to be a good wife. This doesn't seem like a huge thing to ask of someone, but maybe it is. I hope not.

I realize there are volcanoes erupting and people are starving, and there's war in many places, and my little "issue" doesn't amount to a whole lot in comparison - but HOW do I try to get him to get us "on track" and keep us "on track"? I thought I knew, but it's becoming apparent to me lately I maybe have no clue.

Proudsub, I promise I won't bend your ear again (really, I NEVER run on like this, but you are in the same situation (or, you were once). If I promise not to run on and on, if I occasionally (and I do mean occasionally, not frequently, like daily or anything) have a question about something specific re: this situation, may I e-mail you about it?

- Susannah




proudsub -> RE: Hello everyone... (10/20/2004 11:37:29 AM)

quote:

Question: How did you and your husband "get into" (and stay "into") making your relationship a D/s bdsm relationship? Any advice would be appreciated.


It started when He found out about my affair with a local dom. He saw a picture that my dom had posted in a photo contest on a cam site. I was naked cuffed to straps over a door. Needless to say He was quite shocked and wanted an explanation. I explained about my need to be submissive, how bored i had been with the same ole same ole sex at home, etc. It was the first time in then 34 years we had ever discussed sex and our desires openly with each other. He had always been pretty dominant in other aspects of our lives and i was pretty much a 50's wife except for having worked part time for many years. Anyway He immediately forgave me and said He wanted to learn to be my Master. That day we went together to the local adult store and bought a beginners bondage kit and a few other toys. I gave Him a few websites to read which He did. He is trying hard to make this work and enjoying it from what i can tell. He won't humiliate me or give me as much pain as i would like, but it certainly is a lot better than it was. Also He would never go to anyone for some training, so we don't do anything risky. He still asks occassionally if there is anything else i want to try. We also watch bondage dvds together on occassion and i think that helps a lot. One thing He won't do is let anyone know about this, He says they just wouldn't understand, and would consider us perverts. So we don't do anything in public or go to munches either. This forum is as public as we get.

I hope that helps some. Feel free to email me here anytime.




susannah -> RE: Hello everyone... (10/20/2004 12:25:01 PM)

Thanks for the reply, Proudsub. I know things could be better as far as D/s between my husband and me(they could be worse, too, but mostly better).

Bondage videos are something I had not thought of - I am going to try that. I also know we won't be going to any munches, etc. because, while I also think a lot of people would think we were perverts and this part of our life should remain private to those who are not aware this lifestyle exists (or who agree with it) - I am disappointed because I really wanted to go to the Black Rose convention in a few weeks, just to see it - I am not into public sceneing (heck, right now I am hardly into private sceneing, hehe). I know that that Black Rose convention it would freak him out bigtime, though, and we probably need to keep it at home.

However, I do think maybe a serious discussion is in order - I have said how important this is to me, but I think in the grand scheme of things, he thinks this is a bit "silly": (like, isn't there a war in Iraq, doesn't he have to work tommorrow, don't I have to clean the house? aren't there more important things than my sex life?, etc.). I don't think he yet realizes to me this isn't all about sex, it's about a relationship and how we RELATE. I don't think he gets that. I think that my husband thinks this is a "hobby" and it is going to fade into the woodwork, along with my desire for it. If I "keep up the pace", we'll keep the focus on D/s - if I don't, it will go down the tubes.
If he knew how important this was, he might take it more seriously.

I know he never said he wanted to be my Master, as your husband did. I think he needs to know this is really, really important to me. I know he shows he loves me in many other ways. Anyway - Thanks so much for talking - I'll keep you updated! - Susannah




proudsub -> RE: Hello everyone... (10/20/2004 12:38:59 PM)

Another suggestion might be to go shopping with him at an adult store and point out a few things you might enjoy trying. Good luck with it susannah. Here is a thread you might find interesting:

vanilla partners





susannah -> RE: Hello everyone... (10/20/2004 12:41:09 PM)

There is a store like that not two miles from where we live. I am going to see if he will go with me. Thanks for suggesting it, and for the thread reference - you're a doll! - Susannah




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