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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 10:14:06 AM

Iamsemisweet

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LOL. Oh, I don't know. Do you think you might be able to learn to spell my name correctly? I once had an assistant who spelled my name about 4 different ways in a single document. I mean, come on. Grammatical and spelling errors are one thing in posts on the web, something else in a business document.

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Gee. I wish I could find someone in the "secretarial class" like you are describing. That would be a dream come true, I have been looking for an assistant like that for years. Accuracy and grammar matter in my work, and I am tired of proof reading my assistant's work, instead of the the other way around.
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I stand ready to be hired, Ma'am.

Now that would be an odd combination, would it not?

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 10:53:15 AM

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THIS is freakin GREAT!! (Especially if you have seen INglorious Basterds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM&feature=related

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:07:31 AM

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Only when you attend 8th or 9th grade english class. The prohibition is more concerned with reducing sentence fragments in naif authors than as an element of style and propriety.

Strunk and White has no casus belli regarding it.

AND you can quote me.

^^^ AGREED ^^^ Oh, wait......

And I agree.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:11:08 AM

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THIS is freakin GREAT!! (Especially if you have seen INglorious Basterds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM&feature=related

Thanks, GT!

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:15:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
LOL. Oh, I don't know. Do you think you might be able to learn to spell my name correctly? I once had an assistant who spelled my name about 4 different ways in a single document. I mean, come on. Grammatical and spelling errors are one thing in posts on the web, something else in a business document.

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
Gee. I wish I could find someone in the "secretarial class" like you are describing. That would be a dream come true, I have been looking for an assistant like that for years. Accuracy and grammar matter in my work, and I am tired of proof reading my assistant's work, instead of the the other way around.
<snipped>

I stand ready to be hired, Ma'am.

Now that would be an odd combination, would it not?

Yes, Ma'am. I would. As a copy editor for a gay porn magazine for almost 10 years, you can be assured that the characters in the stories I was editing always retained their names. My most recent experience in writing e-mails for a boss (as you are - a woman - anyone else see a pattern?) had me checking a 10-letter last name of Norwegian derivation.

// Lance goes takes a break while he contemplates the prospect of once again working for a woman and using "Ma'am." //

Actually, that's better from my POV than being "submissive" to a gay man.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:28:21 AM

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I would assume that son was the last 3 letters, unless it was datter in which case you only need to check 4.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:30:10 AM

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Well Lance, the first rule of our new employment relationship would have to be that you can't call me "Ma'am." I prefer Ms. Semisweet.

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Alice: How do you know I'm mad?
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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:30:42 AM

Epytropos

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Online, I don't really care how people type unless it's so bad that I can't even decipher it. At that point I just pass it on by because I'm not going to sit here and try to figure it out.

If I'm interested in someone for a relationship and being that I find dominant men to be attractive, then yes the way he spells, his grammar is going to be important to me. He could be the smartest man alive but if he is claiming to be a dominant personality man then he's going to care about how he comes across in his typewritten words to me.

I'm curious to see what connection you draw between dominance and spelling. Is syntax really the mark of a strong personality in your mind?

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:37:44 AM

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A dominant personality will take the time to read over what he wrote. He will use spell check to make sure it's correct. He isn't going to send out something that he feels does not live up to his quality. For me personally a dominant personality is quite a bit more methodical and pickier than the average personality.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:39:45 AM

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Aw, I dunno bout that. Punctilliousness in all aspects of MY life is not what I am after, if I can get a gril to run aroond.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:45:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

A dominant personality will take the time to read over what he wrote. He will use spell check to make sure it's correct. He isn't going to send out something that he feels does not live up to his quality. For me personally a dominant personality is quite a bit more methodical and pickier than the average personality.

Lol I'm trying to imagine what you would think of me if we spent a few hours together. If I were going to pick one single word which did not in any way describe me "methodical" would be a photo-finish with "organized.' I do tend to edit things I write at least once before posting/sending, but that's as much professional pride as anything. Certainly it's a habit altogether out of phase with the rest of my personality.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:47:37 AM

Iamsemisweet

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I agree with littlewonder on this one, at least in part. I am not sure I feel that correct spelling and grammar is an indication of "domliness" but I also screened potential partners based on the grammar and spelling they used in their emails to me. The one time I ignored this rule (he was 6 '6, and his picture was cute) I quickly regretted it. He turned out to be as big a dumb ass as his emails should have told me he was.

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Alice: How do you know I'm mad?
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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:50:53 AM

GreedyTop

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sounding downright Scottish with that 'aroond', there, Ron ;)

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:52:09 AM

Iamsemisweet

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This was hilarious. Thanks for posting it.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

THIS is freakin GREAT!! (Especially if you have seen INglorious Basterds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM&feature=related

_____________________________

Alice: But I don't want to go among mad people.
The Cat: Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.
Alice: How do you know I'm mad?
The Cat: You must be. Or you wouldn't have come here.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:52:11 AM

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He turned out to be as big a dumb ass as his emails should have told me he was.

Would you rather have a short smart ass?

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:53:51 AM

Iamsemisweet

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Apparently, since a short smart ass is who I ended up with. He is really, really smart.

What I learned from my previous mistake was that a picture is NOT, in fact, worth a 1000 words.

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

He turned out to be as big a dumb ass as his emails should have told me he was.

Would you rather have a short smart ass?

< Message edited by Iamsemisweet -- 10/20/2011 11:54:19 AM >

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Alice: But I don't want to go among mad people.
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Alice: How do you know I'm mad?
The Cat: You must be. Or you wouldn't have come here.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 11:57:48 AM

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if I remember correctly, at least I think it was you who mentioned it, you're really not big on cleanliness...that you don't see it as that big a deal to have things lying around your house and to be picked up and put away. For me, that right there would drive me insane and we probably wouldn't hit it off. It's probably something I would notice just from us sitting down to a cup of coffee because that's how I am. I pick up on small details like that.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 12:11:36 PM

LanceHughes

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Well Lance, the first rule of our new employment relationship would have to be that you can't call me "Ma'am." I prefer Ms. Semisweet.

Yes, Ms. Semisweet. Agreed. May I call you "Semi" for short? LOL!

My first rule in our negotiated relationship would be "Full payment on time." The porn mag spoiled me. I turned in corrected gallies - "cut" after they made corrections proofed on last draft - and the publisher wrote the check in front of me.

Always wondered about the phrase "last draft." How do you know it's the last one?

< Message edited by LanceHughes -- 10/20/2011 12:36:26 PM >

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 12:39:26 PM

Iamsemisweet

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NO! This is already not going well. "Semi" makes me sound like a truck. You can call me Sweet, for short.

As for your "last draft" question, I don't know. Good one. Maybe your editors were optimistic? Maybe they thought your drafts just could not be improved on?

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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Well Lance, the first rule of our new employment relationship would have to be that you can't call me "Ma'am." I prefer Ms. Semisweet.

Yes, Ms. Semisweet. Agreed. May I call you "Semi" for short? LOL!

Always wondered about the phrase "last draft." How do you know it's the last one?

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Alice: But I don't want to go among mad people.
The Cat: Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.
Alice: How do you know I'm mad?
The Cat: You must be. Or you wouldn't have come here.

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RE: Yes, I AM the spelling police! - 10/20/2011 1:12:59 PM

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LanceHughes:
I worked as a copy editor for a gay porn magazine for 10 years. My all time favorite: "He let out a groin of satisfaction."

Actually, he probably did let his 'groin' out. Love ya, LH! (Yes, I know I wrote 'ya' instead of 'you'. This is my nod to xxblushesxx's post here:

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xxblushesxx:
Writers who take creative liberties with the language only do so after learning how to properly use such language. It is apparent when reading literature when authors are using "voice" to depict their characters. This often requires breaking the rules they have steadfastly learned and adhered to in other areas.

This is turning out to be a very educational thread on so many levels. So far I've learned some new grammar assists (such as Lance's 'who' and 'whom') to help guide me in the future when I don't trust my native instincts. Which reminds me I left out another fun one, "who's" and "whose". I've increased my vocabulary. Thanks for that!

It's also reinforced that the recent state of our public US educational system is so much at fault for their citizens' (in)ability to write. Working in college health care for 18 years, I saw this shift gathering momentum...every year it got worse. It was discouraging to see these poor kids were actually at college level. In time I started to see notes from their instructors showing up with a lot of the same poor literacy...I figured that was a good time to retire.

The sweet folks who apologized for their humble skills in written communication seem to try the hardest. Their posts were heartfelt, beautifully constructed and very easy to read and understand. It's also been interesting to note the posters advising me to 'get over it' have absolutely flawless written communication. Even the usual poopy posts were spelling and grammatical gems!

Will anything change for the 'better'? 'Prolly' not. Time and again our parents and grandparents expressed their frustration over the younger generation's language skills rapidly becoming derelict...and so it goes. Will I 'get over it' and adapt? The concept is both freeing and sad at the same time; right now my answer is "idk".

Thanks to all who contributed, especially the ESL posters and those with stated disabilities; it was brave and beautiful of you to speak up here. Thanks to the poopies if for no other reason than to reinforce your poopiness...'to thine own self be true.'

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