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RE: jealousy - 5/25/2006 12:05:25 PM   
candystripper


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In your other post you mentioned that you're terrified of being alone, you've been crying everyday for the past two weeks while your girlfriend has been away and, at 22, you were scared because the landlord was out of the house and you were going to have to be there alone for the night.

Hate to say it- but you really ARE too dependent and insecure when it comes to yourself and relationships right now.

Do you have any idea why you are like this?  What past issues brought this on? 

For now, just work on the little things.  Tell your girlfriend your feelings AND tell her that you know that they are completely irrational.  Remind yourself that you ARE still alive and typing after two weeks alone, that you DID spend a night by yourself and you're ok now.  Work on small goals of independent accomplishment.

The more secure you get with yourself, the less insecure you will get of perceived threats.

LuckyAlbatross


i have a girlfriend -- my former law professor who is now teaching at Vanderbilt University -- who was raised in Manhattan and who suffered terrible fears at night due to the lack of street noise in her new neighborhood in my state.
 
i myself am a city girl, and find the sound of crickets positively terrifying.
 
Finally, this habit you have of attempting to provide therapy via these boards could be a dangerous and is an annoying habit.  i have never forgotten our very first go-round, in which you "diagnoised" a poster as bi-polar based upon your alleged perception of her other posts.  As you may recall, ModOne pulled it.
 
i have not read all the Op's posts, but responded based upon what she wrote here in the Op.  i fail to see how else a rational and thoughtful response can be framed, other than by responding to what has been written, not what one infers about a poster's personality deficits garnered by any means of shifting through other posts by the Op.
 
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RE: jealousy - 5/25/2006 12:09:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: candystripper
i have never forgotten our very first go-round, in which you "diagnoised" a poster as bi-polar based upon your alleged perception of her other posts.  As you may recall, ModOne pulled it.

Yup.  And that person and I have remained in private email contact, with said person finally agreeing that they were indeed bi-polar and in need of therapy.

Not sure at this point if they are still in therapy (though they should be).

I'm a big believer in patterns.  Over time, key pieces of information can build up into a much bigger and more dynamic picture of a person than what a single post alone shows.  For the most part, we're very predictable as a species (including me).

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RE: jealousy - 5/25/2006 1:24:30 PM   
Gauge


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i have not read all the Op's posts, but responded based upon what she wrote here in the Op.  i fail to see how else a rational and thoughtful response can be framed, other than by responding to what has been written, not what one infers about a poster's personality deficits garnered by any means of shifting through other posts by the Op.


I totally disagree. The OP has indicated a dependent and needy personality along with obvious insecurities. Any inference that has been drawn into a conclusion is merely based on how this person describes the situation and their feelings. I do not want to brand the OP with psychobabble labels but the tendency toward these traits is fairly obvious.

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 Finally, this habit you have of attempting to provide therapy via these boards could be a dangerous and is an annoying habit. 


If the OP put this problem on these boards they are seeking input from outside, 'disinterested' parties. I fail to see how offering advice to someone that is seeking advice is dangerous and annoying if that is what the person wanted in the first place. LA hasn't prescribed medications that I am aware of, told someone that they are hopeless and should end it all or anything outside of offering an opinion. It is the choice of the person to follow the advice offered if they feel that it is in their best interest to do so.

Basically, anyone posting on the boards seeking advice has put themselves in the situation of asking for opinions. Most everyone on these boards is bright enough to figure out if the advice applies to them or not. 

< Message edited by Gauge -- 5/25/2006 1:26:33 PM >


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RE: jealousy - 5/25/2006 6:55:06 PM   
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Yup.  And that person and I have remained in private email contact, with said person finally agreeing that they were indeed bi-polar and in need of therapy.

LuckyAlbatross


It is a wholesale betrayal of trust to post private infomation given in email or IM on the boards, knowing full well M/many P/pl may know/guess/wonder about whom You are speaking.  Don't play with fire; you might get burnt.
 
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RE: jealousy - 5/25/2006 7:26:24 PM   
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i have no dog in this fight, but as an RN with over 5 years experience in Mental Health Nursing, i must comment on the tendency for people these days to throw around the diagnosis of Bipolar Personality Disorder. i have tended to many a Bipolar on the Mental Health Unit i worked on, and i see this diagnosis thrown around willy-nilly by armchair internet Psychiatrists.
Please, let me stress this point: The only person qualified to make a diagnosis of BPD is a Psychiatrist. A Psychiatrist, unlike a Psychologist, is also an MD, and the on;y person qualified to make a diagnosis. As a Mental Health Nurse, i can make care plans, provide therapy, administer medications, but i absolutely cannot diagnose.Guess what? Neither can any of you, and it becomes dangerous to suggest to a person in need of ANY mental health treatment that they are Bipolar. A person cannot self-diagnosis, either....agreeing that they are Bipolar has no basis in Medicine, either.
That being said, based on my reading of various posts, i see a lack of knowledge of the behavioral criteria necessary to warrant a diagnosis of Bipolar from a Psychiatrist. It seems every fifteenth person imeet these days claims to be Bipolar, or they are diagnosing friends/family/lovers as such with no medical knowledge to back up the claim.
As i mentioned earlier, i am an RN with over 5 years experience working on an inpatient Mental Health Unit, and i NEVER attempt to diagnose anyone at all. If i see someone who appears to have some mental health needs, i suggest that they may want to seek professional help. That's as far as i go, and frankly, i strongly feel that is as far as any advice should go in real life or on the internet.

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RE: jealousy - 5/25/2006 11:20:41 PM   
Gauge


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If i see someone who appears to have some mental health needs, i suggest that they may want to seek professional help. That's as far as i go, and frankly, i strongly feel that is as far as any advice should go in real life or on the internet.


What you say is true but no one has claimed to be anything more than someone giving advice. It is one thing to offer an opinion to someone and encourage them to seek help, it is far different to claim knowledge that is based in a professional genre.

While people might say, 'You sound like you are bipolar' or 'you might suffer from anxiety disorder' this is not a diagnosis and should not be taken as one. People come here for BDSM advice also. Some practices in BDSM can be downright dangerous if not done properly. Does this mean that the people on here should be referring those looking for BDSM advice to a trained professional? Of course it doesn't.

My point is that advice is just that; advice. People can take advice or not take advice. It is their choice. The last time I checked, you cannot walk into a pharmacy and say, 'I'm bipolar and I need lithium,' and they will give it to you. 


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RE: jealousy - 5/26/2006 4:12:15 PM   
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Your girlfriends love for her family- doesnt translate into less love for you. If it were a candy bar- her family ate most of it- when you could have- then understood. But there is plenty of love- there is enuff for everyone. Why not rediscover old friends? Human ties are important.

My friend Jenny- all of her family is dead. I weep for her. I want to share my family with her. My family pooh poohs that idea.

My gram is the last alive from 10 brothers and sisters. I wish I could show you pictures of the last family reuinion. Somehow I knew that was it.

The glass is 1/2 full- not 1/2 empty.

[i never told Jenny my family doesnt want her visiting]

Turbo

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RE: jealousy - 5/26/2006 10:40:33 PM   
candystripper


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quote:

i have no dog in this fight, but as an RN with over 5 years experience in Mental Health Nursing, i must comment on the tendency for people these days to throw around the diagnosis of Bipolar Personality Disorder. i have tended to many a Bipolar on the Mental Health Unit i worked on, and i see this diagnosis thrown around willy-nilly by armchair internet Psychiatrists.
Please, let me stress this point: The only person qualified to make a diagnosis of BPD is a Psychiatrist. A Psychiatrist, unlike a Psychologist, is also an MD, and the on;y person qualified to make a diagnosis. As a Mental Health Nurse, i can make care plans, provide therapy, administer medications, but i absolutely cannot diagnose.Guess what? Neither can any of you, and it becomes dangerous to suggest to a person in need of ANY mental health treatment that they are Bipolar. A person cannot self-diagnosis, either....agreeing that they are Bipolar has no basis in Medicine, either.
That being said, based on my reading of various posts, i see a lack of knowledge of the behavioral criteria necessary to warrant a diagnosis of Bipolar from a Psychiatrist. It seems every fifteenth person imeet these days claims to be Bipolar, or they are diagnosing friends/family/lovers as such with no medical knowledge to back up the claim.
As i mentioned earlier, i am an RN with over 5 years experience working on an inpatient Mental Health Unit, and i NEVER attempt to diagnose anyone at all. If i see someone who appears to have some mental health needs, i suggest that they may want to seek professional help. That's as far as i go, and frankly, i strongly feel that is as far as any advice should go in real life or on the internet.

slavemj


My point exactly, and ty for an excellent post.  Let me add that N/none of U/us knows the other posters merely from becoming acquainted with T/their nick on collarme.  It is wise to bear in mind, when throwing around potentially dangerous/derogatory/flame posts that Y/you never know to whom Y/you are speaking....and that the recipient could be at a vunerable point in T/their lives.  Words can harm.
 
candystripper

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RE: jealousy - 5/26/2006 10:50:09 PM   
candystripper


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What you say is true but no one has claimed to be anything more than someone giving advice.

Gauge


Respectfully Gauge, LA has laid claim to expertise and has "made diagnosises" as well as directing the poster to take certain particular steps in dealing with the "ailment".  <i can pull posts if You do not wish to take my word.>
 
In all fairness, i have not seen LA do this in quite awhile.
 
candystripper

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