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ORIGINAL: FirstQuaker

The politician brave enough to say this in public and run on and act like he or she believes it is the one to pick.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

My issue with the Tea Party is the "me" mentality they possess.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Masta808

This coming from someone who has proven he has no idea what the hell he is talking about as [Mod note - link removed].

Shit-stirring again, and another childish attempt at attempting to incite.

Have you come to stalking now, Masta?  Following me around like a little boy, screaming "I wanna, I wanna, I wanna!" in three different threads now?

Grow up and maybe you can have an actual conversation and discussion with adult people.  Stop trying to play the sardonic gotcha games that you are playing, and maybe someone will take you seriously.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~chuckles

I will take my babbling voice out of your line of ear shot then, Dear.

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

The bailouts were in many ways, the culmination of a slew of legislative and political fumbles. We can talk all day about who did what, but in terms of what caused this panic, the collapse of the housing industry certainly fueled it. You can trace that directly back to Democrats. It's a pissing contest for the most part, i,e, who can piss on the other most, when in fact, I wouldn't waste a good piss to put out either side if they were on fire.

Republicans are to blame. Democrats are to blame. The most blame however, lies on voters who simply want to push the idiot buttons labeled R and D that shoots said urine at each other. Every time I turn around some shitty little thing Obama does is defended by Bush did... and when Bush was in office, the same shit flowed the other way with the finger pointing going back to Clinton.

I am not a all-evils-flow-from-democrats man. But the constant bickering, the constant THEY did this or THEY did that is for lack of a better word, bullshit. We're sold on the model and that model is all we can seem to manage - we being the people, the citizens who actually vote, the only income generator in the whole fucking mess.

What's funny is the people who scream THEY loudest, can't even keep their they's consistent with their screaming. O59 decries republicans and bailouts in the same breath when most of the nay votes were in fact, republican.

As far as budgets go, I'm pretty damned happy with the Tea Party people stance. It's about friggin time someone in Washington had some backbone, enough to teach all the little control freaks and make-up wearers that it's not the same old game. Posture, threaten, dictate all you want, but the buck stops here because that's WHAT we were elected to do.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

The bailouts were in many ways, the culmination of a slew of legislative and political fumbles. We can talk all day about who did what, but in terms of what caused this panic, the collapse of the housing industry certainly fueled it. You can trace that directly back to Democrats. It's a pissing contest for the most part, i,e, who can piss on the other most, when in fact, I wouldn't waste a good piss to put out either side if they were on fire.

Republicans are to blame. Democrats are to blame. The most blame however, lies on voters who simply want to push the idiot buttons labeled R and D that shoots said urine at each other. Every time I turn around some shitty little thing Obama does is defended by Bush did... and when Bush was in office, the same shit flowed the other way with the finger pointing going back to Clinton.

I am not a all-evils-flow-from-democrats man. But the constant bickering, the constant THEY did this or THEY did that is for lack of a better word, bullshit. We're sold on the model and that model is all we can seem to manage - we being the people, the citizens who actually vote, the only income generator in the whole fucking mess.

What's funny is the people who scream THEY loudest, can't even keep their they's consistent with their screaming. O59 decries republicans and bailouts in the same breath when most of the nay votes were in fact, republican.

As far as budgets go, I'm pretty damned happy with the Tea Party people stance. It's about friggin time someone in Washington had some backbone, enough to teach all the little control freaks and make-up wearers that it's not the same old game. Posture, threaten, dictate all you want, but the buck stops here because that's WHAT we were elected to do.

What he said.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

So back to the thread.

Is it fair that Cain put the onus on the victims of the recession,the unemployed,for their plight?

They certainly didn`t have anything directly to do with it.

Why is this guy so cock-sure about bashing Americans who`re out of work?

These folks aren`t chosing not to work,lose their homes and go bankrupt.They would be working if there were jobs for them.

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The only thing I've seen in this thread is the video to his defense of his original comments during the debate, in which it is apparent that he is saying that his comments were about Washington and voting, not about "being too lazy to work".

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Masta808

This coming from someone who has proven he has no idea what the hell he is talking about as [Mod note - link removed for continuity].

Shit-stirring again, and another childish attempt at attempting to incite.

Have you come to stalking now, Masta?  Following me around like a little boy, screaming "I wanna, I wanna, I wanna!" in three different threads now?

Grow up and maybe you can have an actual conversation and discussion with adult people.  Stop trying to play the sardonic gotcha games that you are playing, and maybe someone will take you seriously.

Firm

give the little boy a break. At least he has stopped pretending to be a conservative. That's one step toward honest communication.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

give the little boy a break. At least he has stopped pretending to be a conservative. That's one step toward honest communication.

My favorite is using their own logic against them usually by being a hypocrite. ...But most of the time its not that straight forward. I like to use subtly when making my points which usually gets me attacked by both sides. Thats the fun part because I found it is those that are actually smart actually understand what I m doing. The other people instead lose their minds. The best part is egging them on to continue following their own logic or backpedaling on their argument.

This all stems from my favorite comment of last year, “You cant argue with stupid people they dont use any logic.” I have found it better to use these tactics than actually engage in debate because many people will dismiss facts or evidence that dont agree with their views or position. In many cases dismiss you and start resorting to personal attacks. But by using my tactics I have found most will never respond, the smart ones will laugh, other will go along with the belief, but the best is when they have conflicting beliefs and argue to back it up. You can see the wheels turning in their head trying to justify both beliefs. Many times they like to make special case scenarios to justify their beliefs, but usually dont think things through which just furthers on my egging.

I started my merge of politics and BDSM on collarme well because I read some of the political post and found a few people that it would be fun to use my tactics on. As George Carlin said “Think of how stupid the average person is and realize that half of them are stupider than that.” Which is why I am having so much fun. Most of the time its like giving some people rope to hang themselves.