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LadiesBladewing -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 7:28:06 PM)

I tend to prefer proper grammar. Titles, proper names, etc. should be capitalized no matter where they fall in a sentence. If it isn't a title or a proper name, I don't see the point in capitalizing it.

Proper grammar... it isn't just for grade school any more. *chuckles*

ZWD


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ORIGINAL: MissyRane

I'm wondering..some of you doms/dommes refer to yourselves with a capitalized first letter.....but then others don't, it's just a matter preference I do know that, but do Y/you..(?) get offended if people refer to you without using the capitalized letter? E.g. I'm not used to capitalize first letter unless it's in a chatroom I visit sometimes since in there it is a rule, but otherwise I don't pay attention to it, 'cause it really doesn't make any sense to me, you're the same dominant (in my eyes) with or without the caps so I've been wondering if it really does offend you?




FloridaISIS -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 7:35:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

I Have Decided, Because I Am So Dominant, To Cap Every Word I Speak/Type From Now On.
 
[&:]
 
On a more semi-serious note, ever see anyone cap their own but go out of their way to type everyone else's name in lower case? Talk about somebody needing an enema.....
 
LeVeL


Have seen this one. Also have come across a Domme who would never in the 2 years I've known her cap other Dom/mes names. She'd catch he*ll on it too sometimes. There was a switch who demanded her name to be capped, and would go off if a sub didn't. Literally tear them a new arse, so finally most in the room decided due to hell she was giving the subs, we'd dish it right back at her and not cap her name. Oh twas so fun. There's a right and wrong way to go about things, all she had to do was ask politely, and not belittle and chew out the subs.
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zumala -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 7:37:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: feastie

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ORIGINAL: dogobedience

please spell it GRAND PUBA, thank you


Tiger, it's actually Poobah.


How about Pumba?  *ducks*  [;)]
 
Now, about the actual thread topic...  I just treat their name the same as I see it in their posts.  If they cap it, I cap it.  If not, I don't.  Pretty simple.  [:D]
zuma




bbwsubnnorcal -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 7:39:41 PM)

Okay A/all....

A history lesson... long, long ago before Flash or any other fancy chat system.... there was IRC... lowly Internet Relay Chat.

There were no profiles... In fact, there was no way to tell W/who was W/who.  Hence, the CAP/lowercase was invented.

And it has stuck around ever since. 

Now considering that this girl gets notes sent to her from even this place that states, "Hey gurl! wat up. do u wanna play wit me cuz i'm hung, yung, and full a"  (CRAP, in her humble opinion)... she really doesn't care about the CAP or not to cap...





Najakcharmer -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 7:45:44 PM)

I have no idea why anyone would assume that they have the right to act out their D/s roles with total strangers.  Unless you think it is appropriate to spank store clerks and bank tellers for not calling you Master or Mistress, there is no reason to believe that any other complete stranger automatically consents to engage in any form of D/s with you.  The fact that they are also in the BDSM lifestyle does not mean that they consent to live that life with you personally.

People who do that shit when talking to me get blocked and ignored.  Don't play any type of D/s game with me without asking my consent first, or our interaction is over.  If you're talking to me, and you actually want a response as opposed to just making me laugh at you and put you on ignore, talk like a normal human being.  Don't capitalize your pronouns like deity or royalty, don't butcher the English language, don't do that ridiculously hard to read I/i M/me O/our W/we thing. 

People can do whatever they want to with consenting others, but not everybody consents to acting out their D/s roles with you.  So it's safer to ask first rather than to just assume.




RSWingman -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 8:16:25 PM)

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People who do that shit when talking to me get blocked and ignored.  Don't play any type of D/s game with me without asking my consent first, or our interaction is over.  If you're talking to me, and you actually want a response as opposed to just making me laugh at you and put you on ignore, talk like a normal human being.  Don't capitalize your pronouns like deity or royalty, don't butcher the English language, don't do that ridiculous I/i M/me O/our W/we thing. 


Clarification?    Would it offend you (and see, my instinct was to cap right there), if a sub were to approach you with good grammar and manners, but also did the capping thing?  Would you at least inform them of your preference?

As a sub, that's what I always did; and I considered it an act of respect.  Besides, shouldn't one "play the part" (not that it's playing) that they're looking to fill?  Would that earn them a Block/Ignore from you?  This is the first I've heard of this attitude.

I'm sure there are plenty Dommes out there, who expect this.  It could be really confusing for a sub who's trying to "do it right", but every time he makes an adjustment to his approach, someone gets offended, or worse, he just gets "tossed-out" and never gets a response or any feedback ('cause we all know how many "apps" a woman has to go through).

r/RS




petwolf22 -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 8:52:25 PM)

i'd spank a store clerk or two...[:D]




FloridaISIS -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 9:05:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: petwolf22

i'd spank a store clerk or two...[:D]


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Najakcharmer -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 9:10:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RSWingman

Clarification?    Would it offend you (and see, my instinct was to cap right there), if a sub were to approach you with good grammar and manners, but also did the capping thing?  Would you at least inform them of your preference?


It would depend on how they did the approaching.  If it was done with good manners and courteous intent, I would return courtesy for courtesy and explain my feelings on the subject.  Generally I explain that to me, D/s is not something I am willing to do at random with strangers, because in some respects it is an intimate exchange, and in some respects accepting someone's submission on any level engages my sense of personal honor and responsibility towards them.  I ask that if they wish to converse with me, they do so in a normal and friendly adult manner as if I was not a lifestyle person.

At the point at which they feel they know me well enough to truly want to submit to me based on what they know of me as a person, they are welcome to ask my consent for this type of interaction.  I will probably give it.  But it's a two way street, and if I give someone permission to look to me as dominant over them *on any level*, I assume some degree of personal responsibility for them in that time and place.  We have effectively entered a D/s relationship, even if it is a relatively shallow and temporary one, and I take it seriously because that's how I'm personally wired.  I'm fully aware of how ridiculous it is to assume a D/s relationship on any level with an online stranger, and that is why I avoid situations that are likely to inappropriately trigger my wiring. 

In effect, when someone overtly makes gestures of submission to me, my instincts tell me that this person is a member of my pack and I am their pack alpha.  I owe them leadership and protection in return for their submission.  Is this an appropriate or reasonable expectation?  Hell no.  In fact it's completely unreasonable and irrational.  It's also what happens to be more or less hardwired into my head, so I simply try to avoid pushing those buttons unless I'm in a situation where it's actually appropriate and reasonable for me to have those feelings. 

If they respond that their dominant has instructed them to address all other dominants in some special manner, I ask that they heretofore consider me a non BDSM person, and treat me in the same manner that they are instructed to treat librarians, postal clerks, distant relatives at family reunions, etc.   I am not a prop for other dominants to use in their scenes, thanks.  Now if a dominant actually asks my consent to be addressed in this manner in order to help keep their submissive under discipline, I don't mind being a good sport and saying yes.  The other dominant is responsible for them, not me.  But my consent has to be asked first.


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As a sub, that's what I always did; and I considered it an act of respect.  Besides, shouldn't one "play the part" (not that it's playing) that they're looking to fill?  Would that earn them a Block/Ignore from you?  This is the first I've heard of this attitude.


Given that my profile here states *very* clearly that I only wish to have contact with people who are willing to talk like a normal adult human being and start out by making friends rather than jumping right on the D/s bandwagon, I would hope that a potential submissive as well as a potential friend would actually be interested in respecting my wishes and preferences.  If he isn't, there's not too much point in talking to him anyway. 

So yeah, anyone who either doesn't read the profile, doesn't care what I'm looking for, or who has no interest in talking to me like a normal human being generally earns an ignore/block.   I don't expect anyone to be automatically psychic and to know my preferences well enough to respect them if I have not clearly communicated them.  If I were to go somewhere online where I could be contacted by means other than reading my profile here (which is unlikely), I would take the time to explain politely that I preferred not to have any D/s interactions on any level, and to ask anyone wishing to talk to me to do so on a friendly basis only.   Once my lack of consent has been clearly communicated, and it's violated anyway, that's when I start blocking/ignoring people. 

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I'm sure there are plenty Dommes out there, who expect this.  It could be really confusing for a sub who's trying to "do it right", but every time he makes an adjustment to his approach, someone gets offended, or worse, he just gets "tossed-out" and never gets a response or any feedback ('cause we all know how many "apps" a woman has to go through).


I think that everyone has individual preferences, and it isn't possible to please everyone, or to automatically know what any given person's preferences are.  I think it's unreasonable for anyone to get horribly upset or to carry on if you don't happen to be psychic and if you happen to address them in a manner other than what they prefer, with all good intentions on your part, because you simply had no way of knowing.

Now if I clearly and courteously communicate my preferences to another person, and this person decides that acting out for their personal kinky gratification is more important than paying attention to the limits of my comfort and consent, that's wankerish behavior and deserves an ignore.




juliaoceania -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 9:38:39 PM)

Who says it is a rule in chat?... It is a rule that I do not follow...smiles... I do not see this as a rule.

On Edit I cap people's names as they have them capped in their screen nic usually, just as I would cap a person's real name. I do try to be polite. I do not refer to total strangers as Sir this and Lord that.... they are not my Sir or Lord and I am not into internet cyber games... others can do as they wish with all of this Y/you W/we stuff, and I understand why they do it, but I feel as though I am trying to prove my submissiveness with caps to people I will most likely never meet gives me a headache and does nothing for my personal growth.




LadyHugs -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 9:49:33 PM)

Dear MissyRane, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
For me, I look at how the person has their name set up.  I often see dominant names in lower case so, what it seems to me; is that they are setting the tone and how to spell their screen name.
 
That said, I really do attempt to maintain the same screen name appearance.  I'm sure they would edit it if it was wrong. 
 
In a neutral conversation though, I would address in capital letters any dominant and submissives I would again go to the screen name for a reference.
 
My personal feeling would be going back to proper use of the capital letterings and for screen names also.  Besides, my spell checker goes bonkers when I don't capitalize a name.  However, so many slaves and submissives have asked to keep them in a lower case.  Pre-computers, I never had such issues.  However, I don't get upset with anybody lower case my screen name.  I am who I am.
 
Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs
 
 
 
 




littlemissub -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 9:57:58 PM)

MissyRane,

I also had the same question when i first came here, along with a few others as far as protocol goes.  As per my mentor, gloryussub, I was told to simply type out the Dom/Domme's name the way they themselves typed it until they tell you otherwise.  Some people shorten or abbreviate the names of people they know but I tend not to until I am given permission byt the owner of the name.

Another little FYI, I also questioned the use of the titles Maam and Sir when referring to certain Dom/Domme's.  Some people would call a Dom/Domme by those titles and others wouldn't, so I didn't until I later questioned glory about it.  The way she directed me was, those titles are a symbol of you showing respect.  You use them with names once you are personally familiar with that particular Dom/Domme and have built up a rapore (excuse the spelling) or relationship with them.

To be on the safe side, I would just stick to how the person typed their own name until you know for sure.

Remember, you can always ask the person how they prefer to be confronted or addressed.

Best of luck




LRODANDMASTER -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 10:03:57 PM)

WHEN THEY DO'NT REFER TO ME AS LRODNADMASTER I MEAN WITH LIKE ALL CAPS I GET VERY IRRITATING AND EVEN CONSDIER DUMPING THEM




juliaoceania -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 10:08:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LRODANDMASTER

WHEN THEY DO'NT REFER TO ME AS LRODNADMASTER I MEAN WITH LIKE ALL CAPS I GET VERY IRRITATING AND EVEN CONSDIER DUMPING THEM


Is this pronounced Doo mass or du maz




Lordandmaster -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 10:09:38 PM)

You've never heard of Alexander Dumass?




xxmstrchasxx -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 10:10:39 PM)

I agree with IronBear, my sub and I both cap Dominant's name out of respect.

She will also call them Sir, once she gets familiar with them and see they deserve the respect.

I guess it comes from the old school ways.




Wolfie648 -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 10:59:06 PM)

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kc692 -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 11:04:04 PM)

As you can tell by my nick here, I do not think caps make the dom/me.  When I am in irc, and have my regular nick up, I am capped but that is my proper name, and although does not matter to me, it is common understanding that most of the dominants have capped nicks, submissives don't.  There are some occasions I change my nick for one reason or another, and it may be capped or not.  If someone in the room addresses me and my nick is not capped it is not a problem to me. I will be the dominant person I am, whether my nick is capped or not.   




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 11:21:05 PM)

I've chat with people who've inadvertently capitalized theirs and not mine, to which I call their attention.
The truth is, this is a pet peeve of mine when chatting; I can overlook many things, but get a little annoyed when people type my name (which is fairly simple) wrong, or don't capitalize the first letter of my name.  I will usually capitalize all names when writing/chatting, unless we've become familiar and he expresses feeling better if I don't capitalize his.    M




Wolfie648 -> RE: Caps..not caps.. (5/24/2006 11:25:57 PM)

"Clarification?    Would it offend you (and see, my instinct was to cap right there), if a sub were to approach you with good grammar and manners, but also did the capping thing?  Would you at least inform them of your preference?

As a sub, that's what I always did; and I considered it an act of respect.  Besides, shouldn't one "play the part" (not that it's playing) that they're looking to fill?  Would that earn them a Block/Ignore from you?  This is the first I've heard of this attitude.

C) I'm sure there are plenty Dommes out there, who expect this.  It could be really confusing for a sub who's trying to "do it right", but every time he makes an adjustment to his approach, someone gets offended, or worse, he just gets "tossed-out" and never gets a response or any feedback ('cause we all know how many "apps" a woman has to go through). "

a) would it offend me - good grammar and manners NO (err oops I capped that). Absolutely I would inform them.

b) caps vs. no caps depends in the forum to those that a) feel they need to present themselves to the general populance as (s)ubmissive in general or those that feel that they should present themselves as (P)eople as submissives to a person(s). Then there are those that are (D)om/me that feel that every (S/s)ubmissive is to be spoken to as such regardless of (O)/ownership - the (S/s)ub (O/o)wned slave then usually sets the other party straight.

It's just best to assume that what you do not own you should respect until they allow you otherwise and then well we all know what to do from there. mmm I guess that's just my opinion. Eh from a (M/m)ale (D/d)om's perspective. 

C) what you learn from _A_ dominant will _Not_ be the same as the next dominant female or otherwise.

Confusing? Welcome to humanity.

Make sense out of it one person at a time.

D (owner of j).




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