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SternSkipper -> Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 7:09:21 AM)

I just got an email from one of the other volunteers stating the following:

"Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke will be passing through Dewey Square at 2 pm and 5:30 pm today on his way to and from the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston's annual conference. Occupy Boston is putting out a call volunteers to hold signs, picket, and make sure that Chairman Bernanke gets our (respectful, nonviolent) message!"

Guess I'm headed to Boston. Man this guy is must be into humiliation or something.




FirstQuaker -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 9:32:33 AM)

The great thief Bernanke should have a gallows erected in his honor in the square, instead of a non-violent protest.

He makes Madoff look like a Boy Scout by comparison.






DomYngBlk -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 9:36:36 AM)

A carton of eggs a bucket of shit and piss.....on his head is much more effective




SternSkipper -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 1:08:24 PM)

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A carton of eggs a bucket of shit and piss.....on his head is much more effective


What I worry about is that that second park on the greenway, the one they kicked everbody out of last tuesday morning, it's got a 'grassy knoll'




SternSkipper -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 1:41:28 PM)

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The great thief Bernanke should have a gallows erected in his honor in the square, instead of a non-violent protest.
He makes Madoff look like a Boy Scout by comparison.


Cool ... Do your local occupation a favor and STAY home.
We've done more with a few hundred occurrences of "you have the right to remain silent" already than we thought possible. Non-violence is the cornerstone of our credibility.
And you ought to apologize to the Boy Scouts[:D]




kalikshama -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 3:35:43 PM)

Do you have any updates? I couldn't find anything online yet.




SternSkipper -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 6:57:23 PM)

I just finally got one from my Buddy Josh, He teaches Tibetan @ Harvard Tuesday evenings.
The Chairman did roll through (basically had to to get to Logan quickly) BUT His driver took a kind of reverse route around Dewey, so only about haf the protesters were able to shift over and catch him Josh DID SAY he saw the signs and it looked like he showed genuine curiosity... for whatever that's worth. It had to be disconcerting seeing that faction of people (particularly the guys I now call "The Paulists" ... cause I was raised catholic... and I've noticed it drives em nuts)... They all have the "End The Fed" signs.





Sanity -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 8:27:05 PM)


Good luck keeping the loons kenneled, after all the overtime you spent frothing them up

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3868961

quote:

ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:

The great thief Bernanke should have a gallows erected in his honor in the square, instead of a non-violent protest.
He makes Madoff look like a Boy Scout by comparison.


Cool ... Do your local occupation a favor and STAY home.
We've done more with a few hundred occurrences of "you have the right to remain silent" already than we thought possible. Non-violence is the cornerstone of our credibility.
And you ought to apologize to the Boy Scouts[:D]




FirstQuaker -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 8:39:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Good luck keeping the loons kenneled, after all the overtime you spent frothing them up

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3868961

quote:

ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:

The great thief Bernanke should have a gallows erected in his honor in the square, instead of a non-violent protest.
He makes Madoff look like a Boy Scout by comparison.


Cool ... Do your local occupation a favor and STAY home.
We've done more with a few hundred occurrences of "you have the right to remain silent" already than we thought possible. Non-violence is the cornerstone of our credibility.
And you ought to apologize to the Boy Scouts[:D]



Don't worry, even the GOP has been working overtime lately on Helicopter Ben -

quote:

Republican White House hopeful and Texas Governor Rick Perry faced disbelieving and angry reactions Tuesday to remarks seen as threats of implied violence against Federal Reserve chief Ben Bernanke.


And both Romney and Gingrich say they would fire him -
Romney, Gingrich: Time to Fire Bernanke
He hasn't got a whole lot of friends of any political stripe these days who aren't bankers.




Sanity -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 9:02:52 PM)


Thats become the standard response, hasnt it?

"Its okay, because a Republican might have done something kinda sorta similar once..."




FirstQuaker -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/18/2011 9:31:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Thats become the standard response, hasnt it?

"Its okay, because a Republican might have done something kinda sorta similar once..."


Actually I thought it was nice when the mainstream GOP presidential candidates want to see Bernanke dumped. It shows the libertarian end of the GOP is getting some traction.




xssve -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/19/2011 8:31:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

The great thief Bernanke should have a gallows erected in his honor in the square, instead of a non-violent protest.

He makes Madoff look like a Boy Scout by comparison.



You do know that Paulson was basically running the economy during this whole thing, and Goldman is right at the center of everything, from the run on Lehman that started it to the bailouts engineered by Paulson - it was an inside job, and Paulson was a Bush pick - as is Bernanke for that matter, even though Bernanke is just trying to plug the credit hole created by investment banks like Goldman.

I think Bernanke is better than Greenspan, he just happened to walk into a mess that was in large part created by Greenspan pandering to republican debt abuse, public and private.

And debt abuse is a hallmark of republican administrations, you scream "tax and spend democrats", while you spend twice as fast and expect your grandchildren to pay it back.

It's like free money, right?




xssve -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/19/2011 8:35:36 AM)

And, you can spin it any way you like, more people are driven into bankruptcy by debt than by taxation, it's statistical fact.




FirstQuaker -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/19/2011 8:59:18 AM)

Actually I see Bernanke as Greenspan's understudy and protege..

At any rate the pair was and is responsible in large part for the economic disaster, and the pair knew what they were doing..

I did not see Paulson as able to walk and chew gum at the same time.

You don't think it is coincidence the banks and financial corporations have been hauling in record profits while the rest of the planet does the slow burn on Bernanke's  watch is just a coincidence.

When I saw Obama kept him and added Geithner  to the mix, I figured either Obama did not know anything about financial matters, did not care about financial matters, or worse, actually desired what was to come.

But since this was the tone of the Federal Reserve and its operators ever since Reagan appointed Greenspan and thus US bank policy has been basically Greenspan's handiwork since then, you can not help but seeing as Bernanke as the helmsman and handpicked captain for this pirate ship.

So if you want to give credit where it is due, between Bernanke and Greenspan, you have the two men most responsible for the US's financial problems, and who are in large part responsible for the ones the world is facing.

Trillions of dollars. Never mind the lost jobs, the people living on the streets, and every other consequence. I have seen people argue how they are guilty of treason, the only weak spot is who the enemy is/was they sold old out to. (China is the best argument, but since the US is not at war with the country . . .)

OWS has my sympathies, but protesting the conduct of criminal psychopaths is not apt to be productive, and I don't think any of the top of the lot operating or profiting this criminal combine care about what the public thinks.




xssve -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/19/2011 10:39:06 AM)

Greenspan and Bernanke are similar only in that their primary responsibility is to serve the Fed, that's what the Fed chairman does - Bernanke is, however, more concerned with deflation than inflation, in fact current inflation is deliberate, because Bernanke is more worried about deflatio:

quote:

"The sources of deflation are not a mystery. Deflation is in almost all cases a side effect of a collapse of aggregate demand – a drop in spending so severe that producers must cut prices on an ongoing basis in order to find buyers. Likewise, the economic effects of a deflationary episode, for the most part, are similar to those of any other sharp decline in aggregate spending—namely, recession, rising unemployment, and financial stress."


Wikipedia: Bernanke Doctrine

Greenspan experienced the inflationary 70's, Bernanke has studied the deflationary forces that have been more of an issue since the Eighties, Japan,etc.

Greenspan was all about the tight dollar, Bernanke likes a loose dollar, these policies are in fact the polar opposite - they're both convinced that monetarist policy can fix anything, and if they share a weakness, that would be it, IMO.

What this means for producers is that ts good time to get into the export business, inflation and loose dollar would make us competitive again in the global export market where we've been losing ground since the late Seventies, so the incentive to outsource jobs is weaker under the Bernanke doctrine, but for investors it's still a question of margins, specifically w/regard to regulatory and monetary costs: i.e., if they can make more money relocating to where labor is cheap and regulations weak, they'll do that.

And that, I'm afraid, is republican policy in a nutshell which panders to investors and protects profit margins at the expense of wages and employment, i.e., their constant carping about unions, minimum wage, regulations, etc., the rationale being we have to become a third world country in order to compete with third world countries in the global market, so any and all of this current situation is patently the result of republican policy, and deliberate policy at that, it's no accident.

Nor is the result of democratic policy: it wasn't Carters policy, it wasn't Clinton/Gores policy, it isn't Obama's policy, it's policy instigated by Reagan/Greenspan, furthered considerably by Bush/Greenspan - although you might as well call it all Bush/Greenspan, since Reagan was basically a cutout., a "face".

Bankrupting the government, getting rid of SS, regulating small business while letting corporations do whatever they want, even financing them through both subsidy and tax cuts - it's all policy designed to reduce wages and create a loose labor market - a buyers market.

Seems to be working, eh? Congratulations.






FirstQuaker -> RE: Bernanke Headed Through Dewey Sq (10/19/2011 11:00:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: xssve

Greenspan and Bernanke are similar only in that their primary responsibility is to serve the Fed, that's what the Fed chairman does - Bernanke is, however, more concerned with deflation than inflation, in fact current inflation is deliberate, because Bernanke is more worried about deflatio:

quote:

"The sources of deflation are not a mystery. Deflation is in almost all cases a side effect of a collapse of aggregate demand – a drop in spending so severe that producers must cut prices on an ongoing basis in order to find buyers. Likewise, the economic effects of a deflationary episode, for the most part, are similar to those of any other sharp decline in aggregate spending—namely, recession, rising unemployment, and financial stress."


Wikipedia: Bernanke Doctrine

Greenspan experienced the inflationary 70's, Bernanke has studied the deflationary forces that have been more of an issue since the Eighties, Japan,etc.

Greenspan was all about the tight dollar, Bernanke likes a loose dollar, these policies are in fact the polar opposite - they're both convinced that monetarist policy can fix anything, and if they share a weakness, that would be it, IMO.

What this means for producers is that ts good time to get into the export business, inflation and loose dollar would make us competitive again in the global export market where we've been losing ground since the late Seventies, so the incentive to outsource jobs is weaker under the Bernanke doctrine, but for investors it's still a question of margins, specifically w/regard to regulatory and monetary costs: i.e., if they can make more money relocating to where labor is cheap and regulations weak, they'll do that.

And that, I'm afraid, is republican policy in a nutshell which panders to investors and protects profit margins at the expense of wages and employment, i.e., their constant carping about unions, minimum wage, regulations, etc., the rationale being we have to become a third world country in order to compete with third world countries in the global market, so any and all of this current situation is patently the result of republican policy, and deliberate policy at that, it's no accident.

Nor is the result of democratic policy: it wasn't Carters policy, it wasn't Clinton/Gores policy, it isn't Obama's policy, it's policy instigated by Reagan/Greenspan, furthered considerably by Bush/Greenspan - although you might as well call it all Bush/Greenspan, since Reagan was basically a cutout., a "face".

Bankrupting the government, getting rid of SS, regulating small business while letting corporations do whatever they want, even financing them through both subsidy and tax cuts - it's all policy designed to reduce wages and create a loose labor market - a buyers market.

Seems to be working, eh? Congratulations.





Clinton, that fine corporate Democrat, worked it hard too, but he wat least was clever enough not to let the thing fail on his watch..

Just call it multinational corporate swindling policy and you are accurately describing the thing. And no, I don't see enough difference between Bernanke and Greenspan to notice.




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