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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/20/2011 7:39:54 PM

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All we are saying... is give war a chance

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Obama hails death of Muammar Gaddafi as foreign policy success

President warns other Middle Eastern dictators, particularly Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, that they could be next

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/20/obama-hails-death-gaddafi

We didn`t start the war.Your butt-buddy gadhafi did.

The president finished it and everted a genocide.

I`ll say one thing,it`s a whole hell of a lot better having millions of Muslims cheering the US,rather than declaring jihad on us.

You neo-cons are such sore losers.....hearing world leaders compliment our president just burns you up......

Congratulations, President Obama.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/20/2011 8:08:47 PM

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You know what they say about kitchens and heat, ashjor.

Drudge is running a headline right now, with a large very graphic photo of the deceased former Libyan leader who was executed within an hour or two after being captured alive, linked to the following article mocking the claim of Libyan Democracy.

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Pulled from drain pipe, Gadhafi was shown no mercy

SIRTE, Libya (AP) -- Dragged from hiding in a drainage pipe, a wounded Moammar Gadhafi raised his hands and begged revolutionary fighters: "Don't kill me, my sons." Within an hour, he was dead, but not before jubilant Libyans had vented decades of hatred by pulling the eccentric dictator's hair and parading his bloodied body on the hood of a truck.

The death Thursday of Gadhafi, two months after he was driven from power and into hiding, decisively buries the nearly 42-year regime that had turned the oil-rich country into an international pariah and his own personal fiefdom.

It also thrusts Libya into a new age in which its transitional leaders must overcome deep divisions and rebuild nearly all its institutions from scratch to achieve dreams of democracy.

Let Me see this right,
you want to bring a mass murderer, a dictator how declared war on his people & his people neighbors,
nontheless, declaring war on the US, UK, & the Locarby...
& removing more than 300.000 of palestinian refugee in Lybia to the border of Egypt after 1995...
not to mention killing more than 50.000 Lybian in the repel, calling them Rats?
He was foung in the Sewage for gods sake like A freeking rat
& you want to bring him to Fucking Justice, or Democarcy, or whatever
the man is fucking crazy,
If he was not crazy he would kill himself..... but also he was a fucking Coward......
fuck him May he Rot in hell

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/20/2011 8:41:38 PM

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Yeah,I dont get these cons.

The hundreds of pounds of Libyan Semtex supplied to the IRA alone, should give his republican supporters pause........but noooooooo....

Because it was Obama that took out the terrorist,they`re seething.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/20/2011 8:44:38 PM

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Yep. And now all the Libyan people are going to put down their guns, and the tribal grudges, and sing kumbaya...

Now, as a believer that some crimes deserve the ultimate punishment, I can appreciate the karmic justice of his death coming the way it did. Crippled by wounds, captured, tormented, eventually shot in the head, and then his body dragged through the streets. I think the process, and formal ritual, of trial and review are a better path to the execution, but the circle is complete, either way.

To those who want to gloat, and mock the concerns that our President unilaterally placed the U.S. on a slippery slope, wake the fuck up. This was the easy part, that was supposed to be a matter of "days, not weeks." You think the excitement stops here? Hillary may have popped in for photo op, but the way a splinter faction retired the previous commander of the rebel army tells us a lot about what is likely to happen when the photographers leave the table, and somebody isn't happy with the deal.

Even those of us who rarely agree on anything, can be happy at the death penalty delivered to a highly deserving individual (though a lot of libs are usually opposed to that), but nothing is over.

President Obama could have had Congress on board for this, but for reasons I do not understand, chose personal ownership. Smoke up guys, because this baby is all yours.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/20/2011 9:03:01 PM

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Of course they arent going to be obedient little slaves Rich, no one expects that, its gonna be a damn long journey, no one is pretending otherwise, but at least now its got a chance. You dont need to worry it wasnt americans that were dragging him thru the street....

yawn, this is a repeat of bin laden and al whatis name... a dead terrorist doesnt get much love from anyone that didnt buy into his dogma...
ANYWHERE
dont gloat about gloating, because its not happening.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/20/2011 9:04:53 PM

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nothing is over.

The life of Gaddafi, for example. It is over.
And there are a lot of things which can be logically derived from that, and which are also over. For example: the dange that Gaddafi ever returns to power. This danger is over. I can think about quite more things which are over.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 2:57:14 AM

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President Obama could have had Congress on board for this, but for reasons I do not understand, chose personal ownership. Smoke up guys, because this baby is all yours.

I could be mistaken, but I dont recall Congress wanting to be on board for this.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 7:28:39 AM

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Its odd to see leftists now celebrating the Wests intervention in the internal affairs of a Middle Eastern nation

It's even odder to see you decrying it when you have made numerous posts celebrating the Iraq intervention as a liberation, with more than 4,400 US troops killed and over 30,000 wounded.

Yet, this administration has managed to get rid of a dictator who committed terrorist attacks on Americans without losing a single soldier's life.

Sanity, you are the most amazing hypocrite I have ever seen.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 7:38:59 AM

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I havent been decrying any such thing in this thread... but I have written that it is odd how you fanatically hypocritical leftists are now cheering Obamas out Bushing Bush

Example:

President warns other Middle Eastern dictators, particularly Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, that they could be next

Leftists - WHAT A GUY!!!

Besides wondering where your compass is, one question you should be asking yourself is, has our generations Jimmy Carter just created another Iran?

If this is what their democracy looks like, the Libyan people are in for a very rough ride.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Its odd to see leftists now celebrating the Wests intervention in the internal affairs of a Middle Eastern nation

It's even odder to see you decrying it when you have made numerous posts celebrating the Iraq intervention as a liberation with more than 4,400 US troops killed and over 30,000 wounded.

Yet this administration has managed to get rid of a dictator who committed terrorist attacks on Americans without losing a single soldiers life.

Sanity, you are the most amazing hypocrite I have ever seen.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 7:41:41 AM

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Yep. And now all the Libyan people are going to put down their guns, and the tribal grudges, and sing kumbaya...

Now, as a believer that some crimes deserve the ultimate punishment, I can appreciate the karmic justice of his death coming the way it did. Crippled by wounds, captured, tormented, eventually shot in the head, and then his body dragged through the streets. I think the process, and formal ritual, of trial and review are a better path to the execution, but the circle is complete, either way.

To those who want to gloat, and mock the concerns that our President unilaterally placed the U.S. on a slippery slope, wake the fuck up. This was the easy part, that was supposed to be a matter of "days, not weeks." You think the excitement stops here? Hillary may have popped in for photo op, but the way a splinter faction retired the previous commander of the rebel army tells us a lot about what is likely to happen when the photographers leave the table, and somebody isn't happy with the deal.

Even those of us who rarely agree on anything, can be happy at the death penalty delivered to a highly deserving individual (though a lot of libs are usually opposed to that), but nothing is over.

President Obama could have had Congress on board for this, but for reasons I do not understand, chose personal ownership. Smoke up guys, because this baby is all yours.

Does that mean we can call disaster-Iraq, all your`s and you cons will accept ownership?(hold on,I need to laugh my ass off for a few minutes)

Seems like with the bush '08' meltdown,you`re still denying your Iraq malfeasance.Are you suddenly going to grow a spine and start taking responsibility,rich?

Ownership my ass!....lol

We know neo-cons are hoping for the worst.

Praying for it.

Sad.

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 7:48:29 AM

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"out Bushing Bush"

What does torture,fraud,lying us into war/invasion/military occupation,Plamegate/treason,4000 GI`s needlessly dead,abu ghraib prison have to do with Lybia?

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 7:52:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

All we are saying... is give war a chance

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Obama hails death of Muammar Gaddafi as foreign policy success

President warns other Middle Eastern dictators, particularly Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, that they could be next

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/20/obama-hails-death-gaddafi

We didn`t start the war.Your butt-buddy gadhafi did.

The president finished it and everted a genocide.

I`ll say one thing,it`s a whole hell of a lot better having millions of Muslims cheering the US,rather than declaring jihad on us.

You neo-cons are such sore losers.....hearing world leaders compliment our president just burns you up......

Congratulations, President Obama.

LMAO I have to say that article is BULLSHIT
WHERE did Obama actually mention that Syrians leaders name???? oh thats right , there wasnt a name mentioned!!!!!!!!!! shock, what a lying twat that reporter is, BUT but that he was certain that is who Obama meant
WHAT A FUCKING neocon, of course he can read minds.
DUMBARSE. No wonder weak minds tag onto this shit

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 8:12:57 AM

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"out Bushing Bush"

What does torture,fraud,lying us into war/invasion/military occupation,Plamegate/treason,4000 GI`s needlessly dead,abu ghraib prison have to do with Lybia?

Assassinating foreign leaders as well as American citizens...

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 8:20:15 AM

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"out Bushing Bush"

What does torture,fraud,lying us into war/invasion/military occupation,Plamegate/treason,4000 GI`s needlessly dead,abu ghraib prison have to do with Lybia?

Assassinating foreign leaders as well as American citizens...

Are you an American citizen?

Who would have ever thought we`d see an American, defending a terrorist.

Even worse,defending an al-queda terrorist.

Sad.

Will you come to Vagas and do this in person?

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 8:22:45 AM

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he did it last week too
ODS has him in a manic grip

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 9:21:29 AM

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Now, as a believer that some crimes deserve the ultimate punishment, I can appreciate the karmic justice of his death coming the way it did. Crippled by wounds, captured, tormented, eventually shot in the head, and then his body dragged through the streets. I think the process, and formal ritual, of trial and review are a better path to the execution, but the circle is complete, either way.

It is a savage part of the world full of savages. The scene reminded me of American bodies being dragged through the streets of Mogadishu. Can that part of the world ever join the 21st century and become civilized? Why are some of the oldest civilizations on earth unable to govern themselves with fairness and mercy? Why can’t they coexist with their neighbors? Is it their religion…education…resources…what the hell has caused this.

It is scary to see how such an enlightened part of the world a 1,000 years ago has become the hellhole on earth.

Butch

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 9:29:19 AM

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Hint - the discussion has nothing to do with terrorists, and everything to do with the rule of law, consistency, and learning from Jimmy Carters mistake with Iran.

If we were committed to helping the people of Libya achieve a stable republic I might not object to our interfering there. However, Obamas only goal for the Libya in particular and the Middle East in general seems to be destabilizing it as much as possible

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 9:34:05 AM

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can you see the woods for the trees?

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 9:39:20 AM

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Hint - the discussion has nothing to do with terrorists, and everything to do with the rule of law, consistency, and learning from Jimmy Carters mistake with Iran.

the topic has nothing to do with the rule of law try again

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RE: Gaddafi captured and wounded near Sirte: NTC offici... - 10/21/2011 9:41:06 AM

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What mistakes? Why would we commit to (ostensibly) setting up a puppet government for them, as we did in Iran, as we did in Iraq, as we did in Vietnam, as we have done in Afghanistan?

They will have a government that suits them...

That is what worked in Vietnam, and in Iran (the fact that they are a pain in our ass notwithstanding, it is what those people want)

As we look at Egypt and other countries we are not fucking around in by forcing our forms of the body politic on them, they seem to be doing alright. Problems?, sure...we got some problems ourselves now, don't we?

And as I predicted, after the fight, the cowardly howlers come out of the woodwork with the:

Now, here's what we need to do with them Libyans.......

There isn't any place we have been and forced our way of doing business on a country that went 'stable'.

Khaddafi a cog in the war on terror. He no longer is 'de ri-gear' (I crack myself up, I am that good...). Our intent was not to dictate their government, it was to destroy a terrorist.

Mission Accomplished!!!!

Libya for the Libyans. Egypt for the Egyptians. And; America for the Americans.

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